Would you want a one and done on this team next year. I am not talking about a grad transfer, but a Smith or Cockburn. Might help for one year, but does it hurt your team long term. I like players that I get to watch for at least 3 years. Thoughts?
One and done for Rutgers
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If he leads us to final 4 I’m fine with it.
Yes, but not a Cockburn type of 1 and done but a 1 and done lottery pick.
Every grad transfer is one-and-done. Have them in hoops and football. Does it matter that they’re freshmen vs grads?
Yes, I hope one of our freshmen plays well enough to jump straight to the NBA.
No, I don't even think Pike would want a player who's only using RU for one year to prep for the NBA. Changes the team dynamic and focus.
If a one and done wanted to come to Rutgers, you'd have to accept him esp if he has a good relationship with the staff.
Many (obviously not all) one and dones aren't all that they were cracked up to be, or they don't improve the team as much as expected... Of course, coaching and a good teamwork ethic make a big difference....
Although they may not end up as lottery picks, Arizona just played with 3 freshmen starters this year who are projected one and done first round picks. (Two already entered the draft and the third is expected to, and most mock drafts have all 3 as first round picks...) I watched a lot of Arizona games as well as a lot of RU games this year (LOVE YOU, BTN), and I think the teams were very evenly matched, despite Arizona's 3 projected one and done first round picks.
And I'm really glad that I'm an RU fan rather than an Arizona fan going into next season.. Love our team.
Although they may not end up as lottery picks, Arizona just played with 3 freshmen starters this year who are projected one and done first round picks. (Two already entered the draft and the third is expected to, and most mock drafts have all 3 as first round picks...) I watched a lot of Arizona games as well as a lot of RU games this year (LOVE YOU, BTN), and I think the teams were very evenly matched, despite Arizona's 3 projected one and done first round picks.
And I'm really glad that I'm an RU fan rather than an Arizona fan going into next season.. Love our team.
We took CJ Gettys, A Yenoah, why wouldn’t we take anybody that could help IF Pike thought he could fit in?
No its not. Me first guys can be a plus, but they can be cancers too. Anyone ever read about Barry Bonds time in college (was it ASU)? He was by far the best player on the team and the entire team voted to kick him off the team. The ENTIRE team.
If we had a 1 and done straight to NBA frosh, that's a completely dif thing than a grad transfer looking to step up to Major conference competition for their last year.
1 and done guys expect to be treated differently. And at RU and our lack of history they would think of themselves and entitled and above everyone else.
It would take a special (read:humble) guy for Pike to risk ruining his program for a shot at 1 year of glory. I think he's too smart to risk it - unless he sees the kid has real character and isn't selfish and self absorbed.
So hypothetically, if HS senior Kevin Durant wanted to come here for next season then jump to the NBA some of you are saying you wouldn’t want him?
That’s just nuts. Lol
That’s just nuts. Lol
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If John Kuminga wanted to come to Rutgers, yes of course. He's the #1 prospect in the 2021 class out of St Pat's and projected lottery pick in 2022 draft
a one and done is usually thought of as a superstar high school senior, something a Kentucky would get
I would not consider a college senior transfer as that,because the expected skill level is not the same.
You want those types of players!!!! C.J. and Yeboah were godsends.
Sometimes a one and done goes to college to learn fundamentals he wasn't taught in high school. Pike can offer that. One and done factories like Duke and Kansas don't really.
So I guess my answer is whatever the coach wants. I have no friggen idea...
So I guess my answer is whatever the coach wants. I have no friggen idea...
100%. Of course you want NBA talent. Is this a serious question?
Having potential NBA first round talent is great, but I've also seen plenty of one and done types who seem to just go through the motions while awaiting the NBA, and who never gave anywhere near as much effort and dedication to their college team as some of the Rutgers athletes gave this year.
If the kid has a questionable rep, of course you pass. Short of that, there is no reason you don't take NBA talent on your team. Pike would never do that. He's trying to get the very best talent he can, like every coach.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but since the one and done system began in 2006, I believe that 10 teams have won the NCAA tournament with NO one and done players, and only 4 teams with one and done players have become NCAA champion... And in the case of Villanova and North Carolina recently, their single one and done player wasn't the team's major contributor... Seems like teams who live and die by one and done players are always good, but often can't get over the hump for some reason..
Most everyone can agree Rutgers is an NCAA team next season. Throw in one player who isn't a cancer and has NBA talent, especially if it's a position of need, and that team isn't just an NCAA participant. They are a contender.
So Myles is going into his senior year, let's say, and a Towns type says he wants to go to RU. He tells Pike that he's only staying for one year and then he's declaring for the NBA. What do you tell Myles, knowing that Towns is going to start over him? Sorry Myles, even though you've been starting for the last three years, we want to win a championship so you're going to be a backup. Is that the kind of program you want to have?
Yes. It's all about winning. The players job is to be the best players they can be. One of the biggest pieces of a coaches job is to bring in the very best talent they can.
Myles would get ever chance to out play him in practice. And if you are a competitor, which Myles most certainly is, he'd welcome the comp.
Top programs recruit over current players. Look at Ohio St football. 5* back ups.
You tell Myles...you might have a final four on your resume
Did anyone actually read my post? You would need to consider each case differently but there is no blanket YES. Just because a guy is really good at basketball doesn't make him good at team ball.
For those of you out there who say its a no brainer, would you take a guy who doesn't feel practice is worth his time?
Would you take a guy who thinks the plays he wants to run are more important than what Pike wants to run? Would you take a guy who constantly disparages his teammates when they make mistakes because he thinks they suck? Would you take a guy with a ****** and entitled attitude? Would you take a guy who tells the coach he's not here to go to class, he's just here to get to the NBA as soon as possible. Would you take a guy who said there's nothing for him to learn playing at Rutgers, hrs just coming here because he's guaranteed to start immediately and boost his stock for the draft?
If you answered yes to any of these questions, you probably wouldn't be very successful as a college coach.
Granted, I don't think Pike would take a guy that said any of these things, but that's not the scenario I presented.
I also don’t get the mid major replacement players OSU is doing in basketball. Seth Towns will not get those averages in that conference. It’s too much elite defense in that conference.