One site's seeding for the tourney

ScarletDave

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Always important to note if rankings are “if the season ended today” or “where we predict once the season ends” … if the season ended today we are a 6 or 7 yes. If we win the Big Ten I think we are a 3 or 4
 
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Saw this one on the Minny site, which confirms Minny's hate against Rutgers. This person has posted updates each week, and Rutgers has always been in the "last 4 in," regardless of the situation.




EDEN PRAIRIE, MN – Our final Field of 68 projection of 2022 before we head into the “meat and potatoes” of the college basketball season. … conference play. An * denotes the automatic qualifier (conference leader and/or best NET ranking) in a multiple-bid conference. Current NET ranking is noted in parentheses.

Week 7 Team of the Week: #330 Eastern Illinois -- The Panthers (2-9 vs. D1 opponents) went into Carver-Hawkeye Arena and stunned Iowa, 92-83. Their only previous D1 win came against #360 (of 363) IUPUI. The Panthers have more Quad 1 wins (1) than Kansas State, Kentucky, Oklahoma, and Utah State, all currently in the field as at-large selections.

FIELD OF 68 PROJECTION (through games played December 26, 2022)
America East (1): UMass-Lowell (79)

American (2): *Houston (2), Memphis (45)

ACC (5): Duke (17), Virginia (18), North Carolina (24), Virginia Tech (27), *Miami (48)

ASUN (1): Liberty (74)

Atlantic 10 (1): Dayton (82)

Big East (4): *UConn (1), Creighton (34), Xavier (35), Marquette (37)

Big Sky (1): Montana State (124)

Big South (1): Longwood (141)

Big Ten (9): *Purdue (4), Ohio State (15), Indiana (21), Maryland (23), Rutgers (29), Illinois (44), Penn State (49), Wisconsin (50), Michigan State (68)

Big XII (8): *Kansas (5), Texas (9), West Virginia (11), Baylor (19), Iowa State (32), Kansas State (33), Oklahoma (47), TCU (60)

Big West (1): UC-Irvine (83)

Colonial (1): College of Charleston (53)

Conference USA (1): FAU (13)

Horizon (1): Milwaukee (173)

Ivy (1): Yale (36)

MAAC (1): Iona (57)

MAC (1): Kent (25)

MEAC (1): NCCU (183)

Missouri Valley (1): Bradley (63)

Mountain West (4): *New Mexico (14), Utah State (22), San Diego State (38), UNLV (51)

NEC (1): Wagner (262)

OVC (1): SIU-Edwardsville (95)

Pac 12 (4): *UCLA (6), Arizona (7), Utah (42), Arizona State (43)

Patriot (1): American (152)

SEC (7): *Tennessee (3), Alabama (8), Arkansas (10), Mississippi State (26), Auburn (28), Kentucky (31), Missouri (40)

SoCon (1): Furman (135)

Southland (1): Nicholls (207)

SWAC (1): Grambling (164)

Summit (1): Oral Roberts (54)

Sun Belt (1): Southern Miss (30)

WCC (2): *Gonzaga (12), Saint Mary’s (16)

WAC (1): Sam Houston (20)
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Last 4 In: Rutgers (29), Kentucky (31), San Diego State (38), Oklahoma (47)

First 4 Out: Oklahoma State (46), UAB (52), NC State (55), Boise State (61)

8 to Watch: North Texas (41), Iowa (58), Colorado (62), UCF (66), UNC-Wilmington (72), USC (86), Wake Forest (87), San Francisco (88)

Non-Power 6 At-Large Bids (5): Saint Mary’s (16), Utah State (22), San Diego State (38), Memphis (45), UNLV (51)

In With the New (6): American, Creighton, Dayton, Furman, Liberty, Missouri

Out With the Old (6): Boise State, Chattanooga, Florida Gulf Coast, Iowa, Navy, Saint Louis
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AT-LARGE RECORDS vs. QUADS 1 & 2 (Q1 WINS)
Utah State -- 5-0 (0 Q1 wins)
TCU – 3-0 (1 Q1 win)
UNLV – 2-0 (1 Q1 win)
Wisconsin – 5-1 (3 Q1 wins)
Arizona – 4-1 (4 Q1 wins)
Virginia Tech – 3-1 (3 Q1 wins)
Alabama – 6-2 (2 Q1 wins)
Arizona State – 3-1 (2 Q1 wins)
Arkansas – 3-1 (2 Q1 wins)
Missouri – 3-1 (1 Q1 win)
Virginia – 4-2 (2 Q1 wins)
Mississippi State – 2-1 (2 Q1 wins)
Texas – 2-1 (1 Q1 win)
Kansas State – 2-1 (no Q1 wins)
Oklahoma (last 4 in) – 5-3 (no Q1 wins)
Baylor – 3-2 (2 Q1 wins)
Auburn – 3-2 (1 Q1 win)
West Virginia – 3-2 (1 Q1 win)
North Carolina – 5-4 (1 Q1 win)
Michigan State – 3-3 (2 Q1 wins)
Duke – 3-3 (1 Q1 1 win)
Penn State – 3-3 (1 Q1 win)
Xavier – 3-3 (1 Q1 win)
Iowa State – 2-2 (1 Q1 win)
Creighton – 3-4 (1 Q1 win)
Indiana – 2-3 (2 Q1 wins)
Maryland – 2-3 (1 Q1 win)
Memphis – 2-3 (1 Q1 win)
Ohio State – 2-3 (1 Q1 win)
San Diego State (last 4 in) -- 2-3 (1 Q1 win)
Kentucky (last 4 in) – 2-3 (no Q1 wins)

Illinois – 2-4 (2 Q1 wins)
Marquette – 2-4 (1 Q1 win)
Utah – 2-4 (1 Q1 win)
Rutgers (last 4 in) – 1-2 (1 Q1 win)

NEXT PROJECTION:
Monday, January 2
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Bracketed In-Season Tournament Championships by Conference (28)
Big XII (3) - -Kansas State, Oklahoma, TCU
Pac 12 (3): Arizona, Arizona State, Washington
SEC (3) – Auburn, Mississippi State, Tennessee
Big East (2) – Saint John’s, UConn
Big Ten (2) – Maryland, Purdue
Big West (2) – Hawaii, UC-Irvine
Colonial (2) – College of Charleston, UNC-Wilmington
WCC (2) – LMU, San Francisco
American (1) – UCF
ACC (1): Virginia
ASUN (1) – Florida Gulf Coast
Atlantic 10 (1) – UMass
Conference USA (1): UAB
MAC (1): Kent
Missouri Valley (1): Drake
Mountain West (1) -- UNLV
Sun Belt (1) – Louisiana
 

bac2therac

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for starters any NCAA analysis at this point in pointless because there are 18 conference games left to play for most schools

however based on that analysis of q1 and 2 wins, yes Rutgers should be one of the last teams in given their lack of wins compared to other schools and having a quad 4 loss
 

Scarlet Shack

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Feb 3, 2004
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this scanairo is my hope

Get out of the 7,8,9. And 10 lines …because we can , as a 5 or 6 seed, beat a 4 or 5 seed and get to the sweet 16

Plus …if you get to the 5 or 6 line , and win your game , you get a 20-30-% chance that you end up with a 13 or 14 seed instead of the 3 or 4.

Far fewer upsets come to the 1 and 2 seeds

I’m gojng to enjoy the journey…and there is a long way to go, but there is nothing wrong , as a fan, for having the bigger prize in mind as you take steps in the process
 
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for starters any NCAA analysis at this point in pointless because there are 18 conference games left to play for most schools

however based on that analysis of q1 and 2 wins, yes Rutgers should be one of the last teams in given their lack of wins compared to other schools and having a quad 4 loss
Bac, that's the Rutgers Screw coming out of you. 😁

99% of the teams on the list have only one Quad 1 win, like Rutgers, so for you to say that Rutgers should be one of the last teams in the tourney isn't correct or truthful. Once we get into mid-January, many of these teams will separate from the pack, and I expect Rutgers to be one of them.
 

fluoxetine

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The team rankings one is a prediction, not if season ends today.

Torvik also has us as a 6 seed predicted, but 4th team out if season ended today

Our power ratings are good, so these predictions are expecting us to build a resume over the next 2.5 months
 
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Apr 8, 2002
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The team rankings one is a prediction, not if season ends today.

Torvik also has us as a 6 seed predicted, but 4th team out if season ended today

Our power ratings are good, so these predictions are expecting us to build a resume over the next 2.5 months
That doesn't make sense. Most teams in the "first 4 out" are borderline tourney teams. Not high-seeded teams. I admit I'm clueless about how basketball tourney teams are decided.
 
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fluoxetine

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That doesn't make sense. Most teams in the "first 4 out" are borderline tourney teams. Not high-seeded teams. I admit I'm clueless about how basketball tourney teams are decided.
First four out if season ended today, 6 seed predicted at end of season. Not both a 6 seed and 1st four out at the same time
 

PSAL_Hoops

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We don’t have an NCAA resume as of today.

One home win over a projected field team and 2 losses to teams not projected to be in the field. If the tournament started today that would not be an At Large resume.
 
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bitnez

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We don’t have an NCAA resume as of today.

One home win over a projected field team and 2 losses to teams not projected to be in the field. If the tournament started today that would not be an At Large resume.

A lot of at-large teams currently “projected” to be in the field don’t have traditional NCAA resumes.
 
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bac2therac

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We don’t have an NCAA resume as of today.

One home win over a projected field team and 2 losses to teams not projected to be in the field. If the tournament started today that would not be an At Large resume.

Its borderline but its waaaaaaay to early. My first one probably drops around Feb 1 and even that one may be done in groupings of teams rather than a traditional bracket
 
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