OT - Dark Chocolate, Yea or Nay?

nu2u

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Its a healthy snack. Look it up. Yes, moderation, I know.
 

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Big yes for me!
 

nu2u

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not very healthy. Very high oxalates. Moderation for sure.
It is touted as a proven benefit for HBP and good for heart health, among other positive effects.

I'm trying to reduce chocolate consumption (not really that much to begin with) and, in the process, incorporate some healthy milk chocolate alternatives.

From what I can tell regarding DC, the benefits far outweigh any possible negatives. Articles like the one linked below put forth the main benefits
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/7-health-benefits-dark-chocolate#section5
 

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If you're a yea and a regular consumer, suggest a decent lower cost product because damn! what I've been looking at is expensive.
 

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It is touted as a proven benefit for HBP and good for heart health, among other positive effects.

I'm trying to reduce chocolate consumption (not really that much to begin with) and, in the process, incorporate some healthy milk chocolate alternatives.

From what I can tell regarding DC, the benefits far outweigh any possible negatives. Articles like the one linked below put forth the main benefits
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/7-health-benefits-dark-chocolate#section5
look up the negatives of oxalates.
What in dark chocolate are you hoping to get? Antioxidants from plants are worthless.
The studies that that link quotes are observational/epidemiological studies. The weakest of the studies.
 

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The only kind worth eating, IMO. I did have to acquire a taste for it, though, and some dark chocolate is still too bitter to me to be enjoyable.

Plus, it's vegan.
 

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If you're a yea and a regular consumer, suggest a decent lower cost product because damn! what I've been looking at is expensive.

Are you near a Trader Joes? Plenty of options there. Might be harder to find affordable options at other chain grocery stores, though. You can often find the Endangered Species brand of dark chocolate bars on sale at Kroger chains for 2 for $4. Despite the weird labeling, they are quite good.
 

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look up the negatives of oxalates.
What in dark chocolate are you hoping to get? Antioxidants from plants are worthless.
The studies that that link quotes are observational/epidemiological studies. The weakest of the studies.
I'm just looking for a solid value DC product to substitute for chocolate cravings as I gradually reduce consumption. I can handle the bitterness.

I don't doubt your warning about oxalates. The persistent favorable recommendations of health professionals support a conclusion that the benefits must outweigh any negatives.

Thanks for the heads up - I plan to limit the intake to maybe one bar every 3-4 days or so. If I develop kidney stones I cant say I wasn't warnedSmokin
 
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RedMyMind

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I'm just looking for a solid value DC product to substitute for chocolate cravings as I gradually reduce consumption. I can handle the bitterness.

I don't doubt your warning about oxalates. The persistent favorable recommendations of health professionals support a conclusion that the benefits must outweigh any negatives.

Thanks for the heads up - I plan to limit the intake to maybe one bar every 3-4 days or so. If I develop kidney stones I cant say I wasn't warnedSmokin
kidney stones are only the telltale sign but even ones who don't get kidney stones accumulate oxalates in tissues. 85% of people over 50 have deposits in their thyroids. Best of luck and I agree, chocolate is delicious. Oxalate.org will help make educated decisions. Just stay away from spinach and other "healthy greens" at all costs. :)
 

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kidney stones are only the telltale sign but even ones who don't get kidney stones accumulate oxalates in tissues. 85% of people over 50 have deposits in their thyroids. Best of luck and I agree, chocolate is delicious. Oxalate.org will help make educated decisions. Just stay away from spinach and other "healthy greens" at all costs. :)

What IS safe to eat? No dark chocolate I can understand but no spinach?
 

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What IS safe to eat? No dark chocolate I can understand but no spinach?
spinach is the worst. Loaded with oxalates and goitergens (disrupt thyroid). 1/2 cup has 755 mg oxalates. 200mg is a wise daily allowance.
Chard, curly kale, mustard greens, etc have a ton of oxalates.
If you eat greens, choose romaine or iceburg.
Carbs, eat white rice. Pressure cook potatoes.
Butter or lard for fats. Stay away from poly-unsaturated seed oils.
Sadly, 90%+ animal foods seems to be the safest bet. Meat, eggs and dairy.
Vegetables are really not a health food. Fruits in moderation are ok.
Pistachios are the safest nut. Peanuts and cashews are highly inflammable.
Tea has oxalates, coffee has chlorogenic acid (suppresses native immune system).
 
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spinach is the worst. Loaded with oxalates and goitergens (disrupt thyroid). 1/2 cup has 755 mg oxalates. 200mg is a wise daily allowance.
Chard, curly kale, mustard greens, etc have a ton of oxalates.
If you eat greens, choose romaine or iceburg.
Carbs, eat white rice. Pressure cook potatoes.
Butter or lard for fats. Stay away from poly-unsaturated seed oils.
Sadly, 90%+ animal foods seems to be the safest bet. Meat, eggs and dairy.
Vegetables are really not a health food. Fruits in moderation are ok.
Pistachios are the safest nut. Peanuts and cashews are highly inflammable.
Tea has oxalates, coffee has chlorogenic acid (suppresses native immune system).

You know....you're not exactly a big smiling ray of sunshine in my sky right now...
 

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spinach is the worst. Loaded with oxalates and goitergens (disrupt thyroid). 1/2 cup has 755 mg oxalates. 200mg is a wise daily allowance.
Chard, curly kale, mustard greens, etc have a ton of oxalates.
If you eat greens, choose romaine or iceburg.
Carbs, eat white rice. Pressure cook potatoes.
Butter or lard for fats. Stay away from poly-unsaturated seed oils.
Sadly, 90%+ animal foods seems to be the safest bet. Meat, eggs and dairy.
Vegetables are really not a health food. Fruits in moderation are ok.
Pistachios are the safest nut. Peanuts and cashews are highly inflammable.
Tea has oxalates, coffee has chlorogenic acid (suppresses native immune system).

At least pizza is still healthy
 

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