OT: Ewing or Melo in NBA

Plum Street

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I am gonna with Miller. He had more monster performances. More late game heroics . His 8 points in 8 seconds against the Knicks is lore.
His pacers team in 1998 gave the Jordan-pippen-Rodman dynasty the toughest time of any opponent.
Ewing had a better supporting cast. The 1999? Knicks made a finals run without Ewing. No way was a pacers team without miller doing anything in the playoffs
The pacers -Knicks rivalry back then was fun. “See you Sunday “
 

bitnez

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It’s close but I think people undervalue Ewing’s game. Go back and look at some of his performances. In big clutch games he actually played really well. Everyone remembers the missed finger roll in game 7 (1995) but he had like 29 pts and 15 rbs in that game. The prior year I think he had a 20/20 game against Indiana in a must win situation.
 

Yeah Baby

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I am gonna with Miller. He had more monster performances. More late game heroics . His 8 points in 8 seconds against the Knicks is lore.
His pacers team in 1998 gave the Jordan-pippen-Rodman dynasty the toughest time of any opponent.
Ewing had a better supporting cast. The 1999? Knicks made a finals run without Ewing. No way was a pacers team without miller doing anything in the playoffs
The pacers -Knicks rivalry back then was fun. “See you Sunday “
The team that made it to the finals was a far different team than the one Ewing played with in his prime. That was mainly Sprewell, Houston, Larry Johnson, Kurt Thomas and Camby as opposed to Oakley, Mason and John Starks. Agree with some of your comments on Miller but the Knicks took Jordan to the wire a few times with Ewing and crew. Charles Smith had that one sequence where he had 4 putback’s at the end. He got fouled on all 4 of them. I think every Ewing v Jordan series came down the the wire but the GOAT won each time. Ewing v Olajuwon was also a series the Knicks had in the bag but in any case it went down to the wire in the finals. Knicks should have won game 6 let alone could have won game 7.

I’m biased so I’ll go with Ewing but Miller is right up there.
 

Plum Street

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The team that made it to the finals was a far different team than the one Ewing played with in his prime. That was mainly Sprewell, Houston, Larry Johnson, Kurt Thomas and Camby as opposed to Oakley, Mason and John Starks. Agree with some of your comments on Miller but the Knicks took Jordan to the wire a few times with Ewing and crew. Charles Smith had that one sequence where he had 4 putback’s at the end. He got fouled on all 4 of them. I think every Ewing v Jordan series came down the the wire but the GOAT won each time. Ewing v Olajuwon was also a series the Knicks had in the bag but in any case it went down to the wire in the finals. Knicks should have won game 6 let alone could have won game 7.

I’m biased so I’ll go with Ewing but Miller is right up there.
Yes . I think it’s probably a draw , but if I had to choose one I would pick Miller .
Knicks had a window in 94 and 95 to win the title without threat from Jordan and came up short . Should have won game 6 in houston and then John starks with the performance for the record books game 7 .
 
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NickRU714

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Check the stats and the awards. It's Ewing, and it's not close, especially if you think defense is part of being an NBA player.

The main problem with evaluating Reggie Miller's stats historically is how impacted he was by the time he played.
Offensive philosophy was severely "conservative".

His highest 3pt attempts were game was 6.6 in 96-97 (his only season with over 6 3pt attempts per game..
His career average was 4.7 per game despite being over a 40% shooter most years.
In 20-21, he would be 26th with 6.6 3pt attempts per game.

Playing in a modern offense, Miller would been closer to 30ppg for a bunch of seasons.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/millere01.html
 

PatrickRU92

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Ewing was BY FAR a better pro. Anthony was one of those guys who was very good but not good enough to carry a team.
 

Yeah Baby

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Yes . I think it’s probably a draw , but if I had to choose one I would pick Miller .
Knicks had a window in 94 and 95 to win the title without threat from Jordan and came up short . Should have won game 6 in houston and then John starks with the performance for the record books game 7 .
Should we start our own thread lol. Ewing came closer and got there more times than Reggie. Reggie was a guy we loved to hate back then but I like him now. Great shooter and a tough competitor. Like Ewing he had Jordan in his way but I think for less years. I thinks he’s younger.

Reggie was. 5x all star and Ewing was 11x. I’m all in with Ewing based on total career. Reggie was a Knick killer along with Jordan. Bastad.
 

Plum Street

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Should we start our own thread lol. Ewing came closer and got there more times than Reggie. Reggie was a guy we loved to hate back then but I like him now. Great shooter and a tough competitor. Like Ewing he had Jordan in his way but I think for less years. I thinks he’s younger.
Ewing only got closer because Jordan was playing baseball in 1994 . The pacers-bulls series was the closest series the bulls Rodman teams had . Even Jordan said it . Miller was 3 years younger . He lost to the Shaq-Kobe dynasty team in the finals . The Knicks lost to the rockets, although a good team not as great as the Lakers or bulls. Rockets took advantage of the 1994-1995 window.
Like I said , it’s probably a draw.
 

RUPete

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LOL I apologize the debate was Ewing or CARMELO! Sorry guys!
It was pretty clear- not sure why Miller came into it. Anyway, Ewing over Melo. In addition to the scoring, more defense, rebounding and more postseason success tip the scales.
 
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Yeah Baby

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Melo was a 10x all star. He is probably a better argument than Reggie because he did it all. He could handle, shoot, rebound and play at least decent D. Ewing was better but Melo was definitely a great player.
 
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OldManRiver1

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"Number 33....Patrick....EWING!!!!!

 

RuSnp

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Put aside your hatred for either school and they’re play in college, this is about the NBA. Who was better as a professional?

I’m 100% Ewing.
How about this question. Would Ewing/Melo together in their primes have beaten Jordan's Bulls? I would say no but Ewing never had much of a supporting cast - hell Knicks fans got excited when Doc Rivers and Rolando Blackman (way past their primes) were acquired.
 

Scangg

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How about this question. Would Ewing/Melo together in their primes have beaten Jordan's Bulls? I would say no but Ewing never had much of a supporting cast - hell Knicks fans got excited when Doc Rivers and Rolando Blackman (way past their primes) were acquired.
Ewing never had a good supporting cast. Not much offense around him except a streaky Starks. He never had his Pippen.
 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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The team that made it to the finals was a far different team than the one Ewing played with in his prime. That was mainly Sprewell, Houston, Larry Johnson, Kurt Thomas and Camby as opposed to Oakley, Mason and John Starks. Agree with some of your comments on Miller but the Knicks took Jordan to the wire a few times with Ewing and crew. Charles Smith had that one sequence where he had 4 putback’s at the end. He got fouled on all 4 of them. I think every Ewing v Jordan series came down the the wire but the GOAT won each time. Ewing v Olajuwon was also a series the Knicks had in the bag but in any case it went down to the wire in the finals. Knicks should have won game 6 let alone could have won game 7.

I’m biased so I’ll go with Ewing but Miller is right up there.
Charles Smith missed those 4 putbacks because he was soft. Ewing was unfairly criticized during his NBA career for not winning a championship, but his supporting casts were not nearly at the level of most other great centers.
 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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Ewing never had a good supporting cast. Not much offense around him except a streaky Starks. He never had his Pippen.
Few centers have won championships without strong supporting casts. Jabbar has 6 rings, but never won a championship without either Oscar Robertson or Magic Johnson as his point guard. He was arguably the best player in the NBA in the period after Oscar and before Magic, but never sniffed the NBA Finals. Ewing's Knick teammates were not nearly on that level.
 

AreYouNUTS

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How about this question. Would Ewing/Melo together in their primes have beaten Jordan's Bulls? I would say no but Ewing never had much of a supporting cast - hell Knicks fans got excited when Doc Rivers and Rolando Blackman (way past their primes) were acquired.

See I even said to my buddy that with Melo they probably win two titles, which would’ve been fantastic,But all they did was fill his argument that Melo was the better player. I kept laughing I thought he was gonna punch me.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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How about this question. Would Ewing/Melo together in their primes have beaten Jordan's Bulls? I would say no but Ewing never had much of a supporting cast - hell Knicks fans got excited when Doc Rivers and Rolando Blackman (way past their primes) were acquired.
I say no because the refs knew the NBA was the michael jordan show. he'd routinely pull guys or pull arms off the ball on defense then poke it away and get his "steal"... great player but the NBA helped him become the GOAT
 
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