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Before the anthem. Can't believe I am saying this, but good job Cowboys.
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F*** Dallas and its cowgirls and this has nothing to do with this mass virtue-signal...
Just f*** em in general! :sunglasses:
Just f*** em in general! :sunglasses:
Good for them. Need to show this admin the Constitution matters, as much they attack it day in and out.
Elliot took a knee to protest domestic violence
this knee thing is just deflecting other major issues. I get the issue of inequality, but idk if this is the best platform aside for just making people angry and sick of the nfl. Also, kneeling for the US anthem and standing for England's anthem is a d'oh moment...look back in history (slave trade, colonization, etc)
Whats sad is that alejandro villanueva had to apologize for what he did. Maybe he didn't tell all this teammates, but if the defense is free speech, why does it seem he has to apologize for taking his free speech rights. there needs be discussion on both sides.
As someone who works with teens, how long before this trickles down to students sitting or kneeling during the pledge of allegiance each morning?
Whats sad is that alejandro villanueva had to apologize for what he did. Maybe he didn't tell all this teammates, but if the defense is free speech, why does it seem he has to apologize for taking his free speech rights. there needs be discussion on both sides.
As someone who works with teens, how long before this trickles down to students sitting or kneeling during the pledge of allegiance each morning?
I continue to be amazed that public schools haven't been forced to ditch the Pledge. Ya just know somebody's gonna make a thing about it, eventually.
I remember them mandating everyone stand. Thank god they won't get away with that much longer if they still are.
They are protesting CURRENT conditions in the US, not the UK. Theresa May did not call them sons of bitches, did she?
If the team agreed to do one thing, I can see why they were angry. The fair thing to do is either every do one thing or give everyone free choice from the team's perspective.
How did we go from Macarthyism to whatever this is so quickly?
I blame the fall of Russia.
I blame the fall of Russia.
They attack the Constitution because their copies are smeared with feces from wiping their asses with it. That makes it hard to read.
Fox News and The Apprentice. Sexual harassment and knee jerk fascism don't translate into cogent political analysis. Just like firing Meat Loaf for not selling enough ice cream on The Apprentice doesn't translate into managing the largest and most complex economy in the world.
Trump needs to re-start the USFL in 2025 with each player's contract requiring no Alinskylike Anthem Antics.
I have a question for some people on the board: have you ever read every verse of the national anthem? Ninety-nine percent of the population probably don't even know there is more than one verse. The third verse could be used as an excuse for players to kneel, but I doubted. Anyone of African descent would be pissed after reading the third verse. Francis Scott Key made that verse personal. He criticized slaves for joining the British Marines and fighting for their freedom. He basically said it's better to be a slave in America than to be free as a black living in under British rule. America has a dark past and if we don't address it we can't move forward. I'm a big believer in knowing your past will help you to move forward and avoid those same mistakes in the future. We come from different ethnic groups, but we are one nation. Get over it haters.
Doug: be honest - are we more educated/united but for Kaeperneak's actions?
I'd argue this whole thing has polarized even previously neutral people into one of two camps...
I'd argue this whole thing has polarized even previously neutral people into one of two camps...
or their involvement in the Presidential election .
A divided USA is good for them and Trump is "The Great Divider"
The so-called president caused this with his usual grandstanding to appeal to his angry base and his usual inappropriate comments. This is all about free speech now and telling the president you're not going to order us around.
i'm tired of the overpaid sob's dishonoring our flag and country, if they were so upset with conditions for blacks then why dont they go into the hoods in chicage, baltimore and st louis and help out the situation of blacks killing blacks. injustice? ********, i'm through watching these phonies as many Americans are. i truely feel sorry for the men and women who gave their lives for that flag and for theier families, childen who have to grow up without their mothers and fathers who gave all so these overpaid phonies get on tv and spit in the face of America. if you disagree with me thats your choice as a free American, i wont riot and try to burn any buildings down. God bless America, the flag and the anthem
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Actually, the reason for kneeling has been lost in this whole thing. He hasn't kneeled because he's disrespecting the flag or those who served in the military. He's attempting to bring the light about police brutality and other wrongs. As usual those in position of power are the ones being criticized. They deflect any criticism since they are in charge. They turn this entire thing on his head by pointing to the flag and by pointing to the military because they want to avoid the real issue. In human nature, which is to the follow the herd, we followed the people who spoke the loudest and repeat the message the most... those being criticized.
Now for Kaepernick to pick the national anthem to kneel, well that's a whole other issue. Still we need to remember the message that's trying to be sent. That's what's really important here.
Doug: the problem is the whole thing got all fubared and the end result is making society worse off overall (IMO).
another anti american with no idea of the reality thats taking place in this country
I think he has a pretty good grasp on reality. In contrast, your biscuits aren't all done.
That's the beauty of this country, we can have different views and opinions. It's unfortunate some of us get very upset when others don't have the same opinion. We regress to name calling. That my friend are the ones who are dangerous and the idiots of this country. Btw, my love for this country runs deep.
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******** . And they call themselves Americans team. Little by little things are being done to strip away anything American or patriotic.
Cuff, I agree 100%. I am also quite amazed that so many people do ignore what the protest is about and have been led into believing it is anti american or about loving our country or the military. I even take offense to those like J Jones who are not kneeling because of the original cause but only because Trump has threatened their pockets.
As for asking the question if this is fixing a problem or dividing us even more, change does not come about when everyone is comfortable. CK took a very non violent approach to make change that would make a great country even better. The more we want to believe it is about hating America or the military, the more WE harm our country.
I know for a fact that my son would have been kneeling last year and I know a couple of other things, he loves our country and his mother is not a "*****" as Trump just called her.
As for asking the question if this is fixing a problem or dividing us even more, change does not come about when everyone is comfortable. CK took a very non violent approach to make change that would make a great country even better. The more we want to believe it is about hating America or the military, the more WE harm our country.
I know for a fact that my son would have been kneeling last year and I know a couple of other things, he loves our country and his mother is not a "*****" as Trump just called her.
People are free to kneel or even stretch (like LeSean McCoy) during the national anthem.
But it is not always intention that matters. The other half of communication is reception and CKs actions have had some very negative unintended and far-reaching consequences, IMO.
It's not exactly clear where "the line" is in terms of how far you can go to send a message, but the more extreme you get, the closer you'll find yourself to another 9/11 scale tragedy. History is full of examples.
Are CKs actions making police more "aware" of their actions? I personally know several police officers and if anything it has made their jobs much more dangerous.
If CK wants to do anything to really raise "awareness", let him go undercover on some ridealongs with beat cops assigned to areas with statistically high levels of cop/AA tension and report back to us with his findings.
But it is not always intention that matters. The other half of communication is reception and CKs actions have had some very negative unintended and far-reaching consequences, IMO.
It's not exactly clear where "the line" is in terms of how far you can go to send a message, but the more extreme you get, the closer you'll find yourself to another 9/11 scale tragedy. History is full of examples.
Are CKs actions making police more "aware" of their actions? I personally know several police officers and if anything it has made their jobs much more dangerous.
If CK wants to do anything to really raise "awareness", let him go undercover on some ridealongs with beat cops assigned to areas with statistically high levels of cop/AA tension and report back to us with his findings.
Many of us see this as a real issue in our country, a couple of ride alongs would mean nothing. Right now, the entire country is talking about it. Like his method or not, change for the better will come about because of it.
That's your response? Anti American? He brings up an otherwise pertinent and relevant fact, something that pertains to the history and roots of this country, and your response is anti American? You must be originally from the South circa late 50's early 60's who sicced the dogs and turned on the water hoses!
It is only made an issue when someone is forced to stand for it.
They should also drop the "under god" part that was added later.