Epicly stupid post that has derailed a generation based on fallacy of 1 year closer to the second contract scam. This is fd up logic that convinces players who are not ready to leave. Correctly istated, it showed be….polishing your skills in college as long as can until you are a guaranteed Top 20 pick. You only get one chance at that. Screw it up and you will be the G league playing for 30K. This is particularly the case now with NIL MONEY in college where players can make more money before be subjected to the draft. Everyone knew he had basically no offensive game last year. Oscars game began to improve late the season in free throw shooting and actually threw in a few jump shots. Another year of development and he could develop into the Karl Maine type screen roll player. Malone could not shoot early in his career. Oscar should take all the time he can.get. Nick was a same type of example.
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Are you not aware that Oscar turns 24 this year? He’s already a really old college player. The older you are, the further your draft stock drops, and Oscar has nearly reached the age where scouts consider draft potential expired.
It’s fair to argue he should come back for the NIL money, but to suggest he should to “develop” into a better draft prospect at his age is sheer nonsense. Any marginal improvement (which could easily not happen at all) would be more than offset by being yet another year older.
Oscar’s draft stock is worse now than last year. And it would fall even further with another year here. As a UK fan, I too want Oscar back. But to argue he should do it to further develop as a pro prospect is just dumb logic.
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Ridiculous. You think the NBA scouts didn’t know all about Oscar.
His draft position is set in stone and has been for awhile.
I grew up watching UK ball. Granted most of it was Pitino, but Dad and Mom made sure to teach me about the Hall days, the Rupp years, etc.
What's going on at UK right now is unacceptable. Again, though most won't think it, I'm one of the more reasonable fans. I expect this program to compete for a title every year, and expect FFs here and there. But outside of the rare misfire, UK should never be missing the S16. Ever. Again, I'm a realist and live in reality land. I understand it's gonig to happen to even the best programs. IU never dreamed they'd suck as much as they do now. And just because we are UK, it doesn't make us immune. But we have a crappy caretaker right now. The proof is in his God awful numbers from the last three seasons and lack of post season success.
We've won THREE post season games since 9-16. THREE.
Unacceptable. Anybody else's *** would've been fired with great pleasure and cause.
Again, I live in reality land and understand why that can't happen. (Thanks Mitch)
I'd have fired Cal after this season. But he's got one last undeserved shot to prove us Bennies wrong. I have absolutely no faith he can do it.
Maybe he will luck out into a second title due to DJ and Reed. If so, good. Thanks for everything and Adios. If he doesn't? Don't let the door hit you in the *** on the way out Cal.
I hope wherever Oscar ends up I hope he is successful and happy. He deserved to play under a better coach.
Well said UK90. I've been told he's older than reported age. Remember most African players that come over to the States are being handled/controlled by people with an agenda. They bring over people who are going to make them top $. So 22 yr olds become 17 pretty quick. Anyone remember the legend of former Mississippi State player John Reik in the Summer Camp/AAU scene and then come to find out he was nearly 30?
Watching San Diego State, I believe #33 chose that number because he just had his 33rd bday.
My standards are a little lower than yours honestly. I don’t expect a s16 every year. I think a season like this one every 3 or 4 years is understandable. The problem is season like this one have become the average over the last 8
That's not true at all. 8?
Your statement is true if you said 3.
We had really great teams in 16, 17,19,20
21,22,23 have all been bad to horrible
We are 197-75, and 10-7 in the ncaa tournament over the last 8 years. That is an average record of 24-9 and a 2nd round exit. Not too far off from what happened this season.
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I suspect it was no accident or just let it slip. Cal does things with a purpose. Well all with a purpose except for in-game coaching.
If it was such an “epicly” stupid post, you wouldn’t have needed to write a whole book refuting it.
Give me Oscar back and send Cal to the NBA.
I despise Calipari more and more every single day. Seems that he finds a new way to peck away at destroying this program every day!
A zone defense would have helped cancel out Oscar’s defense but Cal refuses to play it. A part of being a good coach is to adjust to your players’ strengths. Besides, Oscar’s rebounding can be considered part of playing defense because you gain possession of the other team’s missed shots. Nobody has been better than him in decades.
And we have never competed for the title every season either. That's completely unrealistic for any college team or pro team for the most part.
I agree with your overall take.
You and I have VERY different understandings of what the word “great” means.
16 was a nine loss team that went down in the tourney’s first weekend to Indiana. 19 won nothing of real consequence: failed to win the SEC, flamed out in the SECT and went down to an 8 seed Auburn team playing without its injured best player in the NCAAT. 20 did win the SEC regular season title, but they also had some ugly losses to the likes of Utah and an Evansville team that was about the the worst in all of D1 that year.
So you think those teams qualify as “really great” by UK standards? If so, then it’s sad how far our standards have dropped.
If Cal is nudging Oscar out when he wants to return is just horrible and Oscar will probably transfer. I hope Kentucky wins the championship next year but if O transfers I hope his team plays Kentucky and loses but Oscar gets about 50 points and 40 rebounds. However, if Kentucky doesn’t win it all then I hope Oscar’s team is the one who knocks us out (as long as it’s not UL, Duke, or UNC) and he puts up 50 and 40. I am a 55 year old lifelong Kentucky fan and Oscar is one of the best to play here. His coach did him no favors though.
If I were Oscar, I would hold a press conference tomorrow and announce that I am returning to UK next season. I'd love to see Suckipari squirm in that situation. He could just bury Oscar on the bench next season I guess but, most of his past NIL money would still be there. And if Suckipari refused to play Oscar, it might open the eyes of the delusional Cult of Calipari fans.
It would be glorious seeing Calipari get roasted by everyone for not playing a former POY. LOL!
It would be glorious seeing Calipari get roasted by everyone for not playing a former POY. LOL!
Yea. By reading your response the only thing you will call a good season is going to a final 4. You're one of those unrealistic fans that complain the world ends after every loss
16 we won both reg season and conf tournament
17 we lost on a buzzer beater to go to final 4
19 we lost once again by one point in ot to go to final 4. The notion that it was to an 8 seed is the dumbest thing you can say here. The only people that use a seed to put that down simply don't watch the games or are too stubborn to acknowledge a seed is meaningless in that situation
20 we were rolling . Shooting 81% free throws as a team with 2 great guards and a really good big man
Sure none of those teams were undefeated so they can't be "good in your book"
Sad is how some of our fans are unrealistic
You just **** on the 2020 season by naming 2 losses lol
Have you watched any of the tournament this year? I wonder how many fans of UConn are talking about their 6 game losing streak in Dec? Not one. Because it's pathetic. It happens. Teams lose some games.
I agree I probably shouldn't have added them to the word great but they did win conf. They were very fun
Oscar cancelled out his own defense. He would have stuck out like a sore thumb.
Uconn is #1 in Kenpom. Outside of their january slide they’ve been dominant. 24 of their 30 wins are by double figures and that includes a 15 point win over Alabama.
Wtf does total losses and avg have anything to do with it?
We were really good in 17,19,20 . No matter any way u want to look at it
Before the pandemic nobody was saying how bad our program was except the morons that think we should win every game.
So
I didn't say they weren't. I used them because losses happen against teams you should beat.
Last year 22' we were also really good in mid Feb probably the top team in the country after the kansas game.
The draft potential nonsense has run its course. Teams are tired of Ty Ty Washingtons at 19. The would rather get a good player at 25. Instead of wasting the millions.
Dude, in 2016 we were a 5 seed and lost in the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament. Nothing about that is great. Don’t dig your heels in on that one.
Look a few posts above
I actually said I was wrong on that one