Osweiler to Texans
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Some are saying there is more to the story than reported about Osweiler pushing the woman in AZ last week. Regardless, losing Jackson, Forte, and Osweiler hurts. Elway has to come up with two QBs through free agency (Colin Kaepernick?), trade (Foles) or draft (DAK!). It definitely helps Dak, and I think he would flourish in this old cow town.
Idk if Chip Kelly will want to give up Kaepernick (spelling?). He finally has the duel threat QB, but he probably will not have any say so After what he did in Philly
I'm not sure Dak starting early is a good thing. I like the Aaron Rodgers / Tom Brady / Steve Young (etc) model of going to a great organization and learning from an experienced veteran for a year or two.
Steelers would be good. Patriots. Packers.
Steelers would be good. Patriots. Packers.
Yea .. really didn't work out for Osweiler. 25 years old, started 7 games in his 4 year NFL career and will only get $72M over 4 years, 2 years $37M guaranteed. That has to really suck for him.**
Elway isn't stupid and signing a QB for $72M that has a 86 QB rating is ridiculous. Elway understands that the Broncos' framework is still there. They didn’t win the Super Bowl because of its quarterback, they won it in spite of him.
Denver was patient bringing Osweiler along and he has been in the league for a total of 4 years. The Broncos would be a great organization to be a back up and learn the pro QB position.
You assume that the reason that Osweiler didn't beat out Manning wasn't because of the name on the back of the jersey.
No. I saw him play for close to half a season while Manning was injured. He really wasn't much better. He's done nothing in his career to warrant half of that contract. If I'm Elway and he gets that offer from someone else, I don't even hesitate to let him go. Hell, they won the Super Bowl with the worst QB in the league. I'm sure they can find someone to play and not suck too bad.
Stats say different. I watched Manning's last few regular season game and there was no way he should have ever been allowed to play another snap. It took what 4 or 5 INT's in that last game for the Broncos to pull the plug on Manning? Everybody was dying to play Manning in the playoffs. But the Broncos won in spite of Manning.
Who's to say Osweiler doesn't deserve the contract? The QB market is poor. The difference in the offers were $2M/yr and another year (plus guaranteed money and no state income tax in Texas). The Texans had to give him more than the Broncos, plus the Texans promised that they would get Lamar Miller and spend draft picks upgrading the offense. Plus, he would have been out of the league in a couple of years with Kubiak, but might have a chance for a good career with O'Brien.
Osweiler was the 25th rated QB in the league last year. Not a huge difference between that and 34th. Both sucked. Difference was, Manning had the experience and respect of his teammates that Osweiler didn't have. Nobody on that team other than Osweiler had a problem with giving the job back to Manning. If they'd kept Osweiler as the starter, they'd have split the team and lost in the first round of the playoffs.
Where did I say it didn't work out for Brock? I said Elway is a cutthroat dick. He will use up Dak and toss him to the side when he's done with him. I'd rather Prescott land elsewhere.
Elway offered him essentially the same contract, though. Osweiler cut off communication 2 weeks ago and wanted out of Denver.
Any which way you spin this, Elway 17d up.
Last time I saw Elway, he was on the stage standing next to a Super Bowl trophy. I think Denver will be fine.
The kids these days somehow think that they use Monopoly money in pro sports and that $7 million is not really $7 million.
Every successful team in the NFL tosses players aside when they are done with them. That's why its often said NFL means not for long.
Based on what I've seen from his posting history, he probably would think the $64K was much better.
Keep in mind that this is a franchise that won a playoff game with Tim Tebow as the starting QB
Yeah, especially Tebow. I can't believe he kicked him to the curb what with all of the success he has had in the league since. And he really screwed Peyton. Only built a team that allowed him to go out a Super Bowl winner and only paid him $15 million to be a game manager. What an *******.
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you are a great deal closer to the management of Denver than I. How was a a dick to those guys?
you are a great deal closer to the management of Denver than I. How was a a dick to those guys?
Here comes the UK troll Ol BlueBalls like clock work.
Sorry I've missed where other teams have used Tebow as a starting QB since then. Tebow led a non-playoff 1-5 team into the playoffs and beat the Steelers in the 1st round. Tebow is 8-5 as a starter which is better than about 70% of all QBs to ever start in the NFL.
Has Tebow played a meaningful snap in the NFL since Elway gave him a shot in Denver? Would you have passed on Manning if you were Elway? Something tells me you would have.
Its like I said earlier, the fact that the Broncos won a playoff game with Tebow at QB is a testament to the job Elway has done with that franchise. And if he ruffled a few feathers along the way, then so be it. They don't give out participation trophies in the NFL.
You're kidding right?
No one is arguing that he got a better deal from Houston. He did.
But the difference in proportion to his salary versus yours is not a lot, or a determining factor to go to a worse team. There was obviously no bidding as he signed on the 1st day of the NFL's calendar year, and there are 1000 reports that Osweiler broke off communication with the Broncos prior to the new league year. By implying that Elway merely didn't want Osweiler and thus didn't match (his initial offer being in the same ballpark of his deal in Houston establishes the fact that there was room for negotiations) you're saying that every one of the reports that says Osweiler established zero interest in returning is either wrong and/or they're lying. I'm not willing to give Elway that much credit due to the fact that his #1 defense has been absolutely poached, largely because he couldn't sign Von Miller to a contract last season.
But by all means, please continue to think Elway is all of a sudden the greatest GM in the NFL and everything he does is now calculated.
@olblue, you're a tool.
Elway never wanted Tebow. McDaniels did so Elway fired him and pushed Tebow out of Denver after he brought Tebowmania to the city of Denver and led a team on life support into the playoffs. I stand by what I said. Elway treats his QBs like ****. If you don't see it now you'll see it eventually. He isn't going to change. That buck toothed horse has to be the biggest stallion in the stable.
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