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BeaverSlayerReincarnated69

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Dean Pope said:
I'll be waiting for the first person who actually comes out and says, "Sure, like a lot of people, I rape sex trafficked girls."
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I say this not because I am or am not i fan. I said this because he has a well documented split from Epstein that happened 20+ years ago.

So maybe you should read what I wrote.....but I know that TDS just shuts down all ability to process and you people turn simple jack on us.
 
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Landomatic said:
In the Netflix documentary I watched, they weren't runaways. They were just normal underage girls who wanted to make some extra money and weren't old enough to know what they were really getting themselves into.

And as far as parenting, the vast majority of the parents likely had no idea their daughters were doing this. Teenagers lie to their parents all the time about what they're doing for far less. Highly doubtful any of them said, "Hey, mom and dad, I'm getting paid to go to some rich old guy's house to give him a massage. Cool?"
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Kids lie....but if you don't know your kid is going out and ******* old guys weekly, then you're not paying attention. Sure, could've happened the first time, but more than likely this is bad, neglectful parenting.

"Oh the kids probably lied to their parents. Don't blame them." Give me a break
 
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Dean Pope said:
That's what I am talking about. Huge contracts. Paying many times what something is worth. Personally, I don't think DOGE will deal with any of this unless they only go after certain companies and let others go. You know, say DEI a few times or whatever. It's all good. (yes I am cynical)
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So how did you feel about the equipment going to Ukraine.....because that was depreciated down to pennies on the million, and then new contracts to replace said trucks/tanks/artillery were then drawn up for us to pay 5x the value for the REPLACEMENT stuff.....so we got screwed twice.


One example. 10 armored trucks. Replacement value $7.05m. Depreciated value $0. So how many billion did we really send to Ukraine and how many billion did it cost us to upgrade and replace what we sent.
 
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BeaverSlayerReincarnated69 said:
I say this not because I am or am not i fan. I said this because he has a well documented split from Epstein that happened 20+ years ago.

So maybe you should read what I wrote.....but I know that TDS just shuts down all ability to process and you people turn simple jack on us.
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What bothers me is that Patel is silent on the requests and Bomdi appears to be nothing more than a paper lion thus far. It's very disappointing.
 
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litespeedhuskerfan said:
Like you're ever going to give em any benefit of any doubt anyway. Guarantee no matter how its dun, it will be wrong...

....and i think its going awesome so far BTW
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Dont paint me into a political corner because you would be dead wrong. I am all about Patel and Bondi and excited for their appointments. However, the early optics is poor. When Bondi tells Jesse Watters the information is sickening and says she will release the files and doesn wasnt a good look. You had people from both sides of the isle saying WTF - release it already.

She then dumps BS binders to smiling influencers was another bad look. The info in those binders were interesting but nothing that shocked anyone. Then her public letter to Patel started makong it look like a circus.
 
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Dont paint me into a political corner because you would be dead wrong. I am all about Patel and Bondi and excited for their appointments. However, the early optics is poor. When Bondi tells Jesse Watters the information is sickening and says she will release the files and doesn wasnt a good look. You had people from both sides of the isle saying WTF - release it already.

She then dumps BS binders to smiling influencers was another bad look. The info in those was interesting but nothing that shocked anyone. Then her public letter to Patel started makong it look like a circus.
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I stand by what i said...
 
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Lincoln100 said:
Not a chance DOGE would ever try that, not to mention I highly doubt it would hold up. It’s way too political and should only be dealt with through legislation
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Exactly. Doge is about waste fraud and abuse. Now is there some inn is and medicare/caid?? Sure. Especially the ones over 135 years old
 
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Huskers123456 said:
Well they need to stop hyping it up and saying they will do everything right away. Just tell people they will release it at some point. Instead of hyping some big release that was nothing new.
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I don't know what people expect to find. Epstein and Maxwell abused underage teen girls but that does't mean that everyone that Epstein associated withe over the years participated in it. The very wealthy are an exclusive club and they tend to attend the same social events. Also, due to their wealth, they have the ability to engage with political and celebrity figures. Add to that that Epstein also hosted scientific and other conferences on his island and probably cleaned it up for the dignitaries. Otherwise the news would have gotten out much sooner. Also, let's be honest, with many hundreds of girls as witnesses one of them would talk if it involved someone that hasn't already been outed.
 
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BeaverSlayerReincarnated69 said:
I say this not because I am or am not i fan. I said this because he has a well documented split from Epstein that happened 20+ years ago.

So maybe you should read what I wrote.....but I know that TDS just shuts down all ability to process and you people turn simple jack on us.
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I know all about all of that. As for your "you people" comment, having an ability to process to me means that I think for myself and it's OK to disagree. The other way is to consume only one point of view of information and allow myself to be groomed to agree with one opinion on every single issue. That's not my thing.
 
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BeaverSlayerReincarnated69 said:
So how did you feel about the equipment going to Ukraine.....because that was depreciated down to pennies on the million, and then new contracts to replace said trucks/tanks/artillery were then drawn up for us to pay 5x the value for the REPLACEMENT stuff.....so we got screwed twice.


One example. 10 armored trucks. Replacement value $7.05m. Depreciated value $0. So how many billion did we really send to Ukraine and how many billion did it cost us to upgrade and replace what we sent.
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I'm not a fan of government waste. This kind of thing has been going on for years. Spend a few days looking into the Iraq debacle. Makes Ukraine look like nickel slots.
 
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Dean Pope said:
I know all about all of that. As for your "you people" comment, having an ability to process to me means that I think for myself and it's OK to disagree. The other way is to consume only one point of view of information and allow myself to be groomed to agree with one opinion on every single issue. That's not my thing.
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How enlightened....maybe your wide spread opinions should be reflected in your answers then. Instead of narrow minded garbage.
 
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Dean Pope said:
I'm not a fan of government waste. This kind of thing has been going on for years. Spend a few days looking into the Iraq debacle. Makes Ukraine look like nickel slots.
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There is a huge difference....the war on terror touched our home soil, and we were directly involved with troops on the ground. We were spending money on our own people and causes. Waste or not. And most of that money was legislated there bi partisanly....

How is that at all comparable to Ukraine? And a president unilaterally approving aid for much of the last 2 years, or extorting aid by tying it into larger spending bills?

It's a simple question. Since you hate spending on the MIC, then were you in favor of sending money to Ukraine?
 
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I am always a bit perplexed by this reasoning.. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and didn’t have WMD but we invaded anyway…. Spent over a trillion dollars there and lots of American blood for a manufactured reason but that is ok. Not sure how that counts as defending the country but whatever. We have sent less money ($120b vs $140b) to Ukraine than Europe and $58 billion of the support was actually spent here in the US…. Just don’t understand spending over a trillion on a non-threat country but spending $120b, renewing our weapons stockpile, pumping $58b into the US economy to slow a direct threat to Europe and ourselves is wasteful.. Also, China is watching closely and a failure to back Ukraine is the green light to go for Taiwan, which we just did.. just makes me wonder what these chuckleheads are thinking….
 
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SLOHusker said:
I don't know what people expect to find. Epstein and Maxwell abused underage teen girls but that does't mean that everyone that Epstein associated withe over the years participated in it. The very wealthy are an exclusive club and they tend to attend the same social events. Also, due to their wealth, they have the ability to engage with political and celebrity figures. Add to that that Epstein also hosted scientific and other conferences on his island and probably cleaned it up for the dignitaries. Otherwise the news would have gotten out much sooner. Also, let's be honest, with many hundreds of girls as witnesses one of them would talk if it involved someone that hasn't already been outed.
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I’m driving but I’ll try to reply without getting into a wre
 
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Iroh2 said:
I am always a bit perplexed by this reasoning.. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and didn’t have WMD but we invaded anyway…. Spent over a trillion dollars there and lots of American blood for a manufactured reason but that is ok. Not sure how that counts as defending the country but whatever. We have sent less money ($120b vs $140b) to Ukraine than Europe and $58 billion of the support was actually spent here in the US…. Just don’t understand spending over a trillion on a non-threat country but spending $120b, renewing our weapons stockpile, pumping $58b into the US economy to slow a direct threat to Europe and ourselves is wasteful.. Also, China is watching closely and a failure to back Ukraine is the green light to go for Taiwan, which we just did.. just makes me wonder what these chuckleheads are thinking….
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For starters, I never said my opinion on sending money to ukraine or not. I'm just saying this guy is claiming that people in power are avoiding certain cuts to the MIC to enrich themselves and their friends. That just seems like a pretty hypocritical claim IF he supported money to Ukraine.....which is the question asked and avoided.
 
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Iroh2 said:
I am always a bit perplexed by this reasoning.. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and didn’t have WMD but we invaded anyway…. Spent over a trillion dollars there and lots of American blood for a manufactured reason but that is ok. Not sure how that counts as defending the country but whatever. We have sent less money ($120b vs $140b) to Ukraine than Europe and $58 billion of the support was actually spent here in the US…. Just don’t understand spending over a trillion on a non-threat country but spending $120b, renewing our weapons stockpile, pumping $58b into the US economy to slow a direct threat to Europe and ourselves is wasteful.. Also, China is watching closely and a failure to back Ukraine is the green light to go for Taiwan, which we just did.. just makes me wonder what these chuckleheads are thinking….
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I am always a bit perplexed by this reasoning.. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and didn’t have WMD but we invaded anyway…. Spent over a trillion dollars there and lots of American blood for a manufactured reason but that is ok. Not sure how that counts as defending the country but whatever. We have sent less money ($120b vs $140b) to Ukraine than Europe and $58 billion of the support was actually spent here in the US…. Just don’t understand spending over a trillion on a non-threat country but spending $120b, renewing our weapons stockpile, pumping $58b into the US economy to slow a direct threat to Europe and ourselves is wasteful.. Also, China is watching closely and a failure to back Ukraine is the green light to go for Taiwan, which we just did.. just makes me wonder what these chuckleheads are thinking….
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So you believe funds were misappropriated for Iraq but totally believe the funds for Ukraine were necessary?

And you’re questioning others logic?

Both were used to line the pockets of military contractors, lobbyists and congressional critters.
 
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Iroh2 said:
I am always a bit perplexed by this reasoning.. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and didn’t have WMD but we invaded anyway…. Spent over a trillion dollars there and lots of American blood for a manufactured reason but that is ok. Not sure how that counts as defending the country but whatever. We have sent less money ($120b vs $140b) to Ukraine than Europe and $58 billion of the support was actually spent here in the US…. Just don’t understand spending over a trillion on a non-threat country but spending $120b, renewing our weapons stockpile, pumping $58b into the US economy to slow a direct threat to Europe and ourselves is wasteful.. Also, China is watching closely and a failure to back Ukraine is the green light to go for Taiwan, which we just did.. just makes me wonder what these chuckleheads are thinking….
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China wants us to drain our resources so we can't defend Taiwan. When we did nothing to stop the initial invasion. That was the greenlight
 
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Iroh2 said:
I am always a bit perplexed by this reasoning.. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and didn’t have WMD but we invaded anyway…. Spent over a trillion dollars there and lots of American blood for a manufactured reason but that is ok. Not sure how that counts as defending the country but whatever. We have sent less money ($120b vs $140b) to Ukraine than Europe and $58 billion of the support was actually spent here in the US…. Just don’t understand spending over a trillion on a non-threat country but spending $120b, renewing our weapons stockpile, pumping $58b into the US economy to slow a direct threat to Europe and ourselves is wasteful.. Also, China is watching closely and a failure to back Ukraine is the green light to go for Taiwan, which we just did.. just makes me wonder what these chuckleheads are thinking….
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You think Ukraine and Taiwan should be mentioned in the same paragraph, and you are calling someone else a chucklehead.
 
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So you believe funds were misappropriated for Iraq but totally believe the funds for Ukraine were necessary?

And you’re questioning others logic?

Both were used to line the pockets of military contractors, lobbyists and congressional critters.
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Funding to Ukraine is absolutely necessary, invading Iraq was not. Unless we stop Russia and China now and don’t let them take parts of Europe and Taiwan (and our current weak leadership crumbles against anyone with strength so that is possible) we’ll be fighting them within 5 years. $120b is the cheapest deterrent we will ever see.
 
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Iroh2 said:
Funding to Ukraine is absolutely necessary, invading Iraq was not. Unless we stop Russia and China now and don’t let them take parts of Europe and Taiwan (and our current weak leadership crumbles against anyone with strength so that is possible) we’ll be fighting them within 5 years. $120b is the cheapest deterrent we will ever see.
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Haha clueless
 
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Iroh2 said:
Funding to Ukraine is absolutely necessary, invading Iraq was not. Unless we stop Russia and China now and don’t let them take parts of Europe and Taiwan (and our current weak leadership crumbles against anyone with strength so that is possible) we’ll be fighting them within 5 years. $120b is the cheapest deterrent we will ever see.
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Both are unnecessary

We need to tariff China and any other country violating human rights out of business.

Become the industrialized producer we once were with good jobs and great cost of living.
 
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