With time, does Cliff project to develop into an Oturu-type player?
I was thinking Oturu type also, maybe not quite as fast to develop on offense but the rest I can see.
With time, does Cliff project to develop into an Oturu-type player?
Nobody was being negative about the process nor what has been done thus far. The reality is like little at kids at Christmas it's nice to wish for things. It’s what we have seen happen at many schools but at Rutgers more so.So put those big boy pants on and maybe we will all get a nice surprise . What are YOU going to post if he does not sign here? Stop acting like this signing is the end of mankind. Right now much more serious things in the world.Why not just keep it to yourself then? We're here hoping for the best and a lot of us are interested in recruiting. No need to be so negative about the process, we've landed how many four stars under Pike and by most accounts have at least some shot here.
Probably 4-5Why not just keep it to yourself then? We're here hoping for the best and a lot of us are interested in recruiting. No need to be so negative about the process, we've landed how many four stars under Pike and by most accounts have at least some shot here.
So do I but I’m not concerned if he doesn’t . We as a team will be fine ...We have a very good coach and base.I don't expect Cliff to sign with us but I sure care if he comes here or not. Kid would be a difference maker here.
So do I but I’m not concerned if he doesn’t . We as a team will be fine ...We have a very good coach and base.
Oturu is an offensive juggernaut. Cliff has a lot of work to do in that facet of his game.
What happened with Montez Mathis recruiting? I don't recall the details on that one.
Because I have been down this same road for over 55 years with Rutgers
what I can’t control I don’t waste precious energy on
Why not just keep it to yourself then? We're here hoping for the best and a lot of us are interested in recruiting. No need to be so negative about the process, we've landed how many four stars under Pike and by most accounts have at least some shot here.
I’m thinking maybe jr year Cliff = sophomore year Otoru.I was thinking Oturu type also, maybe not quite as fast to develop on offense but the rest I can see.
I’m thinking maybe jr year Cliff = sophomore year Otoru.
Bob McAdoo? I don’t know. That’s a real offensive juggernaut.Not sure he gets to that level on offense as far as complete game. As RU82 says Oturu became an offensive juggernaut. In an older thread I even compared his offensive skill set to Bob McAdoo (for us old timers), not saying he is McAdoo but has qualities Bob did. But having seen Cliff, he doesn’t have bad form at all on his midrange shot. I can definitely see him getting better and better as he gets college training, game time, and confidence.
It is very clear that there's still a lot of old school RU fans that are still stuck in the A-10, Big East mindset, where there was no revenue and no plan, no facilities when it comes to recruiting.
The fans still in denial or nervous because of Tim Thomas, Lance Thomas etc, just are not aware of what being in this new revamped conference means. We play elite programs, just like the Old Big East, but we did so without any revenue and the promise that once we got TV exposure and ESPN, all would be cured.
The new normal has moved past this and Cliff and Jaden Jones as a potential tandem of the next 2 recruiting wins, changes things....not because it makes RU any better than other B1G schools, it just keeps pace with our peers.
It comes down to mindset and the staff did the 1st thing needed in order to win.....they didn't listen to what didn't happen before or looked at history of RU....they just built a program with players that fit.
It is about belief in what you see and how important it is to ignore what haters or others outside are saying....the handful of negative RU fans have been conditioned to think one way....it's tough to break bad habits....but I wouldn't be critical of others that don't believe RU is going to make the dance, land Cliff or start next season in the Top 25.
Some people see evidence right there, others wait for someone else to tell them or confirm it for them. I don't see anything indicating why Cliff cannot pick RU, other than history, the boogeyman or listening to other fanbases that don't believe in RU.
Cliff to RU, feels like it fits, makes sense and there's a path for success here. RU is a successful basketball program today...and that counts for something here.
Bob McAdoo? I don’t know. That’s a real offensive juggernaut.
I agree. I would like to say that a few weeks ago I offered to help mod the boardsPlease keep the political stuff to yourself. I know I speak for most people here (conservative or liberal), but we come to these boards to get a break from real life, including especially nasty political banter.
Thank you.
I figured he'd be too busy doing refinances right now. I'm thinking I should give him a call, actually.The Virus ain't stopping Hawk and his novel posts
WTF are you under 40 ? Who said anything about you not following basketball? The way things could go be happy if we have any sports by fall... He is NOT the Messiah of RU BB... the program is on a sound foundation ... Pike will try to close the deal and may already have done so...? sorry to rain on your personal parade ...Hope we get him but I ‘m not holding my breath over it... not everyone gets a Trophy. Others also are talking in the same terms. Learn to read.I’m still allowed to follow basketball, there are always more serious things in the world. And if he doesn’t sign here I’ll keep following basketball and be disappointed for a while.
Not sure where you’re going with all of this but it’s very negative and “woe is me”.
I think the fact that your coach, whatever he told the prospect and his “handlers” before the season became real and that goes a long way against the “bag”. It’s different when you can see the vision actually take place on the court.
Totally different kinds of players.Not sure he gets to that level on offense as far as complete game. As RU82 says Oturu became an offensive juggernaut. In an older thread I even compared his offensive skill set to Bob McAdoo (for us old timers), not saying he is McAdoo but has qualities Bob did. But having seen Cliff, he doesn’t have bad form at all on his midrange shot. I can definitely see him getting better and better as he gets college training, game time, and confidence.
Mac was total offense. That's all he thought about.Totally different kinds of players.
Not angry at all but you seem to be offended that I ‘m not over the moon losing Cliff if he doesn’t pick Rutgers...Like I said I have been an RU fan ‘67 ...then student,,,,then season ticket holder for both football and basketball ...oh and women’s BB under Grentz and Vivian...before you were born I bled scarlet ...I hope for your sake son Cliff doesn’t burst our bubble ...have a great nite and stay away from us old folks unless it’s to help...You’re very angry. I am under 40. I don’t think I ever said he’s the messiah. I know Pike will try to close the deal, that’s how recruiting works. In this case nobody gets a trophy, they get a basketball player. I know how to read.
Hopefully I’ve addressed your points and your rage has subsided.
Fill it with hand sanitizer and toilet paper then deliver it.Never underestimate the power of "the bag".
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The announcement is now only one week from tomorrow. Does anyone know what time Cliff is announcing at Roselle Catholic and if the announcement is open to the public? I only live a few minutes from Roselle Catholic and might be interested in attending the announcement.
Lol. It won’t be open. Weee in lockdown. He will announce in Twitter likeky. And you can’t have gatherings of more than 10 people. Where have you been?The announcement is now only one week from tomorrow. Does anyone know what time Cliff is announcing at Roselle Catholic and if the announcement is open to the public? I only live a few minutes from Roselle Catholic and might be interested in attending the announcement.
Not dictating, just asking a question. I don’t really see the value in coming to a basketball message board and then criticizing basketball talk, but that’s just me.
I haven't given up hope! Do the right thing Cliff!
Never underestimate the power of "the bag".
so true that bag can make a difference in where people go....lol
Lol. What did I say that was insensitive? We’re in lockdown if you haven’t noticed. There isn’t going to be a public announcement where you can just show up too. Guesing he will make some sort of social media announcement. What else can he do?Superfan01, Judging by your insensitive comment, you must be a fun guy to be around?
The Virus ain't stopping Hawk and his novel posts