I think we have a very good chance at starting 1-3. I don't see us winning P4 games on the road this year. We likely aren't beating Mizzou at home either (unless they've lost all their talent). He could be gone before the Alabama game quite frankly.
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I agree with this, and I’ll go ahead and add another caveat…..if he doesn’t start 4-0, just go ahead and fire him. Because if he’s 3-1 in the first 4, he’s guaranteed to be no better than 4-5 after November 7th. Next 5 games are two CFP teams from last year, two almost CFP teams from last year, and a Kiffin-led LSU in Baton Rouge. No way in hell that we win more than one of those games.
Sounds like a plan, once Lebby is fired name Arnett as HC, fire the whole staff, change the offense to RTGDFB, get Brad Peterson on the sideline as the boosters point man to run things…..what could possibly go wrong ?
if past is prologue Genes Page and Robby will be cheering every move.
if past is prologue Genes Page and Robby will be cheering every move.
Minn is expected to finish in the bottom half of the Big 10. 13th 14th area. We will win that game we will be the more talented team. I said last year before the year we would beat ASU and you all scoffed. This team we have is better than the 25 team by a lot.
Can we at least agree that playing any P4 on the road will be a challenge? We beat ASU in a dog fight, and you want to claim credit as a fortune-teller over a dog fight? We won a dog fight at home. That is what a P4 team is expected to do at home. I think Minnesota is dangerous because it is there, and they have a much better coach. I am basing it on those two factors alone. It is great that you think this team is better, but again, it almost has to be, right? Could it have been worse? Saying the 26 team will be better than the 25 team is a kin to saying today is the worst day of my life, so tomorrow has to be better. I would hope so.
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If by 13th-14th area you mean 9th, then yes. That is where they are projected. By both ESPN and USA Today.
I don't think you can put that expectation on him. Or 8 wins. If so, you really should have just fired him in December. I think 6 wins and he's back for sure. 5 wins is 50/50. And heck, even I would be kind of OK with keeping him if he wins 6 (if you do, should have just gone ahead and fired him in December). That would be 3 SEC/Big 10 wins. Not good enough to give him a big raise and extension, but probably good enough to give him another year.
Won't happen. Montgomery will take over. Hell, Greg Knox is still on the payroll.How ironic would it be if Lebby sh*ts the bed and we ask Arnett to be interim head coach again if we fire Lebby midway through the season?
Nothing matters any more. Lebby is NOT the guy! The next hire will be State’s next Football savant!
If we had known that Arizona State would not be a playoff contender and would instead finish unranked, everyone would have agreed with you.
In other words, you happened to be right, but not because we were better than we thought, but because Arizona State and most of our P4 opponents were worse than we thought.
6 SEC wins means at least 3 conference wins now plus Minnesota. I don't see it
He didn’t care since day 1 . He has been as lazy as he could possibly get away with since day 1. He only cared about making the money. He was/is just going thru the motions. He even admittedly joked about it when he forgot he was miked up for tv. All while the fans had to watch, yell, scream, and cry as the program took steps back every game. He’s been very hurtful. And now he’s just saying the same things he’s been saying over and over again. Oh and to add insult to his ability to evaluate. His prodigy quarterback that he stuck with waaaay too long now has an offer from Burger King for fry cook. Hope Lebby and Shapen both made a bunch off the Florida and Texas games when they threw it because they are gonna need it now.
Only at state. We never win games the other team just sucked more than we thought.
Don't worry, we don't win games either. Not sure whether the 2-17 record against P4 competition is more humiliating for Lebby, or the fact that he got absolutely demolished by Toledo in the most embarrassing game in Mississippi State football history, even worse than Maine which was at least a fluky game.
You hit the nail on the head why some on this message board and in the fan base doesn’t like Lebby they still can’t get over the Toledo loss. That’s just beaten into there existence.
If we are 4-5 going into Auburn game, he’s won 2 SEC games with a solid chance to win 4 and go 7-5.
firing him at that point would be incredibly dumb.
if he goes 6-6 or better, he isn’t getting fired this year. And shouldn’t. Not bc he is great or 6-6 is awesome but bc we have a hard time making a good hire 3 out of 4 times. If we fire him when he’s consistently improved (albeit not great improvement) WHO THE 17 is gonna come to MSU?
How is it UConn could hire Jason Candle and Jeff Lebby is still coaching here ?
Same reason the stands are empty, awful product on the field
We shouldn't "get over" the Toledo loss. It was inexcusable.
A MAC team has only won over an SEC team 4 times this century in 91 tries. 3 of those losses were close and fluky. There's just nothing to compare our absolute beatdown to NIU against.
You can see the details here: https://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/sec/mac
That’s the one spot I think is questionable for exactly what you said. However it would also mean that going into Vandy we would be 4-4 and likely on a four game losing streak which goes to five in a row. Everyone would be getting even more restless at that point and I’m not sure he deserves to continue. But yes, if he loses to Vandy there is a chance he could turn around the next week and beat Auburn and finish 6-6.
And don’t ever, EVER, sell short on how dumb Mississippi State can be.
That and hiring a so called OC guru from App State and handcuffing his ***. Decided he knew how to run an offense
Then I’ll go be the fing head coach or one of us before he coaches a damn offense again lord have mercy. That would be insane to the point I skip about 3-4 years of football watching all together or at least I say that lolHow ironic would it be if Lebby sh*ts the bed and we ask Arnett to be interim head coach again if we fire Lebby midway through the season?
what can I say I love MSU but 17 the 17 sry no more room for shiting the bed anymore.See here, SixPackers, we are gonna be 4-0 going into the Bama game. Believe that!! Now, who wants to talk to me about this piece of property I have for sale in the Okefenoke down in little ole Georgia.
I’m not sure you , the average fan understands the roster situation and lack of NIL we had in 2024. It’s was a borderline mid MAC talent team. Toledo also beat Pitt in 24 just as a reference. Matt Campbell lost to UNI FCS team his first year at ISU. Jackie lost to Memphis and ULM, Dan lost to South AL and Houston.
the program was in the ******* it was a total rebuild
85 nah bro. You were hell bent last year was going to be another 2-10. When state started 4-0 you were nowhere to be seen on this message board. You would ***** if we had anyone else as the coach.
But wait guess what… we return QB RB the our second best WR, our entire DL including Whitson, our starting LBs and safeties and the best corner in the SEC.
not to mention our OL will be LT McVay starting snaps at UNC and Bama, LG DJ Chester all sec freshman at LSU, returning starter at Center Boone, RG Prudhomme AR transfer Freeman Mercer transfer RT Steen starter from UVA or Shumpert Perkins
Yeah, I don’t get the feeling that season ticket sales are going particularly well. Our group wanted to add some seats in section 4 a few years back, and we ended up having to spread 10 seats across three rows to make it work. Looking at the map, we’ve got a lot more options now
I would agree that starting 4-0 and then going on a 5 game losing streak would be bad. If that happened, depending on how the 5 game losing streak looked, i could see us rightfully justifying a firing at that point.
Losing multiple one score games to good and even above average teams wouldn't justify it to me.
12 wins since '23, and only 2 of those in conference and by a grand total of 7 points , you're pretty much correct even when you weren't trying to be
-You keep harping on the terrible roster he inherited, he inherited a 5 win team from the year before, what happened to it to go from 5 wins to 2 and those 2 were against mighty E. KY and the worst team in the country in the previous decade, UMASS.
-Pittsburgh went 7-6 in 2024 (3-5 in conference) and that win over Pitt was a 2 point win in 6 OT's in a bowl game no less. Toledo finished 8-5