That almost never helps! It take more than a couple of ride alongs for some empathy and compassion, something that the elected leader in this country doesn't realize, or refuses to realize. And judging by the responses of others (not on this board, but all over) they are resonating with the venom.
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That almost never helps! It take more than a couple of ride alongs for some empathy and compassion, something that the elected leader in this country doesn't realize, or refuses to realize. And judging by the responses of others (not on this board, but all over) they are resonating with the venom.
I don't know what happened along the way, but the kneeling of the anthem was NEVER to disrespect the servicemen/women who protect these shores. It was meant to bring to light the injustices that many face in poor and destitute communities. Somebody got the idea that it was about the military, when they actually had nothing to with the focus or the backlash.
And even in this thread we have gone from kneeling to raise awareness of police brutality to hate for the President. I see that sort of thing all the time. If you kneel, you dishonor the military. If you stand, you support a bigot President. Meanwhile, wth happened to discussion of CK's original cause?
Total cluster, IMO.
Total cluster, IMO.
Judging by what he did (the PIG statements) I don't think cops would ever take him up on any offer.
Could he have gone about it in a different way? Perhaps. But I have to give the guy credit, he's just loudly repeating what many in the HOOD are just talking about, except he did it on a platform of the country's most popular sport. That almost always will get people to react and listen.
More confusing that going to a Catholic mass when you were not raised as a Catholic.
All of this is really sad.
Puerto Rico is suffering badly right now, North Korea is saber rattling, and the news coverage is on this symbolic nonsense.
Despite its flaws and a flawed man as President, America is still the greatest country in the world, and if you don't want to put your hand on your heart and salute this great country, that's your business. Time to move on.
I'm not sure if kneeling dishonors the military, but there are some like my brothers, one who serves still, and the other who has fought in a few tours over in the middle east who will tell CK "YOU GO AHEAD BRUH! WE DID THAT SO YOU CAN HAVE A VOICE!" Some would disagree with that, but there's a reason some are pissed and some aren't.
Let's make everything political. And drive away half the viewers. Good thinking guys.
There are lots of ex fans saying they are done with the NFL. Should be interesting.
There are lots of ex fans saying they are done with the NFL. Should be interesting.
If this was done before the anthem, then why are most people still going apeshit about this?
Some people go apeshit over anything that is not the norm
I really don't care whether athletes stand, sit, kneel, pump fists, hold hands or arms or do anything else they can think of doing during the national anthem. It's called free speech. Why people get upset or alarmed about harmless gestures, I don't know. I do know that Trump likes to get his supporters upset about everything and anything, and this is one of those silly things that works for some.
The US Constitution was trampled on for the previous eight years...were you speaking out then, or didn't it matter as much? Just a question.
LOL
Yeah Obama really trampled it. Obamacare upheld- twice. Gay Marriage upheld. Abortion restrictions smashed to pieces.
Cheetolini couldn't hold Obama's jock.
What would you think of people sitting next to you in the stands at a Rutgers game that did not stand during the national anthem? Think about that for a few seconds. I'll bet you would think they were rude and disrespectful.
When CK started this do you think he cared about ratings? He wanted to protest so he found the biggest stage available to him.
From what I have heard, the Cowboys did stand during the national anthem. They did this before the anthem.
Really? The great divider of this nation is the Democratic "race card" party, the liberal media, and Obama.
Keeping to the subject of Obama's Administration trampling on the US Constitution during his presidency...The US Supreme Court Obama ruled that he overstepped his authority during his term as president. Also, information now available proves that his administration was corrupt. Between illegal wire tapping James Clapper, to James Comey, Susan Rice, Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch all Obama lap dogs lying under oath to the American people in Washington hearings. Not to speak of Clinton and cohort Huma Abedin. Where is the outrage?
I kinda hate it too but with all of the SJW idiot pressure it was a pretty good compromise.
Folks are kneeling all over the football field including for prayers. As long as the stand for our country's anthem I'm fine. That said I've seen 2 NFL games this year and skipped everything but the plays via TiVo. I'm about done with folks who hate me and my country.
I would think that they might not be paying attention or they might be communists or neo-nazis. Rude or disrespectful? No. After anthem was over, I wouldn't care either way.
Frankly, I don't even know why we play the anthem before every single sporting event on every level. I think the tradition started at baseball games during WW2 IIRC. It spread to all sports regardless of war or peace time, making it less significant IMO. Having said that, I always stand and take my hat off but I don't care what others do. Outrage over protesting athletes is much ado about nothing
LOL. It's really all about disrespecting and tearing down the pillars of what made this country great. Don't expect you to get that though - you've been the biggest whiner on this site since you've made you sexual tastes an issue.
If the folks protesting really care about the issue, then need to change the dynamic. The only issue being discussed is whether or not you should protest during the anthem. Nothing on racial equality, that issue has been lost.
Just to clarify, CK's original cause was to raise awareness of excessive force by police.
Carry on.
Well the NFL has made their choice.
When asked for permission to display a sticker on their helmets in memory of the BLM sponsored assassination of five or so police in Dallas the Cowboys were denied.
When a few players asked to be able to wear special colored shoes in recognition of domestic violence the NFL said no.
Disrespecting the flag and anthem of the the country of their birth that has given innumerable benefits to the world gets the OK from the NFL.
Their business their rules. I can respond by ignoring them.
If he was REALLY concerned with Black Lives he's be in every major Democrat run inner city doing something to protect Black Lives from their most dangerous threat. (And it's not the police)
Kneeling during the anthem is not tearing down anything great. It is a small gesture which is easily ignored, but made into a bigger deal by people who get upset about everything and anything
There never really was an issue - it was an "All about me" Kapernick scam. He has no idea what he doing or who he's really doing it for.
Let's be honest...when was the last Superbowl party that everyone stopped pouring their beer, getting a drink, playing beer pong getting food, going to the bathroom or stop filling out their pool when the NA is being played. Yes, there are some that stop what they are doing but usually stay seated in their chair and comment about who is signing it and how it just isnt as good as Whitney.
No it's a direct attack by showing direct disrespect to the symbols most associated with this country and the memories of those who died defending it. And it's not unintentional.
So sure it can be ignored - any gesture can - but some should not be - this is one of those.
They have the right to do it. The NFL has the right to allow it. I have the right to take offense and respond. So do millions of other normal Americans who take the insult as intended.
This. The faux outrage is overwhelming. Especially the faux outrage from Trump supporters, all while supporting a guy who has done... let's see... Oh, right - nothing.
Unless you count accelerating the North Korean nuclear program. He's done that pretty well.
It is not intended as disrespect to our military. You and Trump may be taking it that way, but that is not the intention. (actually, I don't even believe Trump is offended. He is just faking outrage to get some of his supporters hysterical, which is an easy thing to do)
I couldn't care less what they were doing, just like I couldn't care less what the players do. I like sports because its a 2-3 hour escape from reality, and that's it. Anything outside of play on the field, means absolutely zero to me.
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It was and is a poor way to express a message that has become lost. I am not sure why a player who chose to come out of the tunnel and standing would have to apologize for doing so regardless of a team vote. Has every player who has knelt or raised a fist been approved in a team vote? This is the problem with this form of protest it only divides us and it has created taking sides on an issue that truly does not address the underlying issue.
Awww snowflake, you don't have a right to not be offended or disrespected. Works both ways sparky. And by the way yes you're a homophobe.
The Constitution wasn't trampled over the last 8 years. It was trampled by the Bush administration, though. Your issue seems to be more with the skin color of the person who's President than with the trampling of the Constitution. Orange Julius Caesar has trampled the Constitution exponentially more in the last 10 months than Obama did in 8 years.