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I enjoyed the takeover this weekend and spun the dvr up. Thinking about Bailey Howell comments, I Couldn’t help but wonder if Jackson stopped our best teams from winning the NC because of integration or because they didn’t want us to be more successful than the rebels. Any thoughts from the old timers?
 

maroonmadman

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Probably a little of both. Ole Miss never has enjoyed it when we are successful. Ask Jackie if you don't believe me.
 

fedxdog

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It was race totally...remember, johnny vaught didn’t want married players or black players.
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

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As my little brother (who went to Ole Miss) perfectly stated, "It's not that Ole Miss was racist. They just didn't like black people."
 

mstateglfr

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Thinking about Bailey Howell comments, I Couldn’t help but wonder if Jackson stopped our best teams from winning the NC because of integration or because they didn’t want us to be more successful than the rebels.

It was motivated completely by fear. Fear of losing control.

Race based in every way.
 

RocketDawg

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Ole Miss didn't have anything to do with it. 99% of the (white) population of the state was against integration, and I suspect a goodly portion still are but they might not admit it.
 

HammerOfTheDogs

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However, Ole Miss is the FLAGSHIP of the State of Mississippi

The rest of the State took their cues from the leadership in our State, and Ole Miss was the one who promulgated it.

When the South was still under Reconstruction, and there were many in the South looking to help African-Americans integrate into our society, Ole Miss professors LQC Lamar and JZ George laid the philosophical foundations for Jim Crow that put African-Americans into de facto slavery for another century. Their philosophy spread to other States in the South.

There were even some Mississippi State students and alum that looked to Ole Miss as the flagship (I call them Vichy Bulldogs). This culminated when many went up to Ole Miss during the James Meredith riots.

However, leaders of The Mississippi State University saw the horror of what was happening, and in a brilliant move, head-faked Ole Miss-supporting legislators and law enforcement and easily left the State (In spite of massive road blocks) and went to the NCAA basketball tournament to play an integrated Loyola team.
 

thekimmer

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i don't know that I completely agree with this statement...

Ole Miss didn't have anything to do with it. 99% of the (white) population of the state was against integration, and I suspect a goodly portion still are but they might not admit it.

Of course how does one define a 'goodly portion' also one must keep in mind that anti integration beliefs are represented by a spectrum and not all or none.

I would say that the percentage of mississippians who's anti integration beliefs are equivalent to the prevailing sentiments in the 60s is less than 1%. Case in point, even among the 'segregation academies' that sprang up in the 60s and 70s that still operate today, most have enrolled minority students.
 

JoMo MoJo

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Of course how does one define a 'goodly portion' also one must keep in mind that anti integration beliefs are represented by a spectrum and not all or none.

I would say that the percentage of mississippians who's anti integration beliefs are equivalent to the prevailing sentiments in the 60s is less than 1%. Case in point, even among the 'segregation academies' that sprang up in the 60s and 70s that still operate today, most have enrolled minority students.

A lot of so-called “Hotty Toddy” fans are just that because of a love affair with the school’s racist past. These are the ones who never went to school there, never attend games but watch them on TV and “Ole Miss footbaw is muh life!” If they actually visited Oxford to see how it really is they would be mortified. The “Ole Miss” moniker is harkening to a past where Cotton was king and slavery was still in effect. They are actually embarrassed to be connected with the modern day state of Mississippi. That’s why they never wanted to go by Mississippi and why they were livid when Tha Kang started calling them that.

And there are still a lot of very racist people in Mississippi. They have to hide that **** deep down because of today’s environment. But you can usually pick them out of a crowd. They will be wearing something with Col Reb.
 
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