We bid against ourselves for his services. He wasn’t on anyone’s radar when we signed him this last time. Guy was at home waiting for calls.
OT: Franklin Canned!!!
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Where he was an awful DC and had the worst statistical defense in OSU with Chase Young and Bosa on the team . Subsequently fired
Impossible for the criminal to go back to the Scene of the crime. They will never take him. Way too many skeletons will be let out of the closet .
That’s not why. It’s because he‘s a losing coach.
He wasn't fired by Ohio State. If people think Ohio State wouldn't have been title contenders with Schiano at defensive coordinator for the last 7 years, they are nuts.
No they're not. It means they're familiar with him as a coach and his extraordinary lack of flexibility or ability to scheme.
I’d agree with that, never did have or develop that top notch qb.
Actually he was. Sure, they would have been contenders either way but his D was poor by their standards and when championships are the goal they saw fit to replace him…just like PSU did with JF today.
OSU expected more than he delivered.
Told my psu friend this last week, if he developed a qb, they’d have a national championship or two
Grifter Greg. Whether it was officially a firing or not retaining with a new contract, they showed him the door. His D was subpar and they felt they needed better to chase a championship.
And I believe he was replaced by hafley for a season from what I remember and the defense improved….i could be wrong here
How many QBs did the QB himself, Jim Harbaugh, "develop" at his time at Michigan--one?
Sean Clifford does not count for Franklin?
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Very true. He had all the advantages in the world to make PSU a national champion. He just isn't a good coach.
I was referring to Ash. Regarding Greg, he was supposedly taking the Patriots DC job and then backed out at the last second. Who knows what it actually true?
Frost's last loss was actually to Georgia Southern, but his last B1G loss was to Northwestern.
BREAKING: James Franklin will make over 20 THOUSAND DOLLARS PER DAY from Penn State for the next six years.
• Per minute: $15
• Per hour: $913
• Per day: $21,917
• Per week: $153,846
• Per month: $666,666
The greatest gig in the world. Getting fired as a head coach.
• Per minute: $15
• Per hour: $913
• Per day: $21,917
• Per week: $153,846
• Per month: $666,666
The greatest gig in the world. Getting fired as a head coach.
Should we go after your coach? At least he got air conditioning in his air conditioning named stadium...
JJ McCarthy would probably be the only one I’d say for Harbaugh in his Michigan stint.
I’m thinking more on the level of say like Tua, Bryce Young, CJ Stroud, etc…with regards to PSU never having someone like that.
McSorley was tough hard nose grinder but he didn’t have the talent and passing ability like the guys I mentioned.
Sure looks like an egregious waste of money. Playoffs last year, 7 New Year Day Bowl games, blah, blah, and that's not good enough for those inbreds? Sure has a Bo Pelini/Nebraska feel to it. Expectations for the new guy will be sky high. Would love to see them strike out on their top choices, end taking someone like Fran Brown, and watch the Fruit crying in misery. Either way doesn't effect Rutgers, because PSU will always outspend RU for players, no matter who is there coach. Equal chance they end up with someone worse. Their initial mistake was dishing out an undeserved long term contract to him -- much like Hobbs' extension of Schiano.
I think only 4 will be considered: Matt Rhule, Cignetti, Saban or Myers
Do t think they would even consider him for DC
Man why would a coach agree to that when the dumb schools are will to give them a bag and also an even greater buyout bag. It's not the coaches fault if the schools are dumb.
After the defense regressed under GS, no way would he have still been there
In that same alternative universe he would be a winning HC here and then maybe they would have begged him. I see now we have graduated from the word "if" when it comes to GS and are now using "alternative u inverse."
That's the point. The schools should band together and stop being dumb with these contracts. But schools are weak, full of weak lemmings in leadership positions without spines.
Rutgers doesn't have any of those? Rutgers being one of the largest schools in the country hasn't produced and few Billionaires or Centi-millionaires? I cannot believe that. If there are wealthy Rutgers grands who have made bank but do not give to the school or athletic programs is on the school. Of course an active self motivated Billionaire is best for this type of situation the school and the rank and file fans need to step up more as well.
I have been seeing this discussion about Rutgers football come up every year for the better part of two decades. Why do you think Rutgers has such a tough time getting the fans and a few of the alum "whales" to contribute to the program? Rutgers has a huge alumni base and at least some of them had to have become billionaires or centi millionaires. Why can't Rutgers get the same loyalty from its wealthy alumni and even the rank and file fans? these questions have always perplexed me about Rutgers.
That's exactly who I was thinking of: I was going to post that Nebraska says: "Hold my beer!" They fired Frank Solich in 2003 after going 58-19 only to tank with Bill Callahan for the next 4 years. They then went with Pelini, but fired him in 2014 after a 9-3 season and an overall record of 67-27. They've come nowhere close to expectations since, and they're now on their 3rd head coach since his firing.
There were other issues with Pelini, similar to Mark Mangino at Kansas. Love this on Mangino's Wiki page;
"The Jayhawks regressed significantly in 2009, falling to 5–7. After a prolonged period of negotiations, the university and Mangino's attorneys agreed on a buyout amount that was large enough to secure his quiet resignation in December 2009.[30] Kansas would not win more than three games in a season following Mangino's departure until their 2022 season 13 years later."
While Mangino's record was not as impressive as Pelini's at Nebraska, Kansas was a dumpster fire before Mangino took the job. His progress shows an upward trajectory similar to Schiano 2.0. So, in 2026, we can expect to be 12-1!!!!
Speaking of 2.0's, not going so well for Rich Rod at WVU so far. . . . .
Depends how you define "big time football"
I think some of our fans define it as being in the top 10 every year. That's unlikely.
I'd define it as being in the middle of the B1G most years, at the bottom or top third here and there. That is likely.
Schiano's problem as DC at OSU was personel. These coddled 4-5 star athletes don't want to be told to play an assignment D.. They have relied on superior athleticism to dominate their entire lives in football. Add in the bad rep GS got at Tampa Bay because the players and teh media covering them did not want to be controlled in any way and you get teh picture. All these future NFLers on D did not want to be told how to play. This is not a guess.. there are interviews with them during that time in which the DBs said as much.
There's a reason why NFL coaches like GS coached Rutgers players. They are not these "I know better than the coach" guys.
BTW.. I am curious to see what Franklin' final settlement will be. I have suspected that a great guy like him has skeletons and I would not be shocked if there is an accommodation.
Penn State will be fine. You don't make this move without the money.. in fact, you make this move to keep the money flowing. And Franklin? He was a figurehead. He was failing early on with teh coaches he selected.. judged on the hotness of their wives, as he said. Then teh Penn State machine selected his assistants for him and all returned to normal. But htey couldn't fire this guy right?
I think this was a great opportunity for them to finally get rid of him in a justifiable way. Franklin has been an *** all along. I couldn't believe they hired him after their own scandal with him reigning over Vandy's rape scandal. Remember, there was a video of an obvious rape situation going around the locker room and Franklin had a team meeting excoriating the team over this video saying it disgusted him. Then later he testified that he had not seen this video and did not know what was on it.. essentially saying he lied to his team but also justifying as to why he did not contact police.
Good riddance for PSU and the Big Ten.
And having lost to a team who fired their head coach and OC midseason (UCLA) had to help.
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Available:
Bo Pelini
Mark Mangino
Mel Tucker
All coaches with a history of winning.
You are really reaching with your post one day after the guy was fired. Give it time. And besides, Penn State is in a different universe of college football than Rutgers.