OT: Chicken Pox
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This is a long discussion. The one question that hasn't come up yet is how does the family that will be in the same house with them feel? You really need to all get together and really just tell these folks they are not coming. I wouldn't worry about losing a friend obviously you could get a better one. Otherwise suck it up and stay home IT'S YOUR FAMILY!!
Anyone paying for guidance from Ty Bollinger should also consult with their neighborhood palm reader for knowledge. Guy is nothing but a husker who claims people get cancer because they have sinned!!!!!! No medical education & the guy is making a living selling his books & his videos & herbs to "cure" cancer, nothing but a quack who profits on the fears of others.
Similarly, Bac, I have never had the mumps to my knowledge. But my doctor thinks I must have had an extremely mild case as a child -- I am born in 1951 and the mumps were widespread. That may well be true of you and the chickenpox. I urge you to have the shingles vaccine at 60 anyway.
My father, 94, had shingles last month running around like he couldn't spread it. He did go to the doctor because of the pain.
I check with my Dad and never had measles or chicken pox. I guess I, 61, will get shingle shot just in case.
people are crazy if they don't get the shingles shot--the pain of shingles is extreme,will take weeks to subside and can affect your nerve endings (long term) --besides all you need to do is to stop by a CVS---and those kids whose sibling has chicken pox can unfairly spread a disease--also most of the pain of shingles doesn't easily subside even with opioids
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Is it better in some way to get chicken pox as a kid? If you don't, you don't get natural immunity and so may get it as an adult. If you get it as an adult it can be very serious and leave scarring. I never got as a kid and every ten years or so I need to remember to get re-vaccinated as the protection of the vaccine wears off.
The advantage of never having chicken pox is you won't get shingles as an adult, and shingles can be terribly painful.
The advantage of never having chicken pox is you won't get shingles as an adult, and shingles can be terribly painful.
If you get chicken pox as an adult it's no laughing matter. It can cause an extremely serious pneumonia. That doesn't happen in children (generally speaking)
even if you had chicken pox in your youth, you certainly can get shingles later in life--my son had it at 5 and got a somewhat mild , although painful, case of shingles at 21--it's totally dumb not get the shot around 50 or older (use to recommend over 60)---if you get them on your *** or balls--good luck to you
You can only get shingles if you had chicken pox. You don't get shingles if you never had chicken pox.
Below is everything you need to know about the chicken pox and shingles vaccines, from the CDC, followed by a link which does a nice job explaining the difference between chicken pox and shingles. Bottom line is to just get them and not listen to anti-vaccine quacks out there.
I actually never had chicken pox as a child, but got the Varivax vaccine for chicken pox a couple of years after it became available in the US in 1995. I then contracted chicken pox in 2000, but fortunately, it was a mild case, which is typical for those who get the vaccine, even adults. I will get the Shingles vaccine when I'm 60, which is the currently recommended age - it's not 100% effective, but it lessens the severity of Shingles for people who develop it after vaccination.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/shingles/public/index.html
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/varicella/index.html
http://www.shinglesexpert.org/shingles-and-chicken-pox
I actually never had chicken pox as a child, but got the Varivax vaccine for chicken pox a couple of years after it became available in the US in 1995. I then contracted chicken pox in 2000, but fortunately, it was a mild case, which is typical for those who get the vaccine, even adults. I will get the Shingles vaccine when I'm 60, which is the currently recommended age - it's not 100% effective, but it lessens the severity of Shingles for people who develop it after vaccination.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/shingles/public/index.html
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/varicella/index.html
http://www.shinglesexpert.org/shingles-and-chicken-pox
I think we are on the same page - Not only do you not get immunity from shingles if you had chicken pox, it is the opposite - you can only get shingles if, in fact, you have had chicken pox. If you never had chicken pox, you don't have the virus in you that can trigger shingles, so if you never had chicken pox you will not get shingles.
It's was just my luck to have my bout of both chickenpox and mumps during my Junior year of High School.
I think you mean Measles.
http://www.euro.who.int/en/media-ce...-europe-threaten-progress-towards-elimination
Does the chickenpox vaccine contain a form of the chickenpox virus similar to you taking the flu vaccine? If so, would that then make you susceptible to shingles later in life?
I don't know, but I can tell you that many people who never had the vaccine have developed shingles. Remember that we sixty-plusers had chicken pox (the vaccine wasn't developed yet), and shingles is a risk for us. At age 60, get the vaccine whether or not you think you had chicken pox.
Both the chickenpox and shingles vaccines contain the same attenuated virus but a much different levels of potency. It is a very effective vaccine and made by Merck in both West Point and Durham. I recommend you read the CDC links above. I don't want this thread to drive me off the deep end like the flu vaccine one from last year.
When in doubt remember vaccines take in average 10 -15 year to get to market and the clinical trials are extensive for safety, Potency, efficacy, quality, etc.
Perhaps you should brush up on the actual science and data before spouting off highly inaccurate information - can't stand when people simply make **** up. While chicken pox certainly wasn't a "death sentence" before the vaccine, deaths and hospitalizations from the pre-vaccine to post-vaccine days are down in the 90% range, summarized very succintly in this sentence from the CDC:
"Each year, more than 3.5 million cases of varicella, 9,000 hospitalizations, and 100 deaths are prevented by varicella vaccination in the United States."
https://www.cdc.gov/chickenpox/surveillance/monitoring-varicella.html
My understanding is if you never had chicken pox, and just had the chicken pox vaccine, you will not develop shingles. (This is my situation so would appreciate knowing if I am wrong on this)
Take the chance or get the f'in shingles shot. Your choice. Mine was to get the shingles shot.
Please. If you are going to make it out like this guys kid is gonna die from chicken pox you are the one spouting BS. Who dies from chicken pox? Adults are what 20 times more likely to die from chicken pox? We are talking About people with very weak immune systems. I'd imagine if his kid fell into that group he wouldn't be sharing a house with multiple families to begin with.
Was going to post the same the guy is a quack. Vaccines are the greatest medical invention ever. Do you realize how many millions of lives they have saved?
What does the kid from the original post have to do with what you posted above or my reply? Deflection isn't a good look. I'd prefer you simply admit you were wrong about your implication that nobody ever died from chicken pox before the vaccine and move on to another topic.
I would if I was wrong but I'm not. Where did I say nobody ever died from chicken pox. That's right I didn't. I simply said people were talking about it like it was some death sentence and it's not. As if the family was showing up after their kid had Ebola. Newsflash, his kid is in school every year with siblings of those afflicted with the dreaded chicken pox.
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Ummmm pretty sure everyone who read that survived. White walkers aren't on until 9pm tonight.
Varicella is a highly infectious disease that is preventable by vaccine. Before vaccine licensure in 1995, ∼4 million cases per year resulted in ⩽9300 hospitalizations [1] and 100 deaths each year [2].
100 deaths out of 4,00,000 cases is not a big number unless your child is one of the hundred
100 deaths out of 4,00,000 cases is not a big number unless your child is one of the hundred
Please let me know what section the chickenpox family will be sitting in on Friday, so I can decide whether or not to come to the game.
Born in 61 and never had chicken pox mild or any type. Got Varivax shot twice and supposedly will never get them now. I was also told I can never have shingles if I never had chicken pox so hopefully that's correct since I have enough other crap wrong with me lol.
This is exactly what I was thinking. They will have 3 with Chicken Pocks before you hit the road. That family isn't going. They just don't know it yet.
I'm 62 and have not gotten the shingles vaccine yet. I keep putting it off because I am a procrastinator. This morning I woke up and realized that the itch on my back for the last 2 days is now an itchy shingles rash. A word of advice, if you are over 60, stop procrastinating and get the vaccine.