OT - Abandoned Railtrack in Starkville

greenbean.sixpack

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There is an (what appears to be a no longer used) railroad line that runs under University Drive (near Humble Taco) to Highway 12 (near the Army/Navy Pawn Shop). Has there been any talk of developing this into a walking, jogging, biking trail or developing into some other recreational use? I know the rails are still in place, but the line under University looks like it hasn't been used in many years (I have no memory of a train running on that track).

Seems like something with a lot of potential, obviously it would take working with whoever owns that rail line.
 

Crucifictorious

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Yes. The mayor and city are working with the railroad and the state hoping to turn it into a rails to trails project.
 

Duke Humphrey

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The railroad has (so far) been unwilling to abandon the track, which runs from West Point to Ackerman.

Mayor, MDOT and others are pushing to get them to turn it over.
 

Smoked Toag

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There is an (what appears to be a no longer used) railroad line that runs under University Drive (near Humble Taco) to Highway 12 (near the Army/Navy Pawn Shop). Has there been any talk of developing this into a walking, jogging, biking trail or developing into some other recreational use? I know the rails are still in place, but the line under University looks like it hasn't been used in many years (I have no memory of a train running on that track).

Seems like something with a lot of potential, obviously it would take working with whoever owns that rail line.
It was running in 2003, I do know that. Usedp to come by Glenn Hollow at 11 pm every night

ETA: holy hell blue/anonymous/whoever, that was a record for quickest downvote (of a completely neutral post). Congratulations, my stalker
 
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I took a look at the strange brew thing online and I've never seen a mayor be so passive aggressive on a social media platform in my life. Looks like I didn't miss much as far as city politics by moving out of Starkville. Looks like they still have one or two wildcards at all time in office.
 

Palos verdes

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I had no idea that rail was used as recently as 2003. It looked to be in poor shape last time I saw it up close.
 

Bill Shankly

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Bottom line, the railroad hasn't used the tracks in years, there are trees growing among the tracks, and spends no money to maintain them. That being said it won't officially abandon them, so it can not be converted into a trail. If it could be converted to a Tanglefoot Trail type thing that would be a huge boon for MSU, Starkville, and any other community along the abandoned portion.
 

Bill Shankly

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I took a look at the strange brew thing online and I've never seen a mayor be so passive aggressive on a social media platform in my life. Looks like I didn't miss much as far as city politics by moving out of Starkville. Looks like they still have one or two wildcards at all time in office.

Strange Brew has had 10 years to get ready for this. It seems they only discovered it this week.
 

MarkDallas

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Can confirm it was running in the early 2000s. We used to hop the train out by AutoZone and ride it to West Point.
 

Dogs

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I took a look at the strange brew thing online and I've never seen a mayor be so passive aggressive on a social media platform in my life. Looks like I didn't miss much as far as city politics by moving out of Starkville. Looks like they still have one or two wildcards at all time in office.

I mean, I'd be super pissed to if a guy who had 10 years to change a sign, got on twitter to bully me into letting him keep his sign while no other business has had an issue with it. He also wrongly attributed it to her, and he made it look like he couldn't have a sign at all anymore which isn't true. It isn't a money thing, because he's starting a "Brewdison" Hadad said on T&L and he said he was not starting biz's in Starkville because of this lol. The guy seems like a total douche. Also 99% of the people bitching about the sign having to change do not even live in Starkville.
 

Leeshouldveflanked

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Bottom line, the railroad hasn't used the tracks in years, there are trees growing among the tracks, and spends no money to maintain them. That being said it won't officially abandon them, so it can not be converted into a trail. If it could be converted to a Tanglefoot Trail type thing that would be a huge boon for MSU, Starkville, and any other community along the abandoned portion.

Still waiting for that “Huge Boon” up here in Union County from the Tanglefoot Trail. Like most Government Pork projects a huge waste of money. You want a Huge Boon, give a company tax incentives to come build a plant like Toyota, or build a Sportsplex for the Travel Ballers. Spending Millions on a trail, not so much.
 

Dawgbite

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I remember reading in the past that railroad’s are reluctant to abandon lines even if they aren’t being used. One, they are on the books as an asset and every mile of track qualifies the RR for federal dollars.
 

Xenomorph

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We probably don't qualify as a huge boon.. but my family loves Tanglefoot. We use it several times a year.
 

mstateglfr

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Still waiting for that “Huge Boon” up here in Union County from the Tanglefoot Trail. Like most Government Pork projects a huge waste of money. You want a Huge Boon, give a company tax incentives to come build a plant like Toyota, or build a Sportsplex for the Travel Ballers. Spending Millions on a trail, not so much.

A converted paved rail trail may not give a town a 'huge boon' in spending, but that doesnt mean trails are worthless/bad investment. Quality of life is a vital part of what people consider when deciding where to live. In NEMS, its a rail-trail/MUP(multi-use path) desert...this appears to basically be the only thing in all of NEMS, so if anyone is motivated by living on/near a trail then they now have an option and those towns have that advantage over elsewhere.
Multiple paved trails around me have allowed small rural towns to pull in cash from spending on the weekends- bars and restaurants along the trails are flooded with users. It can absolutely happen, even if it hasnt happened yet along Tanglefoot. Eventually parks are worked on in each town, access paths are added to get to downtown areas where there is food and drink, etc.

^All this depends on people actually wanting to use a recreational path for running, walking, cycling, etc. If the people dont want to use it, then yeah its a financial waste. That would be a damn shame as MUPS and paved trails can be an easy and safe way for families to spend time together and be active, as well as a great way to inject spending and interest into local economies.
 

Duke Humphrey

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Starkville could have 3 "gateways"...... North of the research park, downtown by Fire Station Park/The Grill, and the new sportsplex on the corner of 25 and 12. Would add a good bit of recreation to town, not to mention cleaning up the line that as you said is overgrown.

Even if the railroad does not turn it over, they should be held accountable on keeping it looking respectable. Its embarrassing how it looks now.
 

Smoked Toag

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Bottom line, the railroad hasn't used the tracks in years, there are trees growing among the tracks, and spends no money to maintain them. That being said it won't officially abandon them, so it can not be converted into a trail. If it could be converted to a Tanglefoot Trail type thing that would be a huge boon for MSU, Starkville, and any other community along the abandoned portion.
Railroads are notoriously horrific to work with, in any capacity.
 

Smoked Toag

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Still waiting for that “Huge Boon” up here in Union County from the Tanglefoot Trail. Like most Government Pork projects a huge waste of money. You want a Huge Boon, give a company tax incentives to come build a plant like Toyota, or build a Sportsplex for the Travel Ballers. Spending Millions on a trail, not so much.
Good Lord dude, if you can't see the benefit of these trails, I just don't know what to tell you. There are lots of people out there who like to do other outdoor recreational things besides HuNtIn AnD fIsHiN. And Mississippi REALLY needs some of those type people to move here.

Not everything is directly tied to immediate profit.

And not to mention, Starkville/Oxford/Tupelo/NEMS triangle up there is basically the only true place we have in Mississippi that could maintain an economy on its own and be a reasonable place to live with outdoor recreation, and attract others from outside the state. The Coast is what it is, it's not for everybody though. These type of things absolutely are game changers, ESPECIALLY in Starkville.
 
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Smoked Toag

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It woke me up the first night I was in Glenn Hollow. Never bothered me again. Still threw a lot of beer bottles over at it though.
I saw some folks offer money to others if they'd climb under it to the other side, and come back. Of course it was stopped at the time, and it was seemingly easy, but you never knew when it would start moving again. Sometimes it was there for hours, other times just minutes. It was pretty creepy. No one ever got caught like Jesse Pinkman, thankfully.
 

BluffParkDawg

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There is an (what appears to be a no longer used) railroad line that runs under University Drive (near Humble Taco) to Highway 12 (near the Army/Navy Pawn Shop). Has there been any talk of developing this into a walking, jogging, biking trail or developing into some other recreational use? I know the rails are still in place, but the line under University looks like it hasn't been used in many years (I have no memory of a train running on that track).

Seems like something with a lot of potential, obviously it would take working with whoever owns that rail line.

I lived in Cedar Cove apartments on Louisville Street from '97-99 and the train was definitely running the tracks then - usually around 2am or so.
 

garddog

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The rights to those lines were just leased or sold a couple years ago. Don't remember the name of the company but they had a maintenance crew riding them in a pickup. Doubtful the new company is going to release them anytime soon.
 

TrueMaroonGrind

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I mean, I'd be super pissed to if a guy who had 10 years to change a sign, got on twitter to bully me into letting him keep his sign while no other business has had an issue with it. He also wrongly attributed it to her, and he made it look like he couldn't have a sign at all anymore which isn't true. It isn't a money thing, because he's starting a "Brewdison" Hadad said on T&L and he said he was not starting biz's in Starkville because of this lol. The guy seems like a total douche. Also 99% of the people bitching about the sign having to change do not even live in Starkville.

I love Strange Brew and will always support them. We drive 30 minutes out of the way quite often to support them. That said it’s time he acts like an adult here. He is using outrage culture like it was used against him a while ago with the firing of that student/employee. You would think he would remember how bad that sucked.

You had time and it’s just a sign. Find a work around. It’s your fault you dragged your feet, not the mayor’s.
 

The Maroon Pug

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I bike Tanglefoot almost every time I go to North Mississippi to visit family, and usually spend money in New Albany at local businesses as well. Also, building trails and recreation assets like Tanglefoot helps bring the Toyota's of the world to small towns/regions.
 

GloryDawg

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It would be nice if they could connect 82 north east of Starkville to 25 south of Starkville making a rectangle loop around the city have more ways onto the campus.
 

Bill Shankly

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Still waiting for that “Huge Boon” up here in Union County from the Tanglefoot Trail. Like most Government Pork projects a huge waste of money. You want a Huge Boon, give a company tax incentives to come build a plant like Toyota, or build a Sportsplex for the Travel Ballers. Spending Millions on a trail, not so much.
That trail does more for you than you think. It brings in a lot of people. Those people spend money.
 

The Maroon Pug

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Imagine if a rails-to-trails ran from Starkville to Ackerman, and connects to Tombigbee National forest. That's ~25 miles, the amount of outdoor events/fundraisers (running & cycling) that could be hosted in Starkville?
 

Nunya.sixpack

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There is an (what appears to be a no longer used) railroad line that runs under University Drive (near Humble Taco) to Highway 12 (near the Army/Navy Pawn Shop). Has there been any talk of developing this into a walking, jogging, biking trail or developing into some other recreational use? I know the rails are still in place, but the line under University looks like it hasn't been used in many years (I have no memory of a train running on that track).

Seems like something with a lot of potential, obviously it would take working with whoever owns that rail line.

Wth does this have to do with yancy?
 

garddog

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All the way up through the 80's the rail line to Columbus went straight through campus in front of Allen Hall. People used to hobo over to the W.

Went back and found some of the info. KCS is in the middle of merger talks with Canadian National and Canadian Pacific. Two bids have been made. KCS has accepted one and been rejected by regulators, other is under consideration now.

Nothing is going to happen because it is tied up with the merger/takeover. Also, the short lines have been shopped to Pioneer in the past. They own Ripley to New Albany and some at Artesia. That is who wS riding and evaluating the lines around Starkville.

Nothing will happen on any of this till the feds get done.
 
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