OT: Evicting a tenant in NJ - process?

Plum Street

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I just play a lawyer in football msg boards 😀. If there is no lease, why is this person a tenant? I do see a lot of commercial tenants going with licensing agreements instead of leases for shorter term stuff.
Heard a story a few years back . A friend of a friend was trying to get his lazy adult millennial son out of the house. So there was no lease or landlord-tenant relationship . The guy had to file in regular civil court and not landlord tenant special court from what I remember . It was an ejection. I don’t know whatever happened legally , but the kid moved out.
 

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The law in NJ is actually really straight forward. The problem for LLs in NJ is just that many of them have no idea what they're doing. I used to watch like clockwork the LLCs that wouldn't retain attorneys thrown out every session. It was pretty hilarious.

Again, we are a professional property management company and I won't touch a notice to cease or notice to quit myself. Hire an attorney who knows to dot ever I and cross every t. I won't even take a client on who wants to do that themselves, ends in disaster too much.

We use the same attorney firm that handles Trump family properties in NJ.
 
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Again, we are a professional property management company and I won't touch a notice to cease or notice to quit myself. Hire an attorney who knows to dot ever I and cross every t. I won't even take a client on who wants to do that themselves, ends in disaster too much.

We use the same attorney firm that handles Trump family properties in NJ.
Same attorney when Trump defaults or one of their tenant defaults?
 

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NJ is a tenant’s rights state. It’s a very long process to evict a tenant. I had a tenant stop paying rent and it took 7-8 months do finally get them out of the property (and that required the sheriff escorting them out). Go to your county court house and begin the process ASAP. You don’t need a lawyer (and paying one just adds to your bills).
So like an idiot I rented a house out to a friend. He lost his job during Covid and he started of being late on rent. Then started paying 0. He quickly became an *** and used the rent moratorium as an excuse and that he would pay in full soon. He was expecting an inheritance. For months, I felt bad and let things slide. It’s to the point he owes about $15k and I have no hope of recovering it. I’ve asked him to leave and he basically says no. I’ve tried googling how to evict him but literally every article is about a tenants rights. I just want him out. Taking him to court after to garnish wages is a plus, but again, just want him out. Any advice or pointing me in the right direction is appreciated.
Good luck. Took the landlord a full year (and a couple of sherriffs) of unpaid rent to get the dirt bag and his girlfriend out from the house across the street from me.
 
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Curious question, Are seasonal rentals under a separate type of law? I could see summer or winter tenants at the shore overstaying their lease but never hear of anything as such. I guess hotel stays are different rules as well. Thanks
 

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Curious question, Are seasonal rentals under a separate type of law? I could see summer or winter tenants at the shore overstaying their lease but never hear of anything as such. I guess hotel stays are different rules as well. Thanks
If fully furnished and everyday items such as furniture, kitchen utensils and linens are provided they fall under hotel occupation laws in NJ. "Tenants" can be shown the door at any instant, for any reason. A longer lease can sometimes override this but most using these laws don't write the paper in favor of the "temporary resident"
 

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If fully furnished and everyday items such as furniture, kitchen utensils and linens are provided they fall under hotel occupation laws in NJ. "Tenants" can be shown the door at any instant, for any reason. A longer lease can sometimes override this but most using these laws don't write the paper in favor of the "temporary resident"
There goes my plan of squatting in an oceanfront residence
 
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Why am I not surprised that you are a cheerleader for asshats that try to work the system for rent-free housing.

I am a cheerleader for knowing the law, following the law, obeying the law.

I guess you could say I'm for law and order.

I am not surprised you are opposed.
 

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I am a cheerleader for knowing the law, following the law, obeying the law.

I guess you could say I'm for law and order.

I am not surprised you are opposed.
No. I guess I could say you are a cheerleader for squatters. I am for following the law. That said there is something wrong with the law if it takes 6 months to a year to get someone out of your house if they refuse to pay rent, damage the property, sell drugs from your residence, etc.
 
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No. I guess I could say you are a cheerleader for squatters. I am for following the law. That said there is something wrong with the law if it takes 6 months to a year to get someone out of your house if they refuse to pay rent, damage the property, sell drugs from your residence, etc.

That's not what the law allows. It's just what happens with incompetent landlords.

Am I supposed to feel sorry for people who invest hundreds of thousands without paying attention to what the law is? Sounds like facts don't care about snowflake feelings, am I right?
 
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No. I guess I could say you are a cheerleader for squatters. I am for following the law. That said there is something wrong with the law if it takes 6 months to a year to get someone out of your house if they refuse to pay rent, damage the property, sell drugs from your residence, etc.
You are not really being fair here and just trying to paint the other guy as something he may or may not be. I agree with you on your point that there is something wrong with the law if it takes 6 months to a year to get someone out of your house if if you refuse to pay rent. The other examples you list would more likely than not get a tenant evicted.
 

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I am a cheerleader for knowing the law, following the law, obeying the law.

I guess you could say I'm for law and order.

I am not surprised you are opposed.

Lol except when it comes to BLM protests. You're not fooling anyone.
 

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You are not really being fair here and just trying to paint the other guy as something he may or may not be. I agree with you on your point that there is something wrong with the law if it takes 6 months to a year to get someone out of your house if if you refuse to pay rent. The other examples you list would more likely than not get a tenant evicted.
I’m using examples being discussed in this thread


Being married to a lawyer, I know lawyers tend to say get a lawyer even if not required.

some more context. No formal lease is in place. Which again is my fault. Guy is pretty much squatting now.

additionally, last year around this time, he was arrested at the house for selling weed. So between that and the lack of rent, I’m sure I have a solid case.

Good luck. I have a friend going thru this in this Jersey hell hole

They rented out grandma’s house and now cannot rid themselves of these people after over a year of non payment and destruction by the residents to boot. It’s actually insane. They broke into the detached garage which was off limits to boot. Courts and lawyers are a joke and absolute scum of the earth.
Back in the day this problem could have been resolved a lot more quickly and physically.

Not’s contribution was to say you should have known property laws better than these squatters and it’s your own fault.
 
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So like an idiot I rented a house out to a friend. He lost his job during Covid and he started of being late on rent. Then started paying 0. He quickly became an *** and used the rent moratorium as an excuse and that he would pay in full soon. He was expecting an inheritance. For months, I felt bad and let things slide. It’s to the point he owes about $15k and I have no hope of recovering it. I’ve asked him to leave and he basically says no. I’ve tried googling how to evict him but literally every article is about a tenants rights. I just want him out. Taking him to court after to garnish wages is a plus, but again, just want him out. Any advice or pointing me in the right direction is appreciated.
A lot of good information here, especially in the video. But this makes clear it is important to hire an attorney, like @RUskoolie advised.

"New Jersey acted aggressively to protect low- and middle-income tenants who missed rent payments during the COVID-19 pandemic. Under special pandemic rules, they would not be evicted if they took two steps: applied for rental assistance and filled out a short form certifying the family’s income."


 
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I’m using examples being discussed in this thread






Not’s contribution was to say you should have known property laws better than these squatters and it’s your own fault.

You mean you should have a contract?

He could have learned that watching Judge Judy. I didn't say he had to though. He just now has to hire someone with an attorney.
 

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Why is it that in NJ if you don't pay your rent you still get to stay in the house/apartment? No pay, no stay should be a national law.
Agreed. But its to score cheap political points. Its that simple.

Rent control is racist tbh. Because what it does is encourage those people to never leave that housing unit because monthly nut is so low and therefore they never buy which furthermore means they never build wealth
 
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Ask for the property to be delivered vacant.
It is 100% vacant. Does not matter. Yea, thats how insane the rent control laws are. Registered legal rents are between 900-1250. Market rents are $3200-3400 on the 2 beds (3 of them) and about $2300-2400 on the 1 bed (1 unit)
 

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It is 100% vacant. Does not matter. Yea, thats how insane the rent control laws are. Registered legal rents are between 900-1250. Market rents are $3200-3400 on the 2 beds (3 of them) and about $2300-2400 on the 1 bed (1 unit)
Oh, vacant. That would have been great. We inherited a tenant in a 3 family years ago. Heroin addict, did not pay rent for 3 or 4 months. Her car had a sasquatch mural on it. She eventually moved out on her own, but was that a lot of fun.
 

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Oh, vacant. That would have been great. We inherited a tenant in a 3 family years ago. Heroin addict, did not pay rent for 3 or 4 months. Her car had a sasquatch mural on it. She eventually moved out on her own, but was that a lot of fun.
Back in the 80's I owned a duplex on Guilden St with a buddy of mine. 2 times we had tenants who refused to pay rent or move out, 1 being a college student, the other time was a nurse at St Peters. We just went in one day and started throwing all their stuff to the curb. Problem solved.
 
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If you don't really love the house just burn it down. Collect insurance. Tennant problem solved. IANAL.
 

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Agreed. But its to score cheap political points. Its that simple.

Rent control is racist tbh. Because what it does is encourage those people to never leave that housing unit because monthly nut is so low and therefore they never buy which furthermore means they never build wealth
Why is it racist?
 
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Agreed. But its to score cheap political points. Its that simple.

Rent control is racist tbh. Because what it does is encourage those people to never leave that housing unit because monthly nut is so low and therefore they never buy which furthermore means they never build wealth

There's a TON of rent controlled units in Hoboken that are primarily white. Entire buildings even. And that have free parking on top of it.

Also, if you're a teacher, cop, firefighter in Hoboken you need somewhere to live. Should they all have to live somewhere else, and where's the next closest cheap place? Cops as of right now are required to live in Hoboken though they're considering changing it.
 

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Still Monmouth County and my guess is Allentown HS would be shore conference.
Yep.

But not really a “Shore town” IMO.

My DMZ is about anything east of Rte 35 qualifies. Just being in Monmouth County doesn’t cut it.

Although more than a few on here will disagree with my above definition.🤷‍♂️😎
 
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