OT: Alternative Energy
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The first offshore wind farm in the US is being built off the coast of Martha's Vineyard , finally. They should stick a big one right in front of the Kennedy's compound
How many times have people invented a alternative energy that would revolutionize the way the globe powers up just to have it disappear or that inventor ends up dying in a car crash or has a heart attack in his or her hotel room , there will never be a cheap way to power up my friends the people in charge won’t let that happen, and that is just an opinion.
I'll have solar on my roof when ConEd replaces my roof, installs the panels, pays me monthly rent for the space and gives me free power. They can keep the excess power generated.
New reactors can run on waste from old reactors and they are passively safe so no need to have power generators running to prevent a meltdown. If the reaction isn't controlled properly, it just shuts down.
We have plenty of innovations. At this point, it’s political will.
Would someone please remind me what the waste from solar is? I imagine during the production phase, but I don’t recall.
Please! This is a family board!Yes I know I tend to twaddle , probably not the correct post to be twaddling
The majority on Federal Energy Regulatory Commission is now hijacking the regulatory process - which belongs to Congress. They are rewriting regs and daring anyone to stop them. They want crazy regs everywhere, strangled energy and sky high prices
"Last week, the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission changed the rules about pending and future natural gas pipelines and related projects, citing the threat of catastrophic climate change and raising environmental justice concerns. "
I have been in the solar business since 2009. Here are a few things I've learned and would like to share. Never enter into a lease for solar. You will have a 20 year contract with little benefit, a one year warranty on your roof, annual escalations in rates, usually 2.9% annually and difficulty when selling your home. Who signs a 36 page lease and who wants to assume it when buying a house?Buy the system or don't go solar. If your solar developer cannot get you an ROI of 6 years or less, you've selected the wrong company. Between the federal tax credit, savings on electric, and revenue from TREC's, a 6 year ROI should be the max. When selling your home, it's easier to sell a house with free electric and it will also command a higher price. You could also sell your house and keep the TREC's revenue moving forward or negotiate it's value with the sale. They generate for 15 years. Battery back-ups are a fad and extremely expensive for the number of times you'll need emergency power. Also, as Electric Vehicles become more prolific, you'll be able to use the batteries in the car to serve as your storage batteries and send the power to your home. Until that happens, a generator is a better investment. If you'd like more information e-mail me at [email protected].
Solar is the future, not wind, not nuclear, and certainly not fossil fuels. But it’s not there yet, many problems that have been mentioned in this thread. Until we get there we need to be working on new Nuclear. And nuclear wast disposal. Fossil fuels are a thing of the past. One of the things I agree with the dens on it’s a move away from a reliance on fossil fuels. They are paid for the environment, expensive and probably have an impact of peoples health.
Really ? You believe that ?
Crazy regs and sky-high prices ?
Daring anyone to stop them ?
Please stop with the nonsense.
Yeah, they've only been working on nuclear disposal for 70 years. I'm sure the government can solve it, lol....
"Under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Coal-powered plants, you know, natural gas, you name it, whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers." - BO
New DC crews first actions were to signal a war on domestic energy. Foreign producers (including Russia) knew they would be rolling in the green. Everybody got to control their output and raise their prices
Recent research paper published by Stanford.
Zero air pollution and zero carbon from all energy at low cost and without blackouts in variable weather throughout the U.S. with 100% wind-water-solar and storage
Zero air pollution and zero carbon from all energy at low cost and without blackouts in variable weather throughout the U.S. with 100% wind-water-solar and storage
Covering the parking lots with Solar is fantastic for Rutgers...great when you park your car there and there's way less snow on it after a storm. Keeps your car cooler, etc. If every major mall parking lot was covered in solar, you could massively increase energy input with no additional land usage. That said, for an example, all of Rutgers' solar panels supply approximately six percent of the school' energy. If solar panels were a requirement for all new commercial buildings, it could be huge for the grid. There's just so much wasted space.
And how would those malls, which are not exactly experiencing boom times, pay not only the panels but the roofing and structure?
Lease it with an underwriter, the way Rutgers did, where there's 0 upfront cost.
The sun is the greatest energy source in our solar system by some ridiculously exponential sum. So yeah its 100%. You need to expand your time frame, but we need to continue to study and advance our ability to harness the power of the sun for the benefit of all civilization and mankind.
That would make CCP unhappy and they are paying the bills in DC
In a single hour, the amount of power from the sun that strikes the Earth is more than the entire world consumes in an year. To put that in numbers, from the US Department of Energy: Each hour 430 quintillion Joules of energy from the sun hits the Earth.
I've had a solar rooftop system for seven years. Zero problems. No on battery storage - yet.
Congress can't agree on a $2tn package... how do you expect them to help subsidize $8 or 9tn in capital costs for upgrading the whole infrastructure?
Everywhere out here in Hunterdon County. Farmland is being replaced by panels. Nationwide.
I looked into solar for my house and got several quotes. The best one that replaced 100% of my monthly KWT usage had a ROI of 11 years (inclusive of current federal subsidies). Great deal for the next person to own my home unless there are huge rebates passed again...(and I'll stop there to adhere to the OPs request on politics
I live in a sunny part of California, which is to say the actual sunniest place on Earth. California also has electrical/gas rates. My payoff has taken seven years. I'll bet the difference for you is in the number of hours of effective sunlight. In any case, a 9 or 10% rate of return on an investment isn't a bad deal - although the upfront costs are daunting. Folks might also consider getting solar when its time to replace the roof.
California has never been reliant on coal.
I'll add that whatever arguments there are for and against nukes need look no further than the recent experiences in South Carolina and Georgia. Nukes are not economical in this country. Period.
Recent experiences of South Carolina and Georgia have nothing to do with shutting down currently operating plants early, such as the Indian Point plant what was supplying 23% of NYCs needs carbon emissions free when there is no storage current capabilty
Had a 9.3Kv system installed near the end of 2017 over a new roof. Black panels with black frame only on the rear. Nearly invisible from the street. Solar Edge inverter, optimizers and Silfab panels. About two years left of a six year payback. Interferes during the day with OTA, Over The Air broadcast TV via antenna directly over the panels. Works as intended. Great investment and helps the environment. No maintenance needed so far.
I have a similar experience.
I had 48 solar panels installed on my roof in 2009 (in my Washington TWP pad, not the Atlantic City one). It had paid for itself by 2015. I now have zero electric bills; the power company credits me for energy I produce but don't use, because it goes back out onto the grid for others to use (this is called "net-metering").
Sometimes people get really political about this. But for me, it's just common sense. Free, clean energy is landing on our planet and just dripping away, wasted. Why not tap it? Solar energy can never be relied on for all of our energy needs, but it can provide a lot more than it currently does...
I'm going to take a very simplesized approach to this--- go watch those off grid videos on youtube and the experience with solar--there's always issues with the storage batteries, where to put them,cooling them,the gases to be vented, the noise ,the constant measuring of the storage and energy use and limitations. Now the interesting part ,they all must have fossil fuel generators as back up. There’s a long way to go with these alternatives ,es if you're not connected to the traditional power grid.
Sorry, RU66, I did not intend to be rude or confrontational. Sorry if I was.
Not arguing these points for this micro-population of off-the grid installations. But I have never understood the knee-jerk reaction of trying to discount all the success stories like mine and others above. Do you think my installation has "a long way to go?"
Sorry for my frustration. I don't know if this is you, but I meet a lot of people who are against solar power and alternative energy, but don't even know why, except that they dislike Al /Gore or something...
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