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bully12

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See if you can find her something that isn't rimfire. Rimfire rounds are inherently unreliable.

Tried the exact same revolver in a .38 but the kick was just too much for her to handle. She's not comfortable handling a semi-automatic in a vehicle in a stressful situation, so the .22 magnum was the only viable alternative. Wish it weren't rimfire as well, but at least it's a hard-hitting hollow point round.
 

dog12

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Not really. Sorry for the interjection. Not trying to knock those who do carry, just saying there are millions that don't and live to tell about it.

Right.

I'm guessing that everyone already knew that.
 

o_tacodawg

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I think in the state of Mississippi, a concealed carry permit only gets you out of a holster. Dumb law.
 

o_tacodawg

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Glock 17 is likely the gold standard for handguns, good for carrying exposed on the hip, but too big to be concealed carried by most. I'm also a big fan of the Canik 9mm, but it has a large frame. Due to size a Glock 42 (.380) is a good EDC. I only carry in the woods or in a high treat situation (which i try to stay out of). I keep a Glock 17 in my driver's side a door pocket and a .410 shotgun behind the seat. I also keep a cheap Taurus in my truck in case i need a throw down weapon.

I’m 5’5. Short as hell. My G17 doesn’t stand out at all in my belt concealed.
 

Mobile Bay

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I have fired thousands of rounds of .22 long rifle through 2 pistols and 2 rifles. Never had a misfire.

I don't believe you.

But then again I have had 2/10 Lapua rounds misfire in a match before. So what do I know?
 

Mobile Bay

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Tried the exact same revolver in a .38 but the kick was just too much for her to handle. She's not comfortable handling a semi-automatic in a vehicle in a stressful situation, so the .22 magnum was the only viable alternative. Wish it weren't rimfire as well, but at least it's a hard-hitting hollow point round.


You might think this odd. But 32-20, 32.H&R Magnum, and .327 Federal Magnum are going to be in the same recoil class. Those are all centerfire.
 

mcdawg22

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I have a question for the group. I’m not trying to flame, my mind just works in numbers and risk calculations. How many of the carry crowd wear masks? The reason I ask is, again, I look at things from a risk perspective. I personally do not know anyone that has been killed as a result of an attack that would have saved their life if they had been carrying. I completely understand that I am probably in the minority with that. I do know people that have died of Covid. So if experts say that wearing a mask may help save lives, why wouldn’t you do that if you feel that carrying a weapon will potentially save lives in that very rare circumstance? Again, it’s just a question, I am not passing judgment because I have worked in bank branches in shady locations, that I was glad as hell I had an armed Sherriff Deputy on site and I would hate to have to worry about people walking in the door with masks on without them.

ETA: If I did carry I would carry the Sig 365, Walther PPK 380, both of which I shot at a range and loved them. Glock 17 is my 3rd choice because I shot it a lot with my cop buddies and was really accurate with it.
 
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Hugh's Burner Phone

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I think in the state of Mississippi, a concealed carry permit only gets you out of a holster. Dumb law.

We also have open carry and no permit concealed carry. I have the enhanced concealed which means I can carry in about 98% of the places in MS. I can walk past a no firearms sign and not think twice about it...including schools. Just a small handful of places my permit is null such as a police station or courtroom while court is in session.
 

57stratdawg

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I would not expect there to be much rationale involved when it comes to gun ownership. After all, the gun most likely to injure or kill you is by far the one you purchased, not the boogeyman’s.

The best way to protect yourself from a firearms injury is not to buy one.
 

Mobile Bay

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I do. But it still galls me to no end that the government is forcing me to. I was wearing one before they did as well.
 

greenbean.sixpack

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I would not expect there to be much rationale involved when it comes to gun ownership. After all, the gun most likely to injure or kill you is by far the one you purchased, not the boogeyman’s.

The best way to protect yourself from a firearms injury is not to buy one.

Concur with this, for most people they are more likely to be injured by their own firearm. Prior to a tragic break in/boating accident i owned dozens of weapons and thousands of rounds of ammo. I don't carry in normal situations, but I like to be prepared and have options. I'm scared to death of firearms and treat them with much respect and fear. Firearms are not your friend, they have but one mission, to destroy, treat them like you are a handler of venomous snakes. Learn the four laws of gun safety and live by them. If you stay ready, your never have to get ready.
 
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SwampDawg

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I don't believe you.

But then again I have had 2/10 Lapua rounds misfire in a match before. So what do I know?

I don't even know what the hell Lapua is, but the standard USA brands have never failed me. Never.
 

Dawgbite

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I have a question for the group. I’m not trying to flame, my mind just works in numbers and risk calculations. How many of the carry crowd wear masks? The reason I ask is, again, I look at things from a risk perspective. I personally do not know anyone that has been killed as a result of an attack that would have saved their life if they had been carrying. I completely understand that I am probably in the minority with that. I do know people that have died of Covid. So if experts say that wearing a mask may help save lives, why wouldn’t you do that if you feel that carrying a weapon will potentially save lives in that very rare circumstance? Again, it’s just a question, I am not passing judgment because I have worked in bank branches in shady locations, that I was glad as hell I had an armed Sherriff Deputy on site and I would hate to have to worry about people walking in the door with masks on without them.

ETA: If I did carry I would carry the Sig 365, Walther PPK 380, both of which I shot at a range and loved them. Glock 17 is my 3rd choice because I shot it a lot with my cop buddies and was really accurate with it.
Yes, I still wear a mask even after Tot dropped the requirements. I also wear a motorcycle helmet even in states that don’t require it. I don’t always carry a gun but I’m cognizant of where I’m going before leaving home and decide accordingly.
 

Charlie Varney

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I carry a Sig P365. I waited and bought one after Sig fixed the issues they had when it first came out.

I never print al all with it. Can ever pocket carry with it. Like it a lot.
 

dog12

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I would not expect there to be much rationale involved when it comes to gun ownership. After all, the gun most likely to injure or kill you is by far the one you purchased, not the boogeyman’s.

The best way to protect yourself from a firearms injury is not to buy one.

That's your opinion, and you can live your life the way you want based on that opinion.

Other people, of course, will have a different opinion. They too can live their lives the way they want.

Although you and I have never experienced a situation in our lives where we needed a handgun to defend ourselves, it does happen to others.

For example:




Now . . . I have no problem with you deciding not to buy a handgun. You have the right to make that decision, and I respect your decision.

However, I do want you (and me) to always have the option of buying a handgun should you (or I) decide to do that.

I do not want a government, or anyone else, telling me that I cannot buy a handgun.
 

PhredPhantom

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I do. But it still galls me to no end that the government is forcing me to. I was wearing one before they did as well.

Which brings up the question:
If the government can mandate that we wear a mask because we might get sick, why shouldn’t they also mandate that we carry a weapon for self-defense for our own protection and the protection of others?
 

dog12

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I have a question for the group. I’m not trying to flame, my mind just works in numbers and risk calculations. How many of the carry crowd wear masks? The reason I ask is, again, I look at things from a risk perspective. I personally do not know anyone that has been killed as a result of an attack that would have saved their life if they had been carrying. I completely understand that I am probably in the minority with that. I do know people that have died of Covid. So if experts say that wearing a mask may help save lives, why wouldn’t you do that if you feel that carrying a weapon will potentially save lives in that very rare circumstance? Again, it’s just a question, I am not passing judgment because I have worked in bank branches in shady locations, that I was glad as hell I had an armed Sherriff Deputy on site and I would hate to have to worry about people walking in the door with masks on without them.

ETA: If I did carry I would carry the Sig 365, Walther PPK 380, both of which I shot at a range and loved them. Glock 17 is my 3rd choice because I shot it a lot with my cop buddies and was really accurate with it.

Who are these "experts" that suggest wearing masks saves lives?

I'm fairly certain we could also find "experts" who suggest that wearing a mask is useless . . . even though finding them would be more difficult because the social media platforms censor them heavily.

Also, I have no problem with any person whom chooses to wear a mask.

My problem is created by the mask-wearers desire to FORCE ME to wear a mask.

In my opinion, whether to wear a mask should be the decision of each individual citizen.

Similarly, whether to own a gun should be the decision of each individual citizen.

Let the people, not the government, make those decisions.
 

dog12

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Which brings up the question:
If the government can mandate that we wear a mask because we might get sick, why shouldn’t they also mandate that we carry a weapon for self-defense for our own protection and the protection of others?

Good point.
 

RocketDawg

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Which brings up the question:
If the government can mandate that we wear a mask because we might get sick, why shouldn’t they also mandate that we carry a weapon for self-defense for our own protection and the protection of others?

As I'm sure you know, the mask mandate is so you lessen the chance of making others sick, not because you might get sick yourself.
 

PineGroveBully

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I’ve know 8-10 ppl that have been murdered, none that I know of that were toting. Would a gun have saved their lives? Idk, but I wish they would have one to give themselves a chance.

outside of suicide, I’ve only known one person to harm themselves accidentally. Had a little brother riding backroads while having a few with a girl and he had a .22 pistol in his boot. Saw a snake and probably wanting to show out while drawing the pistol from his boot he shot himself through the calf. I came home and he says he needs to show me something. He pulls up his pant leg and I bout got sick looking at it and I have a pretty strong constitution. I told him he needed to go to the hospital. He said, “They ask to many questions at hospitals.” He and a nurse finally got it healed up.
 

BELdog

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I would not expect there to be much rationale involved when it comes to gun ownership. After all, the gun most likely to injure or kill you is by far the one you purchased, not the boogeyman’s.

The best way to protect yourself from a firearms injury is not to buy one.

Owning a vehicle greatly increases your chance of dying in a car accident. What’s your point?
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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I'd just look past it

some people think the law is going to be there to save them.

When they really showup, is to collect evidence.
 

Dawgbite

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You know your permit means nothing to businesses with posted signage, right?
How the enhanced carry permit has been explained to me by a firearms instructor, a US Marshal, and a state Highway Patrol Captain is that the enhanced carry permit allows me to carry in businesses with posted signage without being prosecuted. If discovered carrying in a place with preventive signage, I can be asked to leave but I can’t be charged with any crime. If I refuse to leave I can be charged with trespassing but not for being armed. There are exceptions to this such as courts in session and such. Is this not correct?
 

Hugh's Burner Phone

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How the enhanced carry permit has been explained to me by a firearms instructor, a US Marshal, and a state Highway Patrol Captain is that the enhanced carry permit allows me to carry in businesses with posted signage without being prosecuted. If discovered carrying in a place with preventive signage, I can be asked to leave but I can’t be charged with any crime. If I refuse to leave I can be charged with trespassing but not for being armed. There are exceptions to this such as courts in session and such. Is this not correct?

This is correct.
 

o_tacodawg

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I find it funny I asked a question pertaining to folks that carry and it turned into folks who don’t giving their input.

For future reference, as most, if not all adults do, if the question does not pertain to you- your input isn’t needed, wanted, or sought out.

Why is that a hard concept for any adult to understand?
 

Lawdawg.sixpack

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According to the law, that’s not correct. The sign being posted means you entered without permission, so you are technically trespassing at that point, not just by refusing to leave if asked. There’s no exception to trespassing for ignoring the signs if you have an enhanced carry permit.

BUT in practicality, you would probably simply be asked to leave. Then if you want to argue, and the police are called to remove you, you probably catch the misdemeanor trespass.
 

patdog

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What kind of crowd do you run with? Statistically, 5 out of 100,000 people will be murdered in the USA.
 
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