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I won't start another thread since there is bound to be discussion. SPOILERS..................................................
Arya of Winterfell is so much better than a girl has no name. Jaquen just says do your thing girl. So Jaime just admits to screwing his sister, anybody gonna look at his sons and see the resemblance now. I find it odd we didn't see the Blackfish die. The Hound, The Brotherhood, and Arya. Anybody else think they'll be reunited and it feels so good? One last thing, did Arya plan the whole thing, seemed to have a lot of moving parts.
Arya of Winterfell is so much better than a girl has no name. Jaquen just says do your thing girl. So Jaime just admits to screwing his sister, anybody gonna look at his sons and see the resemblance now. I find it odd we didn't see the Blackfish die. The Hound, The Brotherhood, and Arya. Anybody else think they'll be reunited and it feels so good? One last thing, did Arya plan the whole thing, seemed to have a lot of moving parts.
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I don't think Arya planned on being stabbed a few times and rolling down a flight of stairs.
But I do think she planned on leading the Waif back to that room.
But I do think she planned on leading the Waif back to that room.
So I'm guessing Ramsay finally gets his comeuppance next week? Or does he puss out on Jon's challenge of single combat? Also, weak move by Edmure. I wouldn't have minded seeing him snuffed long ago, but knowing this show, he'll survive until the end.
Cersei is about to go scorched earth. Literally. She had Qyburn see if the Mad King actually had wildfire stored underneath the Red Keep. When Tommen dies, and he will die, she's going to 17ing destroy Kings Landing. When Dany arrives there will be no crown to fight over, allowing her to face the WW's with Jon and the North.
How would the little birds know that wildfire is stored under the Red Keep?
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if Cersei burned the whole continent, but it doesn't logically hold that the rumor is about wildfire.
1) As mentioned, that's not exactly something the little birds would know, nor the type of thing Varys had ever used them for. He used them to watch people. How would a random orphan kid know what wildfire looks like to report back?
2) In S2 they had to make the wildfire to use in the battle. If there had been rumors of the Mad King storing it anywhere, don't you think they would've checked then?
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if Cersei burned the whole continent, but it doesn't logically hold that the rumor is about wildfire.
1) As mentioned, that's not exactly something the little birds would know, nor the type of thing Varys had ever used them for. He used them to watch people. How would a random orphan kid know what wildfire looks like to report back?
2) In S2 they had to make the wildfire to use in the battle. If there had been rumors of the Mad King storing it anywhere, don't you think they would've checked then?
I really hate how the Arya scene ended with Jaquen. That seemed hastily constructed. The parts with the Waif were fine, but the Jaquen scene left me wanting more explanation. Is she now a faceless man or not? A wry smile and a nob from Jaquen is all we got. Very un-Jaquen like IMO.
They also wasted a lot of time with dialog on this episode. The drinking scene in Mereen went on too long. I wonder if they will show the dragons burning the ship or if we will just see them smoldering in the next episode.
Maybe Blackfish was simply told to leave and left unharmed.
They also wasted a lot of time with dialog on this episode. The drinking scene in Mereen went on too long. I wonder if they will show the dragons burning the ship or if we will just see them smoldering in the next episode.
Maybe Blackfish was simply told to leave and left unharmed.
It isn't rumors that the Mad King stored it, it's fact. He placed it all over the city. His last HotK was a pyromancer and he ordered him to burn the city down right before Jamie murdered him. It's a fact that wildfire is hidden everywhere and now Cersei knows where it is.
Blackfish?
He dead.
I was hoping that the Tully's would be allowed to leave and join Sansa's army but looks like they are being marched to a POW camp. I would hate it if Drogon destroyed all of those ships. Dany needs ships. But I guess that's what the Ironborn are for. What's west of Westeros? A good question, is there a continent between Westeros and Essos? Now I want to know as much as Arya.
He dead.
I was hoping that the Tully's would be allowed to leave and join Sansa's army but looks like they are being marched to a POW camp. I would hate it if Drogon destroyed all of those ships. Dany needs ships. But I guess that's what the Ironborn are for. What's west of Westeros? A good question, is there a continent between Westeros and Essos? Now I want to know as much as Arya.
Glad the Arya episode is over. It dragged out way too long for me .I liked the Jamie / Edmure conversation and the Hound story . It seemed to be one of the weaker episodes to me.
Right, I get that. My question is: How do the little birds confirm that rumor when no one else could?
Eh, they normally make sure things logically flow, even if that logic at times is "cause magic."
I've always wondered that. Is the maps we see just a flat representation of a round world? Or does it extend far beyond what we see?
We know there's at least another continent Sothoryos below Essos, but I don't think Arya is actually going west of Westeros. I think she intends to get back to Winterfell (since she is completely unaware that the Boltons currently have it).
I also don't think another continent would be brought into play all of a sudden.
I also don't think another continent would be brought into play all of a sudden.
The Targaryens' eventual version of the Red Keep is filled with secret passageways that go all throughout the city. These passageways are long forgotten for the most part. Varys knows them better than anyone living and that point is driven home even on the show. He uses them in order to communicate with the little birds and keep them out of sight. It would make sense that these passageways hold the secret stores of wildfire.
It does hold logically. If you have been paying close attention. She is desperate. Surrounded by enemies. Defeated. She's not long for the world regardless -- but she's not going out without a tremendous bang.
The secret/hidden passageways the little birds use are the key.
That was from the official and well-known stores of the crown. That wildfire would be off limits to Cersei at this point. It's not what they are talking about.
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That discussion was only had over running from beyond the Waif's grasp and the possibility of being safe with her still alive. Obviously not necessary at this point.
Arya was at the Red Wedding let's remember. She would know Winterfell is a ruin. We don't know if she knows the Boltons occupy/rebuilt it or not. She's heading back to the Riverlands to check names off her list with a brand new bag of tricks. I expect those directly responsible for the Red Wedding to be prettymuch totally annihilated by the end of this season. By which time she will hear that Sansa and Jon have retaken the castle.
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Bran will go south of the wall and it will go tumbling down. Then the WW will follow them south.
The worst of the series? It wasn't that bad. I don't think it was even the worst of this season. The only thing I didn't like was Mereen. Mereen has been horrible all season, except for the Kinvara scene.
The show runners struggle with this without the grrm blueprint. And the blueprint hasn't been perfect over the last two books either. A lot of "must hit plot point" scenarios and bending of inflexible characters to hit it. I didn't think last night was even close to the worst, but it was maddening. Neither of these Mark Milar directed episodes made a lot of sense nor did they flow well.
It's ok though. We get Miguel Sapochnik for two now. And I have very high expectations for them.
It's ok though. We get Miguel Sapochnik for two now. And I have very high expectations for them.
Like 2 seasons too long. No idea they didn't sit her like they did Bran for a season, come back with a quick montage, kill the Waif, then head on to Westeros to team up with her Nymeria wolf pack and kill all the enemies in the riverlands by shear numbers of wolves. Nymeria has something like 2000 wolves with her.
She needs to bring her army with her, she can't take Westros with just her and 3 dragons
BASTARD BOWL, GET HYPE!!! The only thing better than Jon taking Ramsay's head next week would be if Ramsay were somehow defeated and delivered to Theon Greyjoy as his prisoner. Won't happen, but I can dream.
I think Roose's last advice for Ramsey will prove prophetic, but I think it will be an episode 10 thing...
Would make him the most hated character in the history of television. The internet would implode. There may actually be riots. I'm being serious, I think.
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