Operation Crossfire Hurricane

dave

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Your thought about the collusion issue is right. Collusion isn't even defined as a crime. The crime is conspiracy, but conspiracy to do what? The media been going off about collusion for over a year now. I wish they'd stop.

I doubt they get him on obstruction. I think the case is weak, mainly because obstruction is usually very difficult to prove.

If they get Trump on something, it's going to be related to money - money laudering or the like. I'm not saying he did any of that, but that's where they could build a case that could stick if he did.
I agree with all of that. My issue with it is that investigations are supposed to be about investigating suspected crimes and not investigating people to find crimes.
 

WVUCOOPER

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Yayyyyyyyy more 4th amendment trampling. Thanks Obama, you fascist piece of ****.
Also, the Supreme Court doesn't seem to share your assessment that this is 4th amendment trampling, "types of information the FBI obtains with NSLs provide no constitutionally protected reasonable expectation of privacy. Because a person has already provided the information to a third party, e.g., their telephone company, they no longer have a reasonable expectation of privacy to the information, and therefore there is no Fourth Amendment requirement to obtain a judge's approval to obtain the information."
 

atlkvb

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Your thought about the collusion issue is right. Collusion isn't even defined as a crime. The crime is conspiracy, but conspiracy to do what? The media been going off about collusion for over a year now. I wish they'd stop.

I doubt they get him on obstruction. I think the case is weak, mainly because obstruction is usually very difficult to prove.

If they get Trump on something, it's going to be related to money - money laudering or the like. I'm not saying he did any of that, but that's where they could build a case that could stick if he did.


Agree with all of this.
 

dave

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Your thought about the collusion issue is right. Collusion isn't even defined as a crime. The crime is conspiracy, but conspiracy to do what? The media been going off about collusion for over a year now. I wish they'd stop.

I doubt they get him on obstruction. I think the case is weak, mainly because obstruction is usually very difficult to prove.

If they get Trump on something, it's going to be related to money - money laudering or the like. I'm not saying he did any of that, but that's where they could build a case that could stick if he did.
I agree with all of that. My issue with it is that investigations are supposed to be about investigating suspected crimes and not investigating people to find crimes.
 

Shirley Knott

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Props to @WVU82 for below much earlier post


I'm not sure which is worse, whether the FBI was involved in political propaganda, or if they were duped by political propaganda.
Suspect the FBI was duped by their own propaganda. They dont seem to know where their lie begin or end...
 

DvlDog4WVU

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If they get Trump on something, it's going to be related to money - money laudering or the like. I'm not saying he did any of that, but that's where they could build a case that could stick if he did.
I’ve said this all along, however, that’s not the mission of the SC. If they want to investigate that, it should be done through the proper DoJ channels with AG oversight.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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NSLs are a product of the Patriot Act under Dubya, no?
Of course GDub started it and Obama continued when given the chance to kill it, just as Trump did. This is a bi-partisan problem. My point in pointing out Obama was this latest batch of shot was in his administration.
 

WVUCOOPER

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Of course GDub started it and Obama continued when given the chance to kill it, just as Trump did. This is a bi-partisan problem. My point in pointing out Obama was this latest batch of shot was in his administration.
Meh. I'm not too much up in arms over it. It sounds like a valuable tool for us to have.
 

TarHeelEer

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I don't it. I see it as Trumpsters v reality.

How many resigning or people being charged will it take for it to be not a fairy tale for you? McCabe, #2 in the FBI already has bit the dust, and will be charged, or has turned states' witness. What will it take for you to admit you were totally wrong? 5 including Comey? 10, throw in a Clapper or more likely a Brennan? 20, and Lynch or Rice? Or, 30, including Obama officials? What does it take for you to be FOS for the last year and a half?

My opinion of you, it's the first, 5 and Comey. You guffed everything.
 

WVUCOOPER

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How many resigning or people being charged will it take for it to be not a fairy tale for you? McCabe, #2 in the FBI already has bit the dust, and will be charged, or has turned states' witness. What will it take for you to admit you were totally wrong? 5 including Comey? 10, throw in a Clapper or more likely a Brennan? 20, and Lynch or Rice? Or, 30, including Obama officials? What does it take for you to be FOS for the last year and a half?

My opinion of you, it's the first, 5 and Comey. You guffed everything.
McCabe bit the dust for blabbing about the Clinton Foundation and lying about it. That was the DEEPSTATE plan to harm Trump? I'm not sure I have ever defended the FBI's handling of the Clinton case....I just don't think they are traitorous monsters. How did we switch to the Clinton email case from the routine counterintel process of NSLs anyway?

Interwebs sure do get you worked up.
 

TarHeelEer

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McCabe bit the dust for blabbing about the Clinton Foundation and lying about it. That was the DEEPSTATE plan to harm Trump? I'm not sure I have ever defended the FBI's handling of the Clinton case....I just don't think they are traitorous monsters. How did we switch to the Clinton email case from the routine counterintel process of NSLs anyway?

Interwebs sure do get you worked up.

I'm not worked up. You should see me at that thing I will never mention again.

You didn't answer, so 5 and Comey it is. Let's see how it plays out.

You don't get to pull it all back now. You have scoffed, laughed at, nearly every last post of mine for an eternity, and it's going to start coming out. If they mishandled Hillary, they mishandled Trump in order to cover it up, and now they've started the narrative to cover that mess up yesterday. And those that don't like the old posts pulled back up, deal. Coop is going to get a face full.
 

WVUCOOPER

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I'm not worked up. You should see me at that thing I will never mention again.

You didn't answer, so 5 and Comey it is. Let's see how it plays out.

You don't get to pull it all back now. You have scoffed, laughed at, nearly every last post of mine for an eternity, and it's going to start coming out. If they mishandled Hillary, they mishandled Trump in order to cover it up, and now they've started the narrative to cover that mess up yesterday. And those that don't like the old posts pulled back up, deal. Coop is going to get a face full.
lol. Ok guy. At least it didn't get you worked up.
 

CpEER

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How many resigning or people being charged will it take for it to be not a fairy tale for you? McCabe, #2 in the FBI already has bit the dust, and will be charged, or has turned states' witness. What will it take for you to admit you were totally wrong? 5 including Comey? 10, throw in a Clapper or more likely a Brennan? 20, and Lynch or Rice? Or, 30, including Obama officials? What does it take for you to be FOS for the last year and a half?

My opinion of you, it's the first, 5 and Comey. You guffed everything.

jfc

You’re balls deep in the rabbit hole. Good luck.

Soon lol
 

CpEER

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I'm not worked up. You should see me at that thing I will never mention again.

You didn't answer, so 5 and Comey it is. Let's see how it plays out.

You don't get to pull it all back now. You have scoffed, laughed at, nearly every last post of mine for an eternity, and it's going to start coming out. If they mishandled Hillary, they mishandled Trump in order to cover it up, and now they've started the narrative to cover that mess up yesterday. And those that don't like the old posts pulled back up, deal. Coop is going to get a face full.

Holy ****. I need to hang around this place more often. I was only half joking about you being a certifiable nut but lord almighty. You sound like you are one Alex Jones podcast away from shooting up a pizzeria.
 

wvu2007

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I'm not worked up. You should see me at that thing I will never mention again.

You didn't answer, so 5 and Comey it is. Let's see how it plays out.

You don't get to pull it all back now. You have scoffed, laughed at, nearly every last post of mine for an eternity, and it's going to start coming out. If they mishandled Hillary, they mishandled Trump in order to cover it up, and now they've started the narrative to cover that mess up yesterday. And those that don't like the old posts pulled back up, deal. Coop is going to get a face full.

Say no more fam
 

CpEER

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Looks like 82 got to another one.

If by “got another one” you mean “ruined another thread with his tweet spamming” then yea...you are correct.

Dude hasn’t had an original thought since 1995. I would bet any money that at some point he was kicked off America Online for chat room flooding.
 

79eer

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If by “got another one” you mean “ruined another thread with his tweet spamming” then yea...you are correct.

Dude hasn’t had an original thought since 1995. I would bet any money that at some point he was kicked off America Online for chat room flooding.
Nah, ....... that’s not what I really meant, .... carry on.
 

CpEER

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Is that the standard deflection now when the resistance cant respond to the subject?

What was the subject? He ***** up every thread with bot tweets. Who can follow?

Just looked up. One of them was from Mike Pampeo. jfc. Between this and THE’s tin foil hat shenanigans...this place is amazing.
 

dave

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What was the subject? He ***** up every thread with bot tweets. Who can follow?

Just looked up. One of them was from Mike Pampeo. jfc. Between this and THE’s tin foil hat shenanigans...this place is amazing.
Yet here you are.
 

atlkvb

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Is that the standard deflection now when the resistance cant respond to the subject?

Always has been with the left they complain about what he posts but no one ever refutes any of it.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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What was the subject? He ***** up every thread with bot tweets. Who can follow?

Just looked up. One of them was from Mike Pampeo. jfc. Between this and THE’s tin foil hat shenanigans...this place is amazing.
Mike Pampeo isn’t close to being as funny as Sean Spicier.

It cracks me up how much you all ***** and whine over his tweet posting. Without exception, everyone of you leftist cvnts have cried over 82. It’s awesome
 

CpEER

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Mike Pampeo isn’t close to being as funny as Sean Spicier.

It cracks me up how much you all ***** and whine over his tweet posting. Without exception, everyone of you leftist cvnts have cried over 82. It’s awesome

I’d say it brings so much to the board but then that would do a disservice to the creative ways you and Dave get by the swear word filters. Now that cracks me up. I always have this mental image of you smugly sipping your drink through a straw after hitting Post Reply.