Ooops! Not a good look for SI

[Cherokee]

https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/08/16/hugh-freeze-ole-miss-escorts-recruiting-school-plane

Only one question left now.

 

[Xenomorph]

Hookers and recruiting in the title.. Gettin' closer, boys.

 

[bulldogcountry1]

What are the chances the confidential meeting at the John A Roebling Ballroom at Embassy Suites by Hilton Cincinnati River Center in Covington, KY 41011 on Sept 11th gets postponed due to "in light of recent discoveries"?

 

[missouridawg]

What are the chances the confidential meeting at the John A Roebling Ballroom at Embassy Suites by Hilton Cincinnati River Center in Covington, KY 41011 on Sept 11th gets postponed due to "in light of recent discoveries"?

None. NOAs 1 and 2 will be heard. Anything on hookers for recruits/coaches will be in NOA 3.

 

[patdog]

None. NOAs 1 and 2 will be heard. Anything on hookers for recruits/coaches will be in NOA 3.

This is the correct answer. The day of judgment is near.

 

[Wizard.sixpack]

he absolutely was getting these for recruits. It is pretty evident now.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

The big question is was he calling the numbers on non-recruiting trips? If the answer is no, then it's almost certainly he was getting them for recruits. If he was, then they were for himself. I'm guessing it's the former, but UM wants us to think (now) that it was the latter.

 

[Nilo]

Not for recruits.

 

[patdog]

It's not necessarily an either/or question. I suspect at various times he was getting hookers for himself personally and also getting them for recruits. I still think the ones for recruits would have been for the recruiting weekends in Oxford, not for the day of his recruiting trip to the recruits' home or school.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

I think we should all wish for a delay in the COI Hearing. The media noise leading up to the sanctions will potentially be worse than the actual sanctions. Please let the investigation take away another recruiting class away from them before the sanctions take away 3-4 classes.

 

[coach66]

I agree, the smoking gun would be lot's of hooker calls that centered around big

recruiting weekends in Oxford. Until we see that I don't think this has legs, no pun intended.

 

[stateu1]

The big question is was he calling the numbers on non-recruiting trips? If the answer is no, then it's almost certainly he was getting them for recruits. If he was, then they were for himself. I'm guessing it's the former, but UM wants us to think (now) that it was the latter.

I would say if wifey was with him non recruiting trips, then he probably wasn't renting them during those. He could still be getting them for himself only on recruiting trips when wife wasn't around.

 

[stateu1]

recruiting weekends in Oxford. Until we see that I don't think this has legs, no pun intended.

Agreed. If I'm getting hookers for myself it will damn sure be when I'm out of town without my wife.

 

[Mjoelner]

recruiting weekends in Oxford. Until we see that I don't think this has legs, no pun intended.

When it comes to hookers and the recruiting weekends in Oxford, I've heard another coach's name mentioned for the past two years and it wasn't Freeze. Not going to call names on the board but I'll say that the name I've heard from multiple sources is still on the staff.

 

[Nilo]

Not for recruits. Freeze was a false prophet that liked to pay for it. He's a ****** up dude.

 

[patdog]

I suspect you and I have heard the same name.

 

[blacklistedbully]

Hasn't it already been determined Freeze was not in Florida the date of that call or anytime close before or after? In fact, didn't OM sign a recruit from that area very shortly after the hooker call...a recruit with multiple big-time offers who was considered a heavy favorite to his home-state Gators?

 

[bulldognation]

Speculated he was not there based on his twitter timeline. But as we all know, fake Twitter comes naturally to Ole Miss. so who knows if he was blowing smoke or had someone with a fake account through which to give the appearance he was out of town and setting up meetings and dinners.

 

[The Fatboy]

Its the money trail that needs to be followed. How were these hookers paid for? Out of his own pocket? University funds? Donor money? Secret ***** slush fund?

This is how you will discover if they were bought for recruits. That and just flat out asking them hoes.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

Y'all worshipped at his feet for 5 years. Now he is just a throw away like every other coach you dumbasses deify.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Not for recruits.

Where are you getting this info? What's the rational? Don't think that it has been shown that the escorts were entirely for Bucky and only by Bucky. And, OM & Bucky ain't talking.

 

[AlCoDog]

Previous recruits?

 

[blacklistedbully]

Speculated he was not there based on his twitter timeline. But as we all know, fake Twitter comes naturally to Ole Miss. so who knows if he was blowing smoke or had someone with a fake account through which to give the appearance he was out of town and setting up meetings and dinners.

Occam's Razor says the hooker was for a certain recruit from the very town the hooker was "plying her trade". Not long after, said recruit rejected the home team, and all the other elite program offers and decided UNM was the place for him.

 

[kired]

That and just flat out asking them hoes.

How has this been public for almost a month now, and none of them come out yet? Surely somebody is trying to track down his hoes & interview them.

 

[The Fatboy]

I'm sure they have tried but protitution is illegal so you will have a hard time getting them to talk unless there is something in it for them. Plus they only know of one escort service number and that has been disconnected.

 

[Jgbishop]

Opportunity fund**

 

[josebrown]

I would say if wifey was with him non recruiting trips, then he probably wasn't renting them during those. He could still be getting them for himself only on recruiting trips when wife wasn't around.

If you don't think he would with wifey around, then you don't know those folks very well. I used to know one that rented two rooms when he and wifey would travel. And the other room wasn't for wifey. Those folks aren't like us, they don't have principles... I'm not implying anything to do with recruiting here, just the way I know at least one of them rolls. So I wouldn't rule anything in recruiting out either...

 

[bulldogcountry1]

The next question is why would a HC let himself be involved with something like that if he was dipping into the salsa himself?

I think Freeze was so obsessed with being known as a great recruiter that he could have been doing this on his own or with 1 or 2 others...to elevate his status among the flock.

 

[stateguy]

How has this been public for almost a month now, and none of them come out yet? Surely somebody is trying to track down his hoes & interview them.

This.

In Louisville's case - wasn't it the hookers who outed the program? Maybe it was an investigative journalist that found them

 

[missouridawg]

Not for recruits.

I suggest all of us trust him. They haven't been wrong much so far.

 

[AssEndDawg]

Agreed. If I'm getting hookers for myself it will damn sure be when I'm out of town without my wife.

Unless your wife is into that sort of thing... no judgement!

 

[CochiseCowbell]

I'm confused.

While I'm all for OM getting as much negative press as possible (& hope it continues tenfold), this SI piece is basically redundant; adding nothing new. Why even "write" an "article?" Just tweet out the WSJ link with a blurb such as "Interesting timeline of events in the Freeze/OM Saga."

I know this is pedantic semantics in a way, but several here have bemoaned the practice of sites writing articles on articles. Hell, Steve had virtually an entire show on the practice. Is SI now like Bleacher Report, SDS, & Coaching Search?

 

[TBone.sixpack]

Exactly. 17 him with his hat in hand ********. I want the whole lot to suffer through a decade of ****** football.

 

[ugabully]

I'm confused.

While I'm all for OM getting as much negative press as possible (& hope it continues tenfold), this SI piece is basically redundant; adding nothing new. Why even "write" an "article?" Just tweet out the WSJ link with a blurb such as "Interesting timeline of events in the Freeze/OM Saga."

I know this is pedantic semantics in a way, but several here have bemoaned the practice of sites writing articles on articles. Hell, Steve had virtually an entire show on the practice. Is SI now like Bleacher Report, SDS, & Coaching Search?

I admit that I haven't read every article, but this was the first mainstream press one that I've read that confirmed that the pattern was consistently escort calls, that they matched up with recruiting trips, and that he use the university plane on the trips. I had honestly previously wondered if the calls merely revealed an affair that they could use to justify firing him because a bunch of escort calls just blew my mind.

I had read stuff that speculated the first two things, but never that confirmed it exactly. And I think I'd read everything but the university plane part here.

 

[Dawg_4_lifes]

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[The Fatboy]

This is the first time that calls have been confirmed to have occured during recruiting visits. WSJ submitted an FOIA for his travel records and matched to his phone records.

 

[boatsandhoes]

They need to get popped for e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g. If they don't the culture thinks it's ok, and when the dust settles they'll go right back to doing it again. The hookers were for recruits, and maybe beaver, but they were to sign with OM. it's as clear as Waterford, just need proof.

Money and hoes bitches. Every mans dream. "fat rabbit" (credit to Shumley) bought and paid for. But hey, I bet those girls have serious talent.

Burn it all down to the ground.

 

[PhredPhantom]

How long might this practice (escorts for recruits) have actually been going on?

Was it already going on before Freeze got there and maybe he just continued the practice, perhaps to a higher level?

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How do you think Nutt's attorneys knew to ask for phone records?
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I'm not accusing anybody of anything but these are interesting questions that I'd like to know the answers to.

 

[The Fatboy]

I dont think there is any evidence thus far that the escorts were for recruits. As much as we might find that selaciousy good for us there just isn't any proof yet.

 

[Shmuley]

"... yet."