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That's interesting, as my son graduated from the "top-20" U. of Maryland Smith School of business and had a similar experience. He really liked the University, but was very disappointed in the level of instruction at the B School, as well as their placement efforts.
might also be a business school thing. At many schools it’s known as a job factory but instruction is often lacking and sometimes even the tests and grading can be a joke
 
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kapyoche

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I unfortunately got my Masters in CS degree in AI little too early. There was no demand in this in the 90s. I even did my Masters project on expert systems. I learned both Lisp and Prolog on my own. Are they even used today? It was all C/C++, Sybase/Oracle and X Windows at that time if you wanted to get good jobs, especially on WS.
 

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My cousin's kid is very into computer science, the software behind AI, computer engineering and robotics. He looked very closely at Carnegie Mellon, and he and his Dad (my cousin) told me Carnegie Mellon is widely acknowledged as the #1 Computer Science/Computer Engineering school in the US.

HOWEVER ... they were advised by several Computer Engineers and AI people they knew, who ALL said that it was GRADUATE STUDIES work that developed the skills in AI, Computer Engineering and Computer Science more than UNDERGRADUATE work.

My cousin's son is at Yale, now, though he was accepted to Carnegie Mellon - he decided he would have broader educational opportunities at a school that had a broader range of outstanding programs, rather than the exceptional Computer-related programs at Carnegie Mellon ... and yes, he chose between CM and Yale.
It's nice to have such a tough choice between those two schools.
Did not think Yale was one of the top CS/CE Ivies. Thought that in no particular order, Cornell, Princeton, Columbia, Harvard and Penn were tops amongst Ivies.
 

Knight Shift

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No offense taken. He got a great job, but it was no thanks to the U. of MD.
Makes it all the more gratifying. RU Career services was no help in the 1980's and Seton Hall Law was little to no help in the 1990's. Hustling and networking always resulted in jobs.
 
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StyleKnight

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For what it’s worth, a friend is going to Hopkins for Computer Engineering, she interned this summer between sophomore and junior year and made $60/hour. I still don’t know why she went back to school this fall.
 
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RUinBoston

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There's one down the road from my house here in Cambridge claims to be god at CS...can't remember what it's called. Massachusetts Institute of somethingorother?
 

RobertG

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I'm going reply to this thinking, not the specific post.

The thing with technology is its ever changing. As should be obvious of you think about your computer /phone. Trying to stay up to date is hard, and if you need to find a new job & have out dated skills it can be hard.

However, getting into management, design, sales, product etc. Is very easy and will naturally come. The industry is hungry for experienced people. The risk is you might find yourself at a position change in your 50's and not be hirable. You will get 20 years of work without a problem if your competent. After they is murky.

As for salaries, out of college you can get six figures from a top school and 70+ from an okay school with an undergrad. While people aren't making 250 an hour like in y2k days, it is still a well posting career that gets into 6 figures with out a problem.

I am title a Senior Softeware Developer at 13 years out of college, but do more design docs then coding personally.Ihave also done manager role at prior jobs.

Being in my 50's the point of getting into Management Sales etc is to insulate your self from the constant changes in the field. Sure you will have to learn Agile or the latest process, and you will have to keep up with the technologies but it will save you from having to lean the intricacies of a new language that the kids coming out of college or india already know.
 

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Being in my 50's the point of getting into Management Sales etc is to insulate your self from the constant changes in the field. Sure you will have to learn Agile or the latest process, and you will have to keep up with the technologies but it will save you from having to lean the intricacies of a new language that the kids coming out of college or india already know.
My nephew graduated CS Rutgers about 18 years ago with terrible grades. Now, he is doing well in software sales and he got his wife, HS degree, into sales and she always winning the annual sale trip for top sales rep. I guess my nephew is better at communications and people skills than IT skills.
 
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