OT: Bourbon/Whiskey

WhiteBus

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any body try Jos A Magnus Murray Hill Club Whiskey?
Must be strong. You are repeating yourself.
 

bigmatt718

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Lately I've been on an Irish Whiskey kick. Red Breast 12 and Green Spot primarily. Although my go to is still Knob Creek Single Barrel Reserve.
 

rufan3860

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Laphroaig is def an aquired taste. I'm interested in trying Lagavulin 16. I had Angel's Envy Rye tonight. was great.
 

bigmatt718

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Any bourbon lovers should try to seek out Weller's. They're like the poor man's Pappy. Heavily wheated bourbon so it has a milder profile and is sweeter than bourbons with a high rye element.
 
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rufan3860

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Any bourbon lovers should try to seek out Weller's. They're like the poor man's Pappy. Heavily wheated bourbon so it has a milder profile and is sweeter than bourbons with a high rye element.

Weller's are equally as hard to find as Pappy. And if you find Weller you will still pay ridiculous prices for it. Weller 12, a bottle that sells for $24 in Texas, is at my local Shop Rite liquors for $399.
 

JBL7979

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You can find Old Weller Antique (107 proof) sometimes. Weller 12 is not distributed here. For me personally, I find Weller 12 and Pappy 15+ too aged/subdued. For wheaters, I prefer OWA with the high proof and less aging, or much easier to find Maker's Mark Barrel Proof. Can usually score a bottle of that around 55. Great stuff, and I don't even really like the regular Maker's. Larceny is OK too.
 

JBL7979

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I like Templeton Rye.

FYI - Templeton Rye is just an MGP sourced rye. So other popular ryes like Bulleit, George Dickel, and Redemption source from MGP. They're essentially all the same juice, although you get some slight variations between these brands. Other top notch ryes like Angel's Envy, Whistlepig, and my favorite High West also source from MGP but more often mix with their own or other sourced juices.

The problem with Templeton is this case: https://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/ct-templeton-rye-settlement-20150714-story.html
They were lying on their labels about the recipe/source for a very long time, which is a huge no-no in the American Whiskey world. So basically if you bought Templeton over Bulleit based on the label, you were burning 10-15 bucks for no reason. Same stuff!
 

RuSnp

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You can find Old Weller Antique (107 proof) sometimes. Weller 12 is not distributed here. For me personally, I find Weller 12 and Pappy 15+ too aged/subdued. For wheaters, I prefer OWA with the high proof and less aging, or much easier to find Maker's Mark Barrel Proof. Can usually score a bottle of that around 55. Great stuff, and I don't even really like the regular Maker's. Larceny is OK too.
Only times Ive seen OWA (not often) it is $100+. Forget about Weller 12 or PYCB or WLW - they are the equivalent of finding a unicorn.
 

JBL7979

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Only times Ive seen OWA (not often) it is $100+. Forget about Weller 12 or PYCB or WLW - they are the equivalent of finding a unicorn.

Gotta know where to look ;)

I've gotten OWA at retail multiple times this past year. Lawrencville Joe Canal's and Bayway in Elizabeth.
 

RuSnp

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Gotta know where to look ;)

I've gotten OWA at retail multiple times this past year. Lawrencville Joe Canal's and Bayway in Elizabeth.
Very nice. It's a good deal at inflated prices - retail is just ridiculous.
 

RU_Planning

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I picked up a bottle of Hillrock Bourbon this summer on my way to Saratoga. Pricey but I thought it was good.
 

AntiG

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I think Laphroaig stopped making this. I've got a bottle that I still have not opened yet. Hopefully I get to it soon.
didn't hear about that. I still have a little left from my original bottle and one other bottle that I got relatively cheap ($65) since it was really good. Might be that the inventory ran out since it obviously takes a long time to create and age the whisky and young folks with money have revived the whisky industry over the past 15 years or so (I read that at one point in the 80s the demand dropped so much that many distilleries started going out of business), hence also why the prices have skyrocketed as well for the bottlings over 12 years and there are more blended year single malts of the same specific whisky and blended single malts of several whiskies out there now. Makes sense since this was the case with myself and many of my friends - in college you just throw anything back, but after a few years you gain a refined taste and start understanding more and more what is good out there. Its not as much of an issue with the Bourbon/American whiskey industry because their average aging is between 1-6 years, but for Scottish and Japanese in particular there is no way to keep up with the demand for 12+ years anymore without selling multiyear blends (which usually are excellent anyway, and great for our wallets). The Taiwanese (Kavalan) have a great advantage now due to extremely high demand, winning top awards annually, and having a humid climate and the best mountain waters which allow for the highest quality single malts to be produced in basically third of the time. They are super expensive in the US due to tariffs, but this may change down the line due to increasing economic partnering between the US and Taiwan. However Kavalan (King Car Group) is still tiny in production (and probably we are better off that way since often expansion leads to taking shortcuts) compared to the powerful Suntory conglomerate that owns like half of the brands out there now.
 
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Found 2 bottles of Weller full proof recently at the local shop rite. Bought 1 should’ve bought 2
 

JBL7979

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The "wheater" bubble is bursting. Buffalo Trace realizes that people are just buying all the Weller, and reselling at higher prices where they can. So they have two options: Raise prices or make more. I think you're seeing a bit of #1 and a lot of #2. Like I said above - Maker's Cask is great at that price point. I'd get a bottle of the Weller Full, but if its going for much higher than MMCS, meh.
 

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Postman_1

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These are my newest Ardbeg pickups.

The Traigh Bhan is a new addition to there core range it's a 19 year old that will have a new batch number every year along with some slight changes. Probably just marketing by them to sell more. The Supernova is back this year it was sold originally I believe from 2010 to 2015.



 

Postman_1

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Balvenie 14 Caribbean Cask tongight. This got better from when I first opened it. Anyone having anything tonight on Thanksgiving Eve?
 

RutgersDom

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What's your favorite whiskey and what liquor store has the best selection?

As of this writing my favorite is High West's Campire found at Stew Leonard's (although it is not uncommon). One of the clerks said they had been allocated three bottle of Elmer T Lee and ran out the first day.
Basil Hayden - not hard to find. Bottle king. Excellent. Smooth
 
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Postman_1

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Having some Glendronach 18 year old Allardice tonight. Its a great Christmas time scotch.
 

bigmatt718

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I've got a few Knob Creek Single Barrel Store Pick Bourbons from the South Jersey Bourbon Club. One 9 year and a 15 year. The 15 is incredible.
 
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JBL7979

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I've got a few Knob Creek Single Barrel Store Pick Bourbons from the South Jersey Bourbon Club. One 9 year and a 15 year. The 15 is incredible.

Sounds awesome. Since they raised the price on Booker's, I've moved more towards the KCSB, and the store picks always deliver.
 
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rufan3860

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Sounds awesome. Since they raised the price on Booker's, I've moved more towards the KCSB, and the store picks always deliver.

I picked up a Knob Creek store pick aged 14 yrs and 9 months and I prefer it over Booker's, Basil, and Baker's 7. KC is a great bang for your buck.

The local liquor store has started placing Eagle Rare and Buffalo Trace in the glass case now, so I'm sure they will disappear just like Blanton's. I'm starting to think KC will become my workhorse.
 

Scarletnut

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You all should watch the documentary on Amazon Prime called Scotch. It’s about 90 minutes and really well done, all filmed in Scotland.
 

RuSnp

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I picked up a Knob Creek store pick aged 14 yrs and 9 months and I prefer it over Booker's, Basil, and Baker's 7. KC is a great bang for your buck.

The local liquor store has started placing Eagle Rare and Buffalo Trace in the glass case now, so I'm sure they will disappear just like Blanton's. I'm starting to think KC will become my workhorse.
Man if those are behind glass just put the whole damn store behind glass.