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It's interesting how oblivious the average person is to what is going on in the military and government. For example, one chapter in a textbook used by the AF Academy in a 400 level advanced Space Aeronautics course states something to the effect of: "Although there is, as yet, no incontrovertible proof, there is overwhelming evidence that the Earth is being visited by four alien races and that the sightings of UFO's represent the sightings of their craft."
 

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I’ve yet to see any paper trails, and I’ve searched about every item out there concerning MIT and Cal Tech. And Lazar has never, ever offered any concrete evidence to prove otherwise other than stating he went to both. I guess there’s that minuscule chance that he did, but I doubt it.

He seems like a smart guy, but a bit of a fibber.
"went to" = "walked through campus one day"?:)
 

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Its a very weird feeling when your brain can't logically explain what you see.
It's beyond weird. It's kind of a haunting experience. I'll never forget that feeling of panic even though I didn't feel like I was in danger. Like you can't believe your own eyes and then get paranoid.
 
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It's interesting how oblivious the average person is to what is going on in the military and government. For example, one chapter in a textbook used by the AF Academy in a 400 level advanced Space Aeronautics course states something to the effect of: "Although there is, as yet, no incontrovertible proof, there is overwhelming evidence that the Earth is being visited by four alien races and that the sightings of UFO's represent the sightings of their craft."

I’m not saying I don’t believe you, but I’d love to see that book.
 
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It's interesting how oblivious the average person is to what is going on in the military and government. For example, one chapter in a textbook used by the AF Academy in a 400 level advanced Space Aeronautics course states something to the effect of: "Although there is, as yet, no incontrovertible proof, there is overwhelming evidence that the Earth is being visited by four alien races and that the sightings of UFO's represent the sightings of their craft."
This is very similar to the Space Aeronautics course:

http://www.thinkaboutit-aliens.com/least-4-known-alien-species-visiting-earth-thousands-years/
 
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There was a video twitter tonight from KC showing a white floating object. The National Weather Service's twitter account said they had no explanations. Makes you wonder.
 

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There here people. Call me drunk or whatever, I know what I saw. I asked him/her if they wanted to come up for a drink but couldn't understand homey.

Oh, I believe you my man. I know that plenty of people fake that crap but there is definitely aliens out there. Way to many sightings and eye whiteness accounts out there to be unreal. Two: how big space is and how many other universes are out there...there is no way in hell that we are the only living life forms out there. It’s truly ignorant to even think we are.
 
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I’m not saying I don’t believe you, but I’d love to see that book.

I don't know if any copies of the textbook still exist. I saw it about 6 years ago when I lived in Colorado Springs. When the Academy found out that one of the textbooks had been shown to interested people and journalists in CS, the Academy, right in the middle of the school year, had all of the students return their books. The Academy then had the textbook reprinted without the controversial chapter, at a cost of some $30,000, and redistributed the new edition. Then the controversial chapter was distributed, exactly as it appeared in the textbook, as a handout in class. I have a copy of the handout.

What is also interesting is that a book that is considered a the firefighter's bible in the military and is used by roughly half the civilian fire departments in the US has a chapter on how to deal with a UFO crash. I have a copy but I'm not going to dig it out now so I am going by memory as to the title being "Fire Officers Guide to Disaster Control'. It has chapters on dealing with plane crashes and space debris from satellites and the like crashing to Earth. The chapter on dealing with a crashed UFO is separate.
 
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I don't know if any copies of the textbook still exist. I saw it about 6 years ago when I lived in Colorado Springs. When the Academy found out that one of the textbooks had been shown to interested people and journalists in CS, the Academy, right in the middle of the school year, had all of the students return their books. The Academy then had the textbook reprinted without the controversial chapter, at a cost of some $30,000, and redistributed the new edition. Then the controversial chapter was distributed, exactly as it appeared in the textbook, as a handout in class. I have a copy of the handout.

What is also interesting is that a book that is considered a the firefighter's bible in the military and is used by roughly half the civilian fire departments in the US has a chapter on how to deal with a UFO crash. I have a copy but I'm not going to dig it out now so I am going by memory as to the title being "Fire Officers Guide to Disaster Control'. It has chapters on dealing with plane crashes and space debris from satellites and the like crashing to Earth. The chapter on dealing with a crashed UFO is separate.

https://www.theblackvault.com/casef...l-chapter-13-enemy-attack-and-ufo-potential/#
 
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I worked early mornings and drove from York to Columbus. I was just about to hit the valley coming down into 7 mile corner when I had a weird feeling come across my body and senses.

Just felt like I was being watched and like a sixth sense that something was odd. I didn't see anything and it passed after a minute or two.

Later in the day there were numerous reports in the local news about a UFO sighting by several people and the county mount in the area.

Just kind of weird
 
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This is reality.

If they existed we would know it..Not just the military or government.
I have heard a stat that said there are potentially as many planets in the universe as grains of sand on earth. If that is even remotely true. The odds that there is no other life out there is 0%. If true, odds are at least some have technology far advanced than ours.
 
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I believe ya!! If you haven’t ever experienced something like it, you seriously have no idea how long it will stay in your mind and inevitably change your perception on Earth being alone and just life in general. I hope I’m alive to witness the true revealing and something the government can’t hide.
 

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This is reality.

If they existed we would know it..Not just the military or government.

Not necessarily. If they do exist, they are likely thousands or millions of years more advanced than we are. They could pretty much choose who and how they want to reveal themselves.

Reality is that current technology is pretty pathetic compared to where even our species will be 500 years from now. Reality is also that a UFO phenomenon is exploding and has been since World War II. And, UFO sightings go back centuries before that even. Governments have been covering it up for decades primarily through ridicule and threats if necessary. But, they are finally starting to disclose due to pressure that has reached a boiling point. It's happening at an IV drip rate, but it is happening.
 
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There are definitely some strange cases out there especially the pilot stories. Those guys know what the hell they’re looking at in the sky so it’s intereating when enough of them have seem similar objects in the skies.

I’d have to assume that quite a bit of the ufo sightings are something the government is playing with though.
 

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The technology required of a species to be able to travel to us and get back to their home planet in any meaningful amount of time would also dictate that they likely have technology to do so undetected or would only appear as a blip in the electromagnetic spectrum. The idea that an alien species could get here but be in a visible spacecraft that just kind of floats around is ridiculous. The reality is we could be surrounded by an alien species but would have no knowledge of it and if they were doing "science" they would likely perform experiments w/o us being affected in the least, lest the experiment be considered void.
 
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The technology required of a species to be able to travel to us and get back to their home planet in any meaningful amount of time would also dictate that they likely have technology to do so undetected or would only appear as a blip in the electromagnetic spectrum. The idea that an alien species could get here but be in a visible spacecraft that just kind of floats around is ridiculous. The reality is we could be surrounded by an alien species but would have no knowledge of it and if they were doing "science" they would likely perform experiments w/o us being affected in the least, lest the experiment be considered void.

Tommy Lee Jones sums it up:

 
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I don't know if any copies of the textbook still exist. I saw it about 6 years ago when I lived in Colorado Springs. When the Academy found out that one of the textbooks had been shown to interested people and journalists in CS, the Academy, right in the middle of the school year, had all of the students return their books. The Academy then had the textbook reprinted without the controversial chapter, at a cost of some $30,000, and redistributed the new edition. Then the controversial chapter was distributed, exactly as it appeared in the textbook, as a handout in class. I have a copy of the handout.

What is also interesting is that a book that is considered a the firefighter's bible in the military and is used by roughly half the civilian fire departments in the US has a chapter on how to deal with a UFO crash. I have a copy but I'm not going to dig it out now so I am going by memory as to the title being "Fire Officers Guide to Disaster Control'. It has chapters on dealing with plane crashes and space debris from satellites and the like crashing to Earth. The chapter on dealing with a crashed UFO is separate.

Found the alleged text from the book on a message board. Still trying to find a media report of it.

“This leaves us with the unpleasant possibility of alien visitors to our planet, or at least of alien controlled UFO's. However, the data are not well correlated, and what questionable data there are suggest the existence of at least three and maybe four differnet groups of aliens (possibly at different states of development). This too is difficult to accept. It implies the existence of intelligent life on a majority of the planets in our solar system, or a surprisingly strong interest in Earth by members of other solar systems.”

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread77307/pg1
 

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I have heard a stat that said there are potentially as many planets in the universe as grains of sand on earth. If that is even remotely true. The odds that there is no other life out there is 0%. If true, odds are at least some have technology far advanced than ours.

Which is why I feel the government couldnt control total access to them.
 

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Which is why I feel the government couldnt control total access to them.
Very true. Maybe they aren't controlling them. if there are other life forms visiting, they could be controlling their own access. My guess is if they don't want to be seen, or remember, they probably have technology to do so.
 
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Very true. Maybe they aren't controlling them. if there are other life forms visiting, they could be controlling their own access. My guess is if they don't want to be seen, or remember, they probably have technology to do so.

I think if our government knows of alien visitors then part of the reason for denial on the matter has to do with those sensitive enough to throw a fit because we can’t stop them.
 
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I think if our government knows of alien visitors then part of the reason for denial on the matter has to do with those sensitive enough to throw a fit because we can’t stop them.
Right, if the government came out and said "yes there are aliens and they are visiting us" People would go into mass hysteria. There is a show on History channel called project blue book. Based on actual government case files.
 
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Found the alleged text from the book on a message board. Still trying to find a media report of it.

“This leaves us with the unpleasant possibility of alien visitors to our planet, or at least of alien controlled UFO's. However, the data are not well correlated, and what questionable data there are suggest the existence of at least three and maybe four differnet groups of aliens (possibly at different states of development). This too is difficult to accept. It implies the existence of intelligent life on a majority of the planets in our solar system, or a surprisingly strong interest in Earth by members of other solar systems.”

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread77307/pg1

That's not what I saw and what's in my copy. And I'm not aware of any media report on it. I was a member of a UFO study group in Colorado Springs. Two cadets were also members (although they made it clear they were on their own and not representing the AF). One brought his copy of the book in and showed it to us. Other cadets were showing it to their families and friends. When the Academy found out, that's when they pulled the book and reprinted it. This was years ago and maybe there is a new textbook or handout that says what you quoted.