Onyenso

Nov 15, 2008
38,645
57,515
0
If you are missing the sarcasm in the useless +/- stat not sure what to tell you
Sarcasm at the half as well, game thread jester? [roll] [roll] [roll]

 

Cats_2010

Heisman
Jan 8, 2010
11,702
19,834
103
I was not big on UGO returning this game or really even being a part of this team. I will say he seemed much quicker getting up and down the floor this year than last and made some great defensive plays tonight. Thought he played outstanding tonight with it being his first live game action in almost a year. Showed a lot more potential tonight than I saw in him last year.
 

*Fox2Monk*

Heisman
Jun 10, 2009
44,723
80,523
113
I admit I had my doubts about him but he absolutely helps us defensively. He makes them think twice before coming inside and when they do he causes issues.
My only hesitation was rust and if Cal would force 3 big men in at once.
 
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*Fox2Monk*

Heisman
Jun 10, 2009
44,723
80,523
113
I was not big on UGO returning this game or really even being a part of this team. I will say he seemed much quicker getting up and down the floor this year than last and made some great defensive plays tonight. Thought he played outstanding tonight with it being his first live game action in almost a year. Showed a lot more potential tonight than I saw in him last year.
I agree
 
Feb 17, 2007
4,853
791
98
Gotta wonder whose call it was having Onyenso flown to Atlanta the morning of the game and still playing the kid after he was puking at the shoot around and literally played with the flu? He played that well no where NEAR 100%. Just really odd thing since they left him in Lexington from the get go.
 
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HagginHall1999

Heisman
Oct 19, 2018
16,008
28,480
113
Only thing I know is his paperwork, and a lot of others (non-athletes included) got royally screwed up and was put in late...

But at this point, it's clearly the ncaa screwing the kid...

There has been a lot of chatter lately that the whole "late enrollment" thing may have not been real. Meaning Z really needed to be here must sooner than he was to enroll in Fall semester and be eligible on the court.

Wondering if it may be as simple as him being eligible for spring semester.

Either way, seems like he may be out starting 4 next year.
 

megablue

Heisman
Oct 2, 2012
15,523
15,569
113
I was not big on UGO returning this game or really even being a part of this team. I will say he seemed much quicker getting up and down the floor this year than last and made some great defensive plays tonight. Thought he played outstanding tonight with it being his first live game action in almost a year. Showed a lot more potential tonight than I saw in him last year.
He is the youngest of our three 7-footers.
 

dickieVIII

All-Conference
Feb 5, 2022
833
1,154
0
Just having him or Bradshaw in the game makes peoples hesitate about driving the basketball. The negativity of some people on this board has went from laughable to strange to borderline psychotic. Good to have him back.
 
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*Fox2Monk*

Heisman
Jun 10, 2009
44,723
80,523
113
Gotta wonder whose call it was having Onyenso flown to Atlanta the morning of the game and still playing the kid after he was puking at the shoot around and literally played with the flu? He played that well no where NEAR 100%. Just really odd thing since they left him in Lexington from the get go.
Good thing he played, I hope he said I’m ready to ball out coach, I’m flying down.
 

Cold Stout Beer

Heisman
Dec 10, 2023
9,855
30,784
0
There has been a lot of chatter lately that the whole "late enrollment" thing may have not been real. Meaning Z really needed to be here must sooner than he was to enroll in Fall semester and be eligible on the court.

Wondering if it may be as simple as him being eligible for spring semester.

Either way, seems like he may be out starting 4 next year.
Could be that. He seems too content as if he already knows his fate.
 
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Son_Of_Saul

Heisman
Dec 7, 2007
45,128
97,975
113
The refs robbed him on a 4th block.

Like others mentioned, he blocked three shots, and altered 2 or 3 more. He did all of that in 9 or 10 minutes of play.

And this, coming in the 2nd biggest game of the year after he's been our for almost a year with an injury?

You take that any day. He's exactly what this team needs, and his presence will be huge for us as the season goes along.
 

Bird--man

Redshirt
Feb 26, 2018
36
24
8
-13 with Ugo in the game. He was not good tonight
I wish we'd quit using this totally meaningless stat. This is a team sport - you can't put the results of part of the game on 1 person. Hell he could be the only one to score any points while he was in. Have you ever seen this stat used in football for let's say a TE? Same worthless stat in any team sport.
 

anon1751545683

All-American
Dec 14, 2020
4,722
6,268
0
+- is a terrible judge of how a player played IMO. Sometimes it shows the real picture but a lot of times it doesn’t.
Exactly!! It’s one of the dumbest analytics of the dumb analytics.

If a guy is just standing out there with 4 guys balling out his +- is good even though he may have never touched the ball or guarded anyone.

Conversely a guy can be dominating his position with 4 guys that can’t play and his +- is bad.
 
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megablue

Heisman
Oct 2, 2012
15,523
15,569
113
Exactly!! It’s one of the dumbest analytics of the dumb analytics.

If a guy is just standing out there with 4 guys balling out his +- is good even though he may have never touched the ball or guarded anyone.

Conversely a guy can be dominating his position with 4 guys that can’t play and his +- is bad.
Not good as a snap-shot, but can be useful over time to see definite trends ...
 

storm1507

All-American
Sep 24, 2022
1,650
7,206
103
+/- is just another tool in the toolbox to be used mostly to support someone's own agenda when it works for them.