Orbit option - Josh Fleeks

king_kong_

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tommi hill stats thru 4 games:

4 targets, 0 rec
1 carry, -5 yards
1 return, 25 yards, fumble
 

king_kong_

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So basically just like most of the skill positions that aren't RB or QB.
our backup placekicker has been a more productive offensive player than Hill this season

our starting QB has been a more productive receiver than Hill this season
 

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our backup placekicker has been a more productive offensive player than Hill this season

our starting QB has been a more productive receiver than Hill this season
Not exactly shocking considering the throwing limitations of our qbs.
 

king_kong_

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Not exactly shocking considering the throwing limitations of our qbs.
former walkon Alex Bullock is averaging 20.6 yards per catch

the Hill experiment needs to end. he's not a playmaker. if he were, he'd be making plays instead of having stooges making excuses for him on this board.
 

c3o

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I personally think we have more of a WR problem than QB problem
 

BleedRed78

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We need to stick to running mostly from the I formation. The statistics show how much better the team is when operating from it compared to shotgun and pistol.

But if we must do the latter, then I'd really love to see the orbit motion option incorporated.

It's clear the option identity has taken root in the past two games, and that opens up the playbook for the team. I.e. fb five/trap, option pass, etc.
 

JOHNNY N

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former walkon Alex Bullock is averaging 20.6 yards per catch

the Hill experiment needs to end. he's not a playmaker. if he were, he'd be making plays instead of having stooges making excuses for him on this board.
Season 2 Lol GIF by Insecure on HBO
 

Sodakred

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tommi hill stats thru 4 games:

4 targets, 0 rec
1 carry, -5 yards
1 return, 25 yards, fumble
Down here in ASU land, he is a forgotten man but was once a major recruit. It probably hasn’t helped that he keeps getting moved from defense to offense and back.
 

cavalot

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what stats show this?
I agree with him, but am not sure how to statistically back this up without going through game film and charting. Unless there is a place out there that we have access to.

The last two games we have been very productive from the I formation in both the run and PA passing game.
 

Suhrreal

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tommi hill stats thru 4 games:

4 targets, 0 rec
1 carry, -5 yards
1 return, 25 yards, fumble

So he's averaging 10 yards per touch? Our damn QBs need to put the ball in the right place. He is beating his man deep.
 

king_kong_

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I agree with him, but am not sure how to statistically back this up without going through game film and charting. Unless there is a place out there that we have access to.

The last two games we have been very productive from the I formation in both the run and PA passing game.
I formation has been great for us. we should absolutely lean on it. helps our line, defenses haven't really been focused on stopping the 2-back run game in years. what's old might just be new again.

but you'd be very hard pressed to find a single stat to back up his claim. our biggest plays the last 2 games have come in shotgun.

a multiple offense is what we've been promised and it's what we're seeing. that's a good thing. I'm excited to see where it goes balance of year as Haarberg gets more comfortable and hopefully a deep threat emerges.
 

cavalot

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I formation has been great for us. we should absolutely lean on it. helps our line, defenses haven't really been focused on stopping the 2-back run game in years. what's old might just be new again.

but you'd be very hard pressed to find a single stat to back up his claim. our biggest plays the last 2 games have come in shotgun.

a multiple offense is what we've been promised and it's what we're seeing. that's a good thing. I'm excited to see where it goes balance of year as Haarberg gets more comfortable and hopefully a deep threat emerges.
Theres a big difference between big/explosive plays and consistent move the chains type of plays. Yes we have had some explosive plays from the gun (option plays), however we have been most consistent when under center and doing what our type of OL do best. lean forward. Not saying that we should be under center every snap or that we need a FB in on every play, but our offense seems to be most consistent when we are doing so.

We won't win big ten games with a few explosive plays.

By the way. 2:53 mark


And at least two 10+ yard gains in this one
 
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We need to stick to running mostly from the I formation. The statistics show how much better the team is when operating from it compared to shotgun and pistol.

But if we must do the latter, then I'd really love to see the orbit motion option incorporated.

It's clear the option identity has taken root in the past two games, and that opens up the playbook for the team. I.e. fb five/trap, option pass, etc.
Option identity? I formation? Count me in on both of those…still have to have some playmakers but probability of success in Lincoln is, as you alluded to, much higher. We don’t have the “Jimmy’s and the Joes” to run the pro style offense or whatever everybody else runs and I doubt we ever will. TO figured that out a long time ago, developed an offense that would have a lot of success without as many skilled players, and the results speak for themselves. Unless we go back to those roots, I really don’t ever seeing NU being very relevant again.
 

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Option identity? I formation? Count me in on both of those…still have to have some playmakers but probability of success in Lincoln is, as you alluded to, much higher. We don’t have the “Jimmy’s and the Joes” to run the pro style offense or whatever everybody else runs and I doubt we ever will. TO figured that out a long time ago, developed an offense that would have a lot of success without as many skilled players, and the results speak for themselves. Unless we go back to those roots, I really don’t ever seeing NU being very relevant again.
At least somebody has the balls to say it. We may have some good years here and there with pro style or pass heavy spread offenses, but you won’t have playmakers year in year out to make it work consistently. Only schools like OU, OSU, LSU, AL, etc. have the recruiting ability to do so.
 

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Option identity? I formation? Count me in on both of those…still have to have some playmakers but probability of success in Lincoln is, as you alluded to, much higher. We don’t have the “Jimmy’s and the Joes” to run the pro style offense or whatever everybody else runs and I doubt we ever will. TO figured that out a long time ago, developed an offense that would have a lot of success without as many skilled players, and the results speak for themselves. Unless we go back to those roots, I really don’t ever seeing NU being very relevant again.
pass rush defenses can be taken advantage of
 

Huskers123456

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At least somebody has the balls to say it. We may have some good years here and there with pro style or pass heavy spread offenses, but you won’t have playmakers year in year out to make it work consistently. Only schools like OU, OSU, LSU, AL, etc. have the recruiting ability to do so.
Not sure why people focus on the offense so much. Defense is the ticket. The offense should complement the defense. Every once in a while you hit on a great qb and compete for titles.