OM is legit

bulldognation

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Hate to admit it, but give them credit. They capitalized on miscues and have hung 43 on #2 Bama on their home turf. Tenacious defense and aggressive offense throughout the game for Freezes team. Much respect for what they did tonight.
That said, GO TO HELL OLE MISS.
I hope they lose every remaining game, Chad Kelly gets arrested and kicked off the team and get hit with lack of institutional control before limping away.
 

bulldognation

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Truth. And I almost turned every mention of his mobility for his 300 lb frame into a drinking game.
 

HD6

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You haven't heard anything because nothing is going to happen.
 
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OM gave up a good amount of pass yards to despite Bama having a subpar QB and a not so great group of WRs---this gives me some hope. I think the OM vs. A&M game could be one hell of a shoot out, I just wish it was in College Station.
 

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Tsun won the game handedly yes......and 5 is a difference maker.....but come on....-5 turnovers by Ala. Tsun could not really run and the Qb was always under pressure throwing crazy stuff that bounced of heads for scores. Tsun got e ery possible break and had to hang on. Are they good and resilient. ..yes...a world beater. ...no. We whup that butt.
 
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I wouldn't hold my breath. From what I've heard, discovery may not be goi g so great for the plaintiff. Granted, that comes from pro ole miss people, but they are at least situated in this deal to know
 

00Dawg

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If legit is a top 10 team this season, I'm buying. What I'm not buying is that #3 by their name in the AP poll and 11 first-place votes. An overrated Alabama had miscue after miscue last night from lineup cards to special teams, and it still took a miracle bouncing ball for UM to win.
Their D was gassed for the entire 4th quarter, and Bama's QB play was still so bad that UM managed to escape. Whoever said we have 3 QBs better than any of Bama's wasn't joking.
This is going to be one of those seasons where everyone looks beatable on a given weekend, and we'll end up with a herd of 1-loss teams once game 12 is played. I don't think UM will be one of them. LSU might be. Texas A&M might be. Not UM.
 

MaroonNation

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I think Alabama is Gawd awful. Bama had no pass rush on Tweeker all night. If you noticed Swag's body language he couldn't have felt more at ease and comfortable out there. He had no fear what-so-ever. That is not Bama football. I don't know which team has more quit in them, Bama or Auburn, but it is rare times indeed in the state of Alabama.
 

NCDawg.sixpack

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Alabama isn't "Gawd awful". Admittedly, their QB's don't seem to be all that good right now, but they have quality athletes everywhere else.
 

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I think Alabama is Gawd awful. Bama had no pass rush on Tweeker all night. If you noticed Swag's body language he couldn't have felt more at ease and comfortable out there. He had no fear what-so-ever. That is not Bama football. I don't know which team has more quit in them, Bama or Auburn, but it is rare times indeed in the state of Alabama.

Kelly was under pressure all night.
He got rid of the ball under 3 seconds almost every time. Go watch it again.
 

Chappy.sixpack

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Hate to admit it, but give them credit. They capitalized on miscues and have hung 43 on #2 Bama on their home turf. Tenacious defense and aggressive offense throughout the game for Freezes team. Much respect for what they did tonight.
That said, GO TO HELL OLE MISS.
I hope they lose every remaining game, Chad Kelly gets arrested and kicked off the team and get hit with lack of institutional control before limping away.

i think this is pretty accurate. I hope the most truthful part ends up being the last paragraph. But as much as I hope they lose their next 9 games, it is obvious we have way too many who will just keep moving the bar on OM and simply will not give them credit.

As we (as well as the whole country) were saying after 2 weeks, "they have only played high school teams" (which was accurate although they did beat them silly). The main line everyone was saying was we'll see what they are when they play at Bama. And then they just went about building up a 3 score lead twice in T-town and managed to hang on for a win. I can't stand the little shites, but I am not going to be so blinded that I just continue to move the bar on them. I watched some of the Ohio State game, and either one of those teams last night (as well as us and LSU) could beat the Buckeyes tomorrow on a neutral field and yet they are ranked #1. No one has a better win at this time than OM and you certainly can't fault them for beating the hell out of their other two opponents. They have been the best, most complete team I have watched yet this year so I will give them their props until they fall (which I hope more than anything is in two weeks in Gainesville!).
 

Sapsdawg

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Let's not go crazy. They are good, but they still have issues people aren't talking about. They got 24 points on 60 yards of short fields and a miracle TD play. they gave up 500 yards to a team with sub par QB play. 500 yards that no one is talking about. I think they are solid and a very tough out, but they still have some issues too.
 

MaroonNation

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We'll see how they do when they don't have the preseason practices and first three weeks of this season to prepare for the opponent. Let's be real, they weren't game planning for Fresno and who ever else they played. Let's see how well they do when they have one week to prepare.
 

RebelBruiser

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Let's not go crazy. They are good, but they still have issues people aren't talking about. They got 24 points on 60 yards of short fields and a miracle TD play. they gave up 500 yards to a team with sub par QB play. 500 yards that no one is talking about. I think they are solid and a very tough out, but they still have some issues too.

Looking at that a different way, it was just under 5 yards per play, 4.98. Compare to the 5.52 per play that you allowed versus LSU.

The yardage numbers were skewed because we were both playing hurry up. We allowed too many third down conversions. Defensively, that's my big concern. We have to get off the field. They were 11 of 20 on third down, and those weren't all 3rd and 1 or 3rd and 2 conversions. Many of them were 3rd and 6 or longer, plays where you're supposed to get off the field.

People are ignoring that Bama's last two TDs came 1) after a 4th and 10 conversion where the QB nearly got sacked, and 2) after an onsides kick where it's questionable whether they could've been called for batting. Yes, we had some fortunate breaks, but Bama had some of their own too helping put them in position to have a chance.

Bama's FG attempt to tie the game at 3 early in the 2nd quarter was the last snap Bama took in the Ole Miss half of the field when the score was within one score. They were never within one score with possession of the ball on our half of the 50 after that point in the game.

I personally see some flaws that we need to address. I have concerns with our LBs. I have concerns with our OL, especially with Tunsil sitting and the injuries. Other than that though, I think we're in pretty solid shape. Bo was a pretty good QB, but Kelly appears to be a significant upgrade. He's got a little bit of work to do on his reads, but he will get better there. Our WRs are deeper than last year. Our DL is still stout and probably even better at stopping the run than last year. They held Bama to 4.48 yards per carry (eliminating the QB scramble plays that were not designed runs).

Injuries could happen at places where we can't afford them, but if we're relatively fortunate on the injury front, we should be able to sustain a high level of play.
 

bulldognation

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Jesus you guys are unbelievable.

A team goes into an opponents stadium that they've historically had little success in and exits with a victory... one they almost gave away in the end. People stand up and take notice because it's a top-10 opponent and they rarely lose in that situation. It's admittedly impressive.

Sound familiar? The similarities between MSU @ LSU 2014 and OM @ Bama 2015 are uncanny. Now they don't have the three consecutive weeks of top ten ranked opponents we did to get there, but they did have the luxury of starting out fairly high in the polls. That said I'm convinced, sickening though the thought may be, that they will ascend to #1 this season. People will no doubt start to question Ohio States schedule against the SEC West slate the same way FSU did in their slip last year.
 

pmack65

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Personally you're not the # 3 team in the country. Some of you're analysis is correct but y'all only had 2 drives which resulted in FG's. Approximately 150 yards in passing on 2 plays, a lucky tip and a blown coverage (bamas fault). Bama has no QB nor wide receivers, had 5 turnovers, which yall did what you're suppose to do and take advantage and score, but you only won by 6 points. The defense which is suppose to be your strong suit gave up 500+ yards and offensively still no running game and Kelly, who made maybe 2-3 good throws wasn't overly impressive. Are you a good team, yes, idid you deserve to win yes, top 10 not IMO. Still a long way to go but the pollsters are over rating you.

still
 

RebelBruiser

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So...put someone else in that spot based on what they've shown.

Ohio State has the reputation of last year, but they were down at half to Virginia Tech and were aided greatly by VT's QB getting hurt. They also trailed to Northern Illinois early and had to hang on for a 7 point win. TCU had to fight to hold off a mediocre Minnesota team and let SMU hang around a while. Baylor let Lamar (1AA) hang around with them for a half.

Michigan State's big win is a home win over an Oregon team that many don't think will win the Pac-12, and their other two wins are by 13 and 14 points over Western Michigan and Air Force respectively. Notre Dame lost their starting QB, and they're really getting hit hard with injuries. They also needed a Hail Mary type play to beat Virginia.

Georgia and LSU have looked strong in the times they've come out, but they both have shown flaws.

I think you get the point. Go ahead and try to put together an unbiased view of a poll. There aren't many teams out there that look flawless or unbeatable or look like clear Top 5 schools. We may not be Top 5, and I know we're not perfect, but we have a lot in our favor, and at this point, we would probably be favored in all 9 of our remaining games if Vegas put a line on them.
 

Sapsdawg

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I don't have a problem putting you in the top 10 (farther the fall....hahaha.....j/k). We seem to agree in the main...you have some issues you need to clean up. Bama got 3 3rd and 10's on the last drive against us last year. We make 1 stop and we win. We couldn't. The minus no one was talking about is you giving up 500 yards as I noted below. Let's look on the other side of that. The plus no one is talking about is who gives a rat's *** how you won or by how much. I don't think you can measure the confidence builder this has on your team and they will play even better. Confidence removes timidity and results in greater aggression and performance.
 

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Ole Miss might not be the 3rd best in the country, but they definitely have the best win so far. I think by the end of the year Ohio State will be near unbeatable though. They just have too much depth which is what pushed them through last season as well.
 

RebelBruiser

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Ole Miss might not be the 3rd best in the country, but they definitely have the best win so far. I think by the end of the year Ohio State will be near unbeatable though. They just have too much depth which is what pushed them through last season as well.

I tend to agree with you, but part of me wonders if they're FSU 2014.

FSU was returning a lot from that 2013 team that was so dominant. The 2014 version never lived up to that. They managed to avoid losses by playing just well enough against the best teams on their schedule, but they played down to A LOT of teams on their very weak schedule.

It's too early to tell on tOSU, but they definitely played down to NIU and even to Va. Tech for a little while. They can play down to every opponent prior to Michigan State and still not lose any of those games, but we'll see. I don't believe they're 2014 FSU yet, but that NIU game looked exactly like a 2014 FSU game. If they have 2-3 more of those before Michigan State, I think we can put them in that category.

ETA: My original point though was that I think most teams are flawed. Even Bama, to me, has a chance to be a national title team, but they clearly have a question mark at QB, and their secondary is young. They have an NFL front 7 though, and they have their usual ground game. It should make for a pretty fun season. I thought TCU and Ohio State would look invincible this year, but even both of them have shown cracks. That means we're in for a wild ride the rest of the year.
 
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patdog

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I doubt their win over Bama is a better win than Michigan State's win over Oregon. But I agree with Bruiser. Who are you going to put above them at this point? They may be a little high at #3, but not much.
 

RebelBruiser

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I doubt their win over Bama is a better win than Michigan State's win over Oregon. But I agree with Bruiser. Who are you going to put above them at this point? They may be a little high at #3, but not much.

I'm going to be curious to watch the rest of the SEC and Pac-12 seasons on that. It's possible both Oregon and Bama run the table, or that one of them loses 3-4 games given the depth of both leagues. I don't want to pronounce either dead yet, because they've both been 11-1 type machines for so long now.

The one thing I do know is that Michigan State has a MUCH easier road to staying high in the rankings. I know we can all agree on that.

Central Michigan
Purdue
@Rutgers
@Michigan
Indiana
@Nebraska
Maryland
@Ohio State
Penn State

So...aside from Ohio State, you've got MAYBE Nebraska or Penn State or Michigan that could give them trouble. Lots of gimmes on that schedule.

I just hope that out of Michigan State and Ohio State, the playoff committee doesn't see fit to reward the loser of that game with a playoff spot after going 11-1.
 

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Let's see

Let's not go crazy. They are good, but they still have issues people aren't talking about. They got 24 points on 60 yards of short fields and a miracle TD play. they gave up 500 yards to a team with sub par QB play. 500 yards that no one is talking about. I think they are solid and a very tough out, but they still have some issues too.

how many teams hold bama under 5.0 YPP this season. I'd bet it happens at most two more times, and probably not more than once.
 

ShrubDog

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I Bama had no pass rush on Tweeker all night. If you noticed Swag's body language he couldn't have felt more at ease and comfortable out there. He had no fear what-so-ever.

Thats the good thing about the NCAA. He can take his meds (adderall) and not be suspended for PED's like the NFL. Dudes jaw was about to jack off the hinges.
 

Sapsdawg

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Ole Miss did not hold Bama to under 5 YPP and Bama got 500 yards of offense despite 5 turnovers. I bet Bama does not have over 500 yards of offense in SEC games many times this year (just jinxed us, now they'll go for 600 against State).
 

RebelBruiser

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Ole Miss did not hold Bama to under 5 YPP and Bama got 500 yards of offense despite 5 turnovers. I bet Bama does not have over 500 yards of offense in SEC games many times this year (just jinxed us, now they'll go for 600 against State).

According to the Box Score on CBS, they had 495 yards on 100 plays, or 4.95 YPP. According to the ESPN Box Score, they had 503 yards on 101 plays, or 4.98 YPP. I don't know which is accurate, or if either is.