Oklahoma had gone 5 years without a winning season before Stoops. You are right about the others though.
Omar Manning?
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Oklahoma had gone 5 years without a winning season before Stoops. You are right about the others though.
Yes, that’s the only one that was remotely close, but like I mentioned in a previous post, they were absolutely loaded with talent. We all know Blake was a recruiting ace and he recruited Top 5 classes every year. That is clearly a far cry from what we had going on.
I'm not asking Frost to be great but just get to a bowl game.
That alone should tell you what you need to know.
You cant build a program with losing seasons. A flash in the pan year at best.
That alone should tell you what you need to know.
You cant build a program with losing seasons. A flash in the pan year at best.
You just named a bunch of team that had a bunch of Top 100 talent. headcard said name teams and head coaches that took over worse then or equal to the Huskers and then produced national titles in 2-3 years. Not teams loaded with talent....
It’s amazing, Frost says he’s here and missed a few practices because of health and personal issues and how some of these guys are taking that running with it as if Manning isn’t here is beyond me. Omar Manning is still on roster. Hell, I just posted an article via 24/7 on Omar Manning and that should have cleared it up. Yet here we are....
it’s funny you mention Jim Harbaugh, sorry but I fail to see any National Titles won by him. The initial comment was name A few Head Coaches that took over a team worse then or equal to our Huskers and produced a National Title in 2-3 years.
And here is the interesting part genius...Jim Harbaugh at Stanford (his first ever Power 5 gig, just like Scott Frost) went 4-8 year 1 and then 5-7 year 2 (just like Scott Frost did his first 2 seasons). And then look how Jim Harbaugh ended up, he doesn’t appear to be this horrible coach and he went 4-8 and 5-7 his first 2 seasons at his first ever Power 5 head coaching gig...weird isn’t it?
But it is funny seeing you skipping that part and jumping right to his later on gigs at Michigan with plenty of talent in place. Jim at Michigan vs Frost at the Huskers is literally apples vs oranges.
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I purposely compare Nebraska to historic blue blood programs - now if Nebraska isn't a peer program to those teams then we can talk about comparing them to the likes of Colorado, BYU or Iowa
Harbaugh at Stanford in year 3 finished 2nd in the conference and in year 4 finished ranked 5th in the nation
Harbaugh took over a 1-11 Stanford team, a team that had only 10 wins the prior 3 years
Frost took over a program that had 19 wins the prior 3 years -- since you mentioned Harbaugh at Stanford - let's see how Frost compares in years 3 and 4 to Harbaugh (Frost should have a top 5 program next year)
Even Ferentz finished ranked in the top 10 in years 4, 5 and 6
as each year passes the exception to the rule of elite coaches win early become fewer and fewer -
Well unless things magically disappear, bowls games are a go this year and there appears to be no reason for them to suddenly pull them.
Sorry jib321, you are not going to suddenly hope in, cherry pick things and flip flop things around to fit your narrative like you tend to always do. Simply put, there a number of head coaches at their first power 5 gigs that’s struggled the first few years and still done great later on.
But I know, I know...you have this MASSIVE hard on for Frost because he’s a Husker head coach and your lover Bo Pelini and you dad Mike Riley got fired because they sucked and literally ruined our Huskers. So forgive me when I give Frost more the 2 seasons to rebuild our team after seeing Riley and Pelini absolutely ruin our team.
please show me where I cherry-picked things
you brought up Harbaugh at Stanford as an example, not me --- I simply pointed out what Harbaugh accomplished at Stanford in years 3 and 4 despite taking over a team with a much, much worse record than Frost did
please define great -
That’s easy, just go back to your post and read it. Again, the original comment was name a few Head coaches that took over a worse or equal to mess as Frost did with the Huskers ad won a National Title in 2-3 seasons. Pretty simple...
Lol you’re truly no genius, I’ll give you that. I compared Jim Harbaugh and Scott Frost on level playing ground. Both went 4-8 and 5-7 at their first ever power 5 gigs. You are the one that brought Jim Harbaugh into the discussion. I simply put it on equal grounds.
That’s easy, just go back to your post and read it. Again, the original comment was name a few Head coaches that took over a worse or equal to mess as Frost did with the Huskers ad won a National Title in 2-3 seasons. Pretty simple...
Lol you’re truly no genius, I’ll give you that. I compared Jim Harbaugh and Scott Frost on level playing ground. Both went 4-8 and 5-7 at their first ever power 5 gigs. You are the one that brought Jim Harbaugh into the discussion. I simply put it on equal grounds.
fair enough .. as you said above you put Harbaugh at Stanford and Frost at Neb on a level playing ground
assuming that to be true (even though Frost took over a program that averaged about 6 wins per season the prior 3 years and Harbaugh a team averaging ~ 3 wins per year)
Harbaugh year 3 -- 6-3 in conference (beat 2 top 10 teams) --- year 4 - 12-1 (top 5 ranking)
Frost --- year 3 ??? Year 4 ??? - will patiently wait and see where things compare between these 2 coaches on "level playing ground"
No one knows what Frost and the Huskers will do during year 3. And for the record, I’m fairly confident Jim Harbaugh at Stanford during year 3 didnt faces the Covid-19 issues, protocols and limitations. That and I’m sure Stanford probably had a few cupcake games to start their season off before they went into conference play. So there is going to be a difference when looking at year 3 results from normal times and normal seasons to the COVID-19 mess we all faced this year. That has to be viewed and considered.
Edited: then again, who knows right now. That actually could help us some compared to hurt us. I truly have no clue. This is a first ever for college football.
agree.
we'd probably have to hit the 2nd wave and have a super high positivity rate. Question. would they have bowl games without fans
Last year has given me the yips - both AM and Frost weren't good, which has slowed my enthusiasm. Frost may end up being a great coach, but it's going to take some time. Just hoping we can consistently bring in enough talent to be competitive until he gets his legs underneath him a little more.
The guy calls himself "Juandale" what'd he expect to happen? Anyone with a brain knows that that kind of information is either 100% false, or the dude was about to be investigated by the university and someone was gonna lose their job. We sign non disclosure agreements when you work for the team, ya know.
We're already preparing for more excuses this year...
Many teams have seemed not to have much of an issue with new protocols and are playing good football. I've seen some close, competitive games this year and the intensity didn't drop off even playing in mostly empty stadiums. These last 3 years have been one of the lowest points in Husker football history, and I'm honestly getting tired of the excuses.
yep. I could care less about comparisons or which arbitrary gates portend what future success.
just win some games this year and field a tough, disciplined team opponents don't steamroll week in and week out.
Dude said "Omar Manning opted out. He's not transferring. He'll be back next year from what I hear. COVID complications and injury are why"
Well yesterday Sipple while on the radio was asked if we see Manning against the Buckeyes and he said “No”. He was then asked if we see Manning at all this year and he said “Maybe”.
Interesting, this would not surprise me at all. I’ve been hearing that it’s unlikely that we’ll see him this year or perhaps ever wearing the scarlet and cream. No one is coming out saying why but there is heavy smoke in the air.
If Manning isn’t ready for the Bucknuts game he must of tweaked his ankle much worse or maybe he was one of the players who were positive for COVID but that’s just a guess..
Hope your way off on this “perhaps ever not wearing the scarlet and cream” stuff can’t understand why that would be the case..
I don’t have any insider info, just putting the pieces together from what I’m hearing. Just guessing he had a serious case of Covid and he won’t be available for OSU and might decide to sit it out this year. From our experience with skill players, if they aren't playing they aren’t going to stick around. That’s why I’m a lot more confident in someone staying if they actually suit up. It’s a “I’ll believe until I see it” kinda thing.
Whether he plays 4 games or one game or none he will still remain a Junior. He isn’t playing I would think by his choice, I don’t see the staff sitting him out not playing him unless it’s his decision this season..
