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manatree

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To guarantee you are able to, yes. I’d like to say it’s a safe bet that they’ll show all the US matches live but Peacock takes any question about it out of play.
If you're watching on one of the traditional cable channels and it's not a medal match, you run the risk that they will cut away during the match to show the medal ceremony for a different sport.
 

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Yep, another good point.
If you're watching on one of the traditional cable channels and it's not a medal match, you run the risk that they will cut away during the match to show the medal ceremony for a different sport.
 

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I'm not sure what grounds she has to appeal, in that it's in the rules, and not an interpretation error or judging error, etc.

 

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I'm not sure what grounds she has to appeal, in that it's in the rules, and not an interpretation error or judging error, etc.


In my opinion, I think it is a weirdly harsh rule that if you miss weight that your results for the entire tournament are scrubbed and the person you beat when you made weight is advanced. I would have thought that the results would be a Silver by DNF or something similar.
 
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In my opinion, I think it is a weirdly harsh rule that if you miss weight that your results for the entire tournament are scrubbed and the person you beat when you made weight is advanced. I would have thought that the results would be a Silver by DNF or something similar.

I go back and forth on this. You can argue that 1) she picked the wrong weight class, 2) she knew for X number of years that she had to make weight 2 days, and 3) it's in the rules.


The flip side of it is that it seems unnecessarily harsh. It's as though her matches in day 1 of competition don't count, which is hard to rationalize.

My comment "I'm not sure what grounds she has to appeal, in that it's in the rules," isn't based on either of the above sentiments. It's years of dealing with athletes, coaches, parents, and fans, all arguing something concerning the rules. Sometimes we, as officials, try to educate them on the rule. Other times, especially if they are aggressive or we are exhausted, we'll just reply "that's the rule," and move on/away. Something that is repeated over and over again at referee training sessions is that we're paid to enforce the rules as they are written, regardless of whether we agree with the rule or not.
 
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Looks like an exact 5 am wake up isn’t needed to see the NLWC guys:

 
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I go back and forth on this. You can argue that 1) she picked the wrong weight class, 2) she knew for X number of years that she had to make weight 2 days, and 3) it's in the rules.


The flip side of it is that it seems unnecessarily harsh. It's as though her matches in day 1 of competition don't count, which is hard to rationalize.

My comment "I'm not sure what grounds she has to appeal, in that it's in the rules," isn't based on either of the above sentiments. It's years of dealing with athletes, coaches, parents, and fans, all arguing something concerning the rules. Sometimes we, as officials, try to educate them on the rule. Other times, especially if they are aggressive or we are exhausted, we'll just reply "that's the rule," and move on/away. Something that is repeated over and over again at referee training sessions is that we're paid to enforce the rules as they are written, regardless of whether we agree with the rule or not.
I believe both your points are valid. Plenty of time to prepare. If you are going to eat between day 1 and 2, then you had better have a plan to get down or be well under on day 1.

Scrubbing the results is wrong. She won X number of matches at the Olympics and made it to the finals. Amazing accomplishment. I remain conflicted about what to do. I might consider amputating a finger, Soprano style.
 

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I go back and forth on this. You can argue that 1) she picked the wrong weight class, 2) she knew for X number of years that she had to make weight 2 days, and 3) it's in the rules.


The flip side of it is that it seems unnecessarily harsh. It's as though her matches in day 1 of competition don't count, which is hard to rationalize.

My comment "I'm not sure what grounds she has to appeal, in that it's in the rules," isn't based on either of the above sentiments. It's years of dealing with athletes, coaches, parents, and fans, all arguing something concerning the rules. Sometimes we, as officials, try to educate them on the rule. Other times, especially if they are aggressive or we are exhausted, we'll just reply "that's the rule," and move on/away. Something that is repeated over and over again at referee training sessions is that we're paid to enforce the rules as they are written, regardless of whether we agree with the rule or not.
What would have happened if she withdrew due to "injury" right before stepping on the scale? She probably knew she was over weight, so if she was injured would her entire tournament have been scrubbed? Do you still have to make weight if injured and unable to complete?
 

manatree

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I go back and forth on this. You can argue that 1) she picked the wrong weight class, 2) she knew for X number of years that she had to make weight 2 days, and 3) it's in the rules.


The flip side of it is that it seems unnecessarily harsh. It's as though her matches in day 1 of competition don't count, which is hard to rationalize.

My comment "I'm not sure what grounds she has to appeal, in that it's in the rules," isn't based on either of the above sentiments. It's years of dealing with athletes, coaches, parents, and fans, all arguing something concerning the rules. Sometimes we, as officials, try to educate them on the rule. Other times, especially if they are aggressive or we are exhausted, we'll just reply "that's the rule," and move on/away. Something that is repeated over and over again at referee training sessions is that we're paid to enforce the rules as they are written, regardless of whether we agree with the rule or not.

I agree with all that you said. You need to know the rules and follow them. Officials can’t decide to ignore the rules in this case. However, I think they really need to change the rules.

I remain conflicted about what to do. I might consider amputating a finger, Soprano style.

Trust me, as someone who has lost a toe, amputating digits is not an effective means of weight loss.
 

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WOW! This almost brings a tear of joy in my eyes to see her succeed at the highest pinnacle after so many years of close calls!!

"After 7 straight trips to the World Championships & Olympics, @sarhilde has done it! 🇺🇸 She has broken through and is an OLYMPIC CHAMPION! 🇺🇸

2018: World Silver
2019: DNP
2020: Olympic Bronze
2021: World Silver
2022: World Bronze
2023: World Bronze
2024: GOLD! 🥇"
 

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Man that alarm felt brutal. I have Mat A and Mat C up on some stream with no commentary. Have I missed any of the PSU/American men's freestyle wrestlers? Did I get up 2 hours early just for the hell of it?
 

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Man that alarm felt brutal. I have Mat A and Mat C up on some stream with no commentary. Have I missed any of the PSU/American men's freestyle wrestlers? Did I get up 2 hours early just for the hell of it?
No, Brooks up next on mat C
 

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Brooks up 2-1 at the break. Scored on a pretty single into a double.
 

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4-1 lead for Brooks. Another beautiful single and then drove through.
 

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Brooks wins 4-3

Brooks with two TDs, he gave up a step out and then a caution and 1 for fleeing
 

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Brooks wins his opener.
Final was 4-3. Brooks led 4-1 late before being hit with I believe two stalling points late. Waiting on clarity there but either way he better two takedowns to his opponents zero and gave those two points up with about a second left.
 
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