OT: Coaching Carousel 2019

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

The Athletic reporting that MSU doubled his assistant salary pool at Colorado which was 3.15M, more than doubled his 2.7M salary and increased the pool for S&C staff. Tucker was transparent with the CU AD from the start to finish.

Colorado's opening will be #12 in the P5 this offseason.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Wonder if Colorado will try and go after Eric Bienemy. Considering he's been passed over in the NFL and he's a Colorado alum (less likely to leave) he would be a logical and possibly realistic option.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

McElwain could be a name for Colorado after his pretty good stint at CSU and Leavitt as well after his time as DC at Colorado.

Harsin (seems unrealistic to me), Jones, Helfrich, Pagano are other names I've seen mentioned.

 

[MADHAT1]

MSU shows money can make a convincing argument .
But in the world of College sports , money usually is the reason to change minds of head coaches and locations they coach.

>Though the optics of Tucker’s sudden change of heart are awkward at best, it would be silly to criticize him for being disloyal. As one coach who recently got a mind-blowing contract told me, you might only have real leverage in these situations a few times in your life so you better take advantage. As Michigan State’s search for Mark Dantonio’s replacement became increasingly desperate, Tucker had it and used it. Good for him. <

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...nderscores-imbalance-ncaa-ignores/4735090002/

 

[MADHAT1]

Wonder if Colorado will try and go after Eric Bienemy. Considering he's been passed over in the NFL and he's a Colorado alum (less likely to leave) he would be a logical and possibly realistic option.

Bienemy's name seems to be one many of the Colorado fans want and Bieniemy spent two seasons as offensive coordinator at Colorado under head coach Jon Embree in 2011 and 2012. Even if those teams were terrible, Eric seems to be fondly remembered by the Colorado fanbase.
Put that with being the OC of the NFL Super Bowl Champ Chiefs, Colorado's AD might make Tucker's loss look like a gain.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Bienemy's name seems to be one many of the Colorado fans want and Bieniemy spent two seasons as offensive coordinator at Colorado under head coach Jon Embree in 2011 and 2012. Even if those teams were terrible, Eric seems to be fondly remembered by the Colorado fanbase.
Put that with being the OC of the NFL Super Bowl Champ Chiefs, Colorado's AD might make Tucker's loss look like a gain.

I don't know if he'd be as fondly remembered and wanted if not for his success in the NFL with Mahomes. It depends on how much he's improved but I don't follow the NFL enough anymore to know how much of a contributor he is to the Chiefs even though I've read Reid etc..give him credit. How long has he been passed over? I know this year that was a big thing but has he been a strong candidate before for NFL HC positions? If so then maybe he'd leave for Colorado but if this is only a recent thing where he's been passed over then maybe he'll have a little more patience in the NFL for next year.

Just like MSU, think McElwain would be a solid option possibly Leavitt too. Harsin I'm not so sure about the realism and other names mentioned seem more eh to me.

 

[Knight Shift]

Wonder if Colorado will try and go after Eric Bienemy. Considering he's been passed over in the NFL and he's a Colorado alum (less likely to leave) he would be a logical and possibly realistic option.

Joe Moorhead and Butch Jones. (and Bo Pelini!!!).

 

[RUevolution36]

I don't know if he'd be as fondly remembered and wanted if not for his success in the NFL with Mahomes. It depends on how much he's improved but I don't follow the NFL enough anymore to know how much of a contributor he is to the Chiefs even though I've read Reid etc..give him credit. How long has he been passed over? I know this year that was a big thing but has he been a strong candidate before for NFL HC positions? If so then maybe he'd leave for Colorado but if this is only a recent thing where he's been passed over then maybe he'll have a little more patience in the NFL for next year.

Just like MSU, think McElwain would be a solid option possibly Leavitt too. Harsin I'm not so sure about the realism and other names mentioned seem more eh to me.

Bieniemy has been at least in the conversation for interviews since 2018 as far as i can recall. Might have been even before then. It's still amazing to me that teams will still pick failed, recycled coaches instead of giving him a shot. i.e., Adam Gase.

 

[MADHAT1]

Bieniemy has been at least in the conversation for interviews since 2018 as far as i can recall. Might have been even before then. It's still amazing to me that teams will still pick failed, recycled coaches instead of giving him a shot. i.e., Adam Gase.

one article I read said:
Bieniemy has done interviews for five or six NFL head coaching openings over the past two seasons but to no avail.
edit: here's link
https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/202...or-university-of-colorado-head-coach-vacancy/


This article lists some candidates that might be in the mix
Colorado coaching candidates: Eric Bieniemy, Bryan Harsin lead replacements for Mel Tucker - CBSSports.com
https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...ryan-harsin-lead-replacements-for-mel-tucker/

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

one article I read said:
Bieniemy has done interviews for five or six NFL head coaching openings over the past two seasons but to no avail.
edit: here's link
https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/202...or-university-of-colorado-head-coach-vacancy/


This article lists some candidates that might be in the mix
Colorado coaching candidates: Eric Bieniemy, Bryan Harsin lead replacements for Mel Tucker - CBSSports.com
https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...ryan-harsin-lead-replacements-for-mel-tucker/

Harrell was a name that crossed my mind too but might be a little to green for them.

 

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These recruiter assistant types (not coordinators) seem to be getting more play lately for HC positions. Also a Spartan staff member finding at landing spot as co-DC at IU.

 

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Despite reports Tucker was letting the whole staff go a couple are staying and one that was suppose to be leaving for IU as co-DC is also staying.

 

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[RUSK97]

Sounds like Brett Bielema getting some interview face time in Boulder.

 

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https://footballscoop.com/news/update-at-colorado/

Sounds like Brett Bielema getting some interview face time in Boulder.

Sources have indicated that CU hoped to speak with (in no particular order) Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy, former Wisconsin and Arkansas head coach Bret Bielema, Central Michigan head coach Jim McElwain, Alabama offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian, Arkansas State head coach Blake Anderson, Cal head coach Justin Wilcox, as well as current interim head coach Darrin Chiaverini.

Sources told FootballScoop that Colorado conducted phone interviews over the past few days and planned to move to the in-person stage this week. NFL Network and ESPN reported Monday that Bielema will sit for an interview.

Other candidates could emerge as the search progresses. A number of former Power 5 head coaches have expressed their interest, sources say, and the search could work its way to any one of them if Colorado comes up empty elsewhere.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Looks like Charlie Strong has checked in at the Saban halfway house. Will be an analyst at Alabama.

From the article:

Strong, who's had head coaching stops at Louisville, Texas and South Florida, has agreed to a deal to become a defensive analyst at Alabama under Saban, sources told ESPN. Several other SEC schools had expressed interest in hiring Strong in a coordinator and/or analyst role since his ouster at South Florida following the 2019 season.

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...charlie-strong-joins-nick-saban-staff-alabama

 

[Knight Shift]

Looks like Charlie Strong has checked in at the Saban halfway house. Will be an analyst at Alabama.

From the article:

Strong, who's had head coaching stops at Louisville, Texas and South Florida, has agreed to a deal to become a defensive analyst at Alabama under Saban, sources told ESPN. Several other SEC schools had expressed interest in hiring Strong in a coordinator and/or analyst role since his ouster at South Florida following the 2019 season.

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...charlie-strong-joins-nick-saban-staff-alabama

Charlie is 59. Looks like he still wants to be in the game and still be a head coach since he (may have) passed up coordinator opportunities?

Wonder how long Kyle Flood stays at the Saban former head coach rehabilitation clinic.

EDIT-and is Butch Jones still in the Saban clinic? His Wikipedia pages indicates yes.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Charlie is 59. Looks like he still wants to be in the game and still be a head coach since he (may have) passed up coordinator opportunities?

Wonder how long Kyle Flood stays at the Saban former head coach rehabilitation clinic.

EDIT-and is Butch Jones still in the Saban clinic? His Wikipedia pages indicates yes.

Well I haven't seen Jones get any HC or coordinator jobs so I'm guessing yes.

 

[Knight Shift]

Well I haven't seen Jones get any HC or coordinator jobs so I'm guessing yes.

Guessing Charlie could comfortably retire at this point. Perhaps in his mind, he has unfinished work.

Interesting summary of his work at USF:
"The Bulls started the 2018 season 7-0 before going 4-14 in Strong's last 18 games. He was 0-6 versus ranked teams in his three years at USF."

"Storng received $5 million this season - a $2.5 million salary and $2.5 million retention bonus. That made him the 16th-highest-paid coach in Division I-A and the highest-paid coach in the Group of Five conferences, according to USA Today."
https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/post/usf-fires-football-coach-charlie-strong

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Guessing Charlie could comfortably retire at this point. Perhaps in his mind, he has unfinished work.

Interesting summary of his work at USF:
"The Bulls started the 2018 season 7-0 before going 4-14 in Strong's last 18 games. He was 0-6 versus ranked teams in his three years at USF."

"Storng received $5 million this season - a $2.5 million salary and $2.5 million retention bonus. That made him the 16th-highest-paid coach in Division I-A and the highest-paid coach in the Group of Five conferences, according to USA Today."
https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/post/usf-fires-football-coach-charlie-strong

I don't know if it's unfinished work as much it's just in their blood....they've been coaching for how many decades as a day to day thing and unless they replace it with something it's hard to stay away for some. Doesn't have to be as HC but just being involved...didn't Bryant die some months after retiring. Miles/Brown/Graham/Davis back in the game even though they certainly don't need the money.

I've seen people here sometimes mention one last big payday for these older coaches that come back....IMO for these guys who have already made their big paydays it's not money just the desire to still be a part of the game and competitive spirit that motivates them.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Also Mike Stoops close to joining his brother Mark at UK. Seems lately he can't get a spot a school where the HC isn't named Stoops as well.

https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-mike-stoops-close-to-joining-kentucky-staff/

 

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[bitnez]

While not ideal Colorado should stick with the interim HC for this season, see what happens and revisit. If he does well you sign him to a long term deal toward the end of next season. Otherwise, wait until you have a better group of candidates at the end of next season.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

I’ve mentioned both these Leach tree guys. Harrell may be a little green but I think Grinch could be good. He has the potential to put together a solid defense to go along with a spread offense as he’s demonstrated both at WSU and OU. He’s likely to have plenty of connections to fill that OC role too.

 

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CUSportsNation

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Add another name to the list of candidates Rick George is looking to interview for the Colorado head coaching job: Baltimore Ravens' offensive coordinator Greg Roman

edit to add this from football scoop because Ash is mentioned
Texas regents have approved contracts for several assistant coaches Brian Davis has shared. Mike Yurcich gets a 3 year deal at $1.7 million per year. Chris Ash has a two year deal worth $800,000. Jay Boulware (special teams / tight ends) gets a three year deal at $700,000 per year and Coleman Hutzler (linebackers) gets a two year deal at $600,000 per. Real money.

 

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CUSportsNation

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Add another name to the list of candidates Rick George is looking to interview for the Colorado head coaching job: Baltimore Ravens' offensive coordinator Greg Roman

edit to add this from football scoop because Ash is mentioned
Texas regents have approved contracts for several assistant coaches Brian Davis has shared. Mike Yurcich gets a 3 year deal at $1.7 million per year. Chris Ash has a two year deal worth $800,000. Jay Boulware (special teams / tight ends) gets a three year deal at $700,000 per year and Coleman Hutzler (linebackers) gets a two year deal at $600,000 per. Real money.

Well there you go like I've said in the other thread it was plausible they'd pay him less than 1M because they don't have to...figured it could even go as low as 500K....similar to what Chad Morris got at Auburn around 700K+ where other SEC coordinators and some position coaches were making more. Morris is still being paid by Arkansas.

 

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EDIT-and is Butch Jones still in the Saban clinic? His Wikipedia pages indicates yes.

Just came across this....Butch is moving up in the world lol.

From an article:

Former Cincinnati and Tennessee head coach Butch Jones is moving up the ranks on the Alabama football staff. Jones will be promoted from analyst to special assistant to the head coach, according to a report from Al.com.

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcspor...butch-jones-special-assistant-nick-saban/amp/

 

[MADHAT1]

Butch might be special assistant to the HC, but titles are sometimes deceiving.
Think Saban is just trying to make Jones look better and land a HC job in the near future and the Special Assistant title might look better on his resume.
Unless SA counts as a assistant position on staff like a position coach, it's just a fancy title (in my opinion) for being one of the analyst on staff.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Butch might be special assistant to the HC, but titles are sometimes deceiving.
Think Saban is just trying to make Jones look better and land a HC job in the near future and the Special Assistant title might look better on his resume.
Unless SA counts as a assistant position on staff like a position coach, it's just a fancy title (in my opinion) for being one of the analyst on staff.

I think it all falls under support staff. Maybe he's been promoted from copy boy to coffee boy for Saban lol.

I believe analysts/quality control coaches used to be limited to around a 50K salary....not sure about the rest of the support staff. I've seen some quality control coaches/analysts with slighty higher salaries so not sure if that cap still exists but they still remain in the 5 figure range.

 

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[MADHAT1]

13 years since he was UCLA's HC
35-27 in his 5 years as the Bruins HC
10-2 in 2005 ranked 13 in coach's and 16 AP that year, also won Sun Bowl
That was the only bowl win and wound up with a 1-4 bowl game record

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

5yr/18M dollar deal for Dorell. Increase in both salary for the HC and assistant pool vs Tucker. Average per year would put him at 3rd in the PAC12 when comparing to 2019 PAC12 salaries.

https://footballscoop.com/news/heres-how-much-colorado-will-pay-karl-dorrell/

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

This is the guy Lane Kiffin tried to pry away with a position coach spot but couldn't looks like Smart has. I think he's been at Alabama with Saban from the beginning or very close to it and one of the longest tenured members of his Alabama staff.





Snippet from the article:

Smart likely will roll his eyes as we draw the obvious logical conclusion, but Cochran wouldn’t make this move if he didn’t want to be a head coach. No strength coach has been hired out of the weight room to run a program, but Cochran could find himself qualified for head coaching jobs if he can prove himself capable in one new area.

If Cochran can excel as a recruiter at Georgia — his new role allows him to recruit off-campus, but his old one did not — he could be on the fast track to becoming a head coach. He already understands how to build and maintain the architecture of a championship program. If he proves as much of a hit with five-star players before they sign as he already is after they do, then he would only be a few good assistant coach hires away from having all the tools to build a winning program. If that happened, it might create an entirely new track to becoming a head coach. The charisma and ability to connect with players that made Cochran such a great strength coach likely will help him forge relationships in recruiting. The personality that inspired pump-up videos that aired on the video boards at Bryant-Denny Stadium should be just as effective in the living room with mom and dad. Cochran’s ability to point to a horde of top NFL players who swear by his methods also won’t hurt his pursuit of top recruits.

 

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