Ole Miss QB Situation

[pmdawg]

Rosebowl mentioned today that it looks like they'll remove Patterson's redshirt and he'll start Saturday.

What happens if they lose out and miss a bowl? You've wasted a full year of eligibility on the best QB in the previous recruiting class for 3 games. I'm sure that I am not the only one that has assumed Shea would transfer after the NCAA drops the hammer, that'll put a major hit on his future

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

It simple, they've got to try and make sure they beat us. There is no way they can accept to lose to us with the NCAA breathing down their back.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

This is true. Amazing too, seeing how they've gotten us 2 straight. Pressure should be off of them but instead it's ratcheted, and not in a good way. They'll fall apart if we show up to play.

 

[DogStuckAtUM.sixpack]

Freeze is about to 17 Jason Pellerin sideways if/when he starts Patterson.

He's basically telling Pellerin, thanks for playing mop up duty behind Chad, but you're not the future of our team. Say Pellerin transfers in the spring (which I think he will)...that leaves Freeze with just Patterson and an incoming freshman. I'd hate to be the new Ole Miss coach in 2017 after Freeze gets a show-cause. Oof...

 

[pDigital32Dawg]

Two words that explain why they would burn his redshirt: John Cohen

 

[thf24]

I wouldn't play if I were him. Tons to gain on multiple fronts with practically nothing to lose by keeping his redshirt intact.

 

[patdog]

If he's your best QB, you've got to play him. You play to win today, not in the hopes he's still there and actually good, in 2020.

 

[jb1020]

I'm still not convinced he plays

Hell, i doubt he really wants too. He's supposed to be their savior...he has no line, no run game and no experience at this level.

Even if he plays good, there is a chance they go 0-3 and miss a bowl. What a start for the second coming.

 

[RocketDawg]

I wouldn't play if I were him. Tons to gain on multiple fronts with practically nothing to lose by keeping his redshirt intact.

If he refuses to play, I would think he stands a good chance of being kicked off the team for insubordination.

 

[AlCoDog]

I don't have big sources, but I have asked some guys about this, and they say Patterson badly wants to play. He is campaigning for it.

 

[MSUDC11]

He is an 18 year old competitive athlete. Why the heck wouldn't he want to play?

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

If he refuses to play, I would think he stands a good chance of being kicked off the team for insubordination.

Patterson could ring Freeze's doorbell, kick him in the nuts, and take a dump on his porch and not lose a second of playing time. It would take capital murder for him to be dismissed.

 

[AlCoDog]

Ask Jalen Hurd.

 

[RightOfCenter]

I know it was GA South but Pellerin did not look nearly as lost as when Bo went down at ARK and the other two got to play.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

I am getting flashbacks to 14 when we heard how Bo couldn't barely walk and then he lit us up. Freeze said earlier this week that Pack and Engram could get snaps. They are not going to give any truthful info on this until they have too. Mullen does the same thing.

 

[thekimmer]

Why not? What's he got to lose?...

Rosebowl mentioned today that it looks like they'll remove Patterson's redshirt and he'll start Saturday.

What happens if they lose out and miss a bowl? You've wasted a full year of eligibility on the best QB in the previous recruiting class for 3 games. I'm sure that I am not the only one that has assumed Shea would transfer after the NCAA drops the hammer, that'll put a major hit on his future

The NCAA hammer is about to fall. That could very well prompt a guy with options like patterson to transfer and even if he doesn't will likely spell the end to any post season play for several years.

So why not go for it?

 

[thf24]

If he refuses to play, I would think he stands a good chance of being kicked off the team for insubordination.

If you make a guy redshirt for 3/4 of a season, I don't think you have grounds to object if he doesn't want to burn it for the final 1/4. Doesn't sound like that's the case though. Patterson must know at this point it's all but certain OM will be hit hard by the NCAA, and if he stands to be punished as individual then he knows that chance exists as well. By burning his redshirt, he's a) weakening his potential case to transfer and play without sitting out, and/or b) giving up time he could possibly count towards a potential NCAA suspension should it come down. If he wants to give those up should they become reality just to play three games in a shot season, then by all means go for it.

 

[CoolDawg]

Two words that explain why they would burn his redshirt: John Cohen

What does Cohen have to do with this?

 

[DancingRabbit]

The biggest fear for Hugh is if Patterson sucks. No carrot to keep the natives

satiated for next year.

Patterson could be a great recruit but suck this year because he's green. How many passing QBs have been great as a true freshman?

Hugh may want to keep him under wraps as a mysterious savior for his own personal reasons.

 

[patdog]

I suspect that's why we haven't seen Patterson so far this season. Not necessarily that he sucks, but I think Freeze saw him in August practice and knew he was nowhere near ready to play in the SEC this year and Pellerin simply beat him out for the backup QB spot. That's when he decided to redshirt him. I know what Rosebowl said, but I'm guessing Patterson is practicing as the backup this week and they'll give every snap the rest of the season to Pellerin if they can.

 

[msstate7]

I suspect that's why we haven't seen Patterson so far this season. Not necessarily that he sucks, but I think Freeze saw him in August practice and knew he was nowhere near ready to play in the SEC this year and Pellerin simply beat him out for the backup QB spot. That's when he decided to redshirt him. I know what Rosebowl said, but I'm guessing Patterson is practicing as the backup this week and they'll give every snap the rest of the season to Pellerin if they can.

I have a family member that goes to OM. A football player told him Patterson will be starting this week. Now who knows if the football player knows this as fact or just guessing.

If I'm freeze, I play pellerin. aTm got abused by a running qb last week. If freeze plays Patterson, pellerin likely to leave and who knows what Patterson does if sanctions are heavy. Playing Patterson pretty much guarantees om has 2 qb's on scholarship next season and that's if Patterson stays

 

[engie]

Alot of reason for him to want to play if he's intending on transferring. It essentially extends his career 3 games regardless of how many years he plays.

If he's staying at OM regardless -- it doesn't make sense to play him now.

 

[thekimmer]

There are obvious problems with playing a guy who doesn't want to play....

If he refuses to play, I would think he stands a good chance of being kicked off the team for insubordination.

The most obvious is his performance. How much effort do you think you'd get from a guy who doesn't want to be out there?

The second is his future with your team. He would be gone at the end of the year.

If he is willing, you play him. If he is not, you can't.

 

[coach66]

You have to play along, Cohen is William Wallace right now*.

nm

 

[DogStuckAtUM.sixpack]

We know good and well how those mysterious saviors/secret weapons work out...

arcetoclarkku

 

[grimedawg1]

Can Patterson be ready?

I'm sure for close to 3 months that Patterson has gotten very limited reps in practice. Why would he? He's redshirting, right? I wonder how much he has had real, substantive practice the last few months. Throwing him out there in 3 SEC games with little practice or preparation would seem to be a bad decision to me.

This seems to be a massive screw up by Freeze from the start of the year if he plays Patterson now. If he plays Patterson, that means Patterson was clearly the number 2 QB on the team all along. But, he made a decision that he would try to get through the season with only one QB - knowing Kelly was a big part of their run game as well as their pass game. Imagine if Ole Miss were where they thought they were going to be - sitting with a chance to compete for Atlanta this late in the year - and then Kelly is hurt. If that was the case, Ole Miss was 8-1 or 7-2 with Texas A&M coming up and Kelly out. You know this kid has truly been your second QB but haven't played him or prepared him because you hoped Kelly could play all year without getting hurt? He's going to go in to that kind of game not having Patterson game ready - with that much on the line for Ole Miss? If he was the number 2 all along, he should have played and gotten spot duty here and there in games and gotten more reps in practice. Regardless of how it works out, his whole handling of Patterson this year is ridiculous if you take the redshirt off now.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

One thing to remember is that Pellerin was getting snaps every game and had his own offensive package kinda like Dak in 2012. So maybe it was clear that he was more of a situational QB than a true number 2.

 

[patdog]

Not the least of which is having a guy who doesn't want to play on your roster in the first place. If you've got a player who doesn't want to play, you've got a problem. I swear, I think some of you don't have a clue about what competitive sports is.

 

[patdog]

You nailed it. If Patterson was the #2 QB, you've got to get him snaps in September. I still think he's the backup this weekend. But we'll see. Also a possibility Sumlin takes the redshirt off his FR QB too, so we could see any combination of 4 QBs in that game.

 

[RightOfCenter]

I think throwing a true freshman out there in the road in front of 102k, with two NFL pass rushers is a great idea.**