Ole Miss Coaching Search

[Spiderman.sixpack]

I see the Land That Forgot time is still in Cloud Coo-Coo Land.

I see the names of Leach, Strong, Frost, Petino, Miles.

I also see that they say they can pay $5million and get somebody like that.

Here is reality and precedent........

Anybody worth paying $5 million to, is not taking that job.

Why would a good, sane, coach leave where they are at ( which , if they are worth $5 million, must be a winning program), or not wait until a stable, bigger job opens?

Answer, they won't.

Georgia, South Carolina, LSU, Mizzou, and Florida have all opened up in the last couple of years.

Who did they get?

A DC, a DC who was a failed head coach at a top 10 job, a DL coach who is also a failed HC, another DC, and a 1 year HC at a non Power Five.

AND....... they weren't looking down the barrel of the NCAA's loaded gun.

Now let's look at OM's last 13(13!!!!!) coaches since Vaught got "heart trouble" aka intergration, (and lived damn near 40 more years).......

1) A hand picked assistant and former player
2) Vaught again for a year
3) Another staff member promoted
4) The only outlier in all 12 coaches was next, an up in comer who was at a power 5 (who promptly went 20-34-1 and left for to take the HC job at DUKE!!!)
6) A non power 5 HC who was also an alum,
7) A DC who served as interim
8)A DC
9) An OC
10) A DL coach
11) A burned out retread HC who had just been fired
12) Another non power 5 HC with 1 year of experience who grew up 1 hour away from the OM campus and had a taste to play for play, in more ways than one
13) An OL coach who is a 2nd generation player alum.

See a pattern?

What in the world, especially with an NCAA kick to the *** coming, makes you think you will make a better hire than you have in the past?

Sorry to inject some sanity, but it won't be better, it most likely will be worse, or what you already have in place.

So yeah, you can play $5 million, but if you pay that to what you have always historically hired, y'all are crazier than I even think you are.

But hey, you did make McGriff a millionaire before he had ever called a defense in his life.

Get damn real.

 

[MeridianDog]

Oh Grasshopper,

I would take their coaching job for $5 million tomorrow, no questions asked.

I would require a two year contract and half up front. I would not care what they did, if they cam to practice, landed up in jail, Whatever. I find that too much pressure on these young men messes with their mojo and overall team moxie.

If they wanted to contract with me for ten years and would pay half up front, I would accept that also.

I have successfully coached t-ball and youth soccer for four years and was a scoutmaster eight years. I can handle steaming caldrons of male hormones. I took coaching baseball one summer under Ron Polk and was the designated cheat the correct multiple choice answer from my test paper non athlete in a summer football player and cheerleader A&P course.

I have advanced degrees in subject matter that will scare the hell out of most football players, so I can bamboozle them if needed and impress them with brilliance as long as someone else calls the plays.

My credentials are impeccable and I know how to spell Landshart.

As far as I am concerned, they could have me tomorrow, if I get half of the contract money up front.

edited to add:

Sorry, I missed one of your points. They can call me Leach, Strong, Frost, Petino, Miles, Saban, whatever they like. As long as I get half of my contract money up front I couldn't care less about a name. Having it prefaced with "Coach" would be nice, but I can live with forgetfulness on their part in that respect also.

 

[Spiderman.sixpack]

Oh Grasshopper,

I would take their coaching job for $5 million tomorrow, no questions asked.

I would require a two year contract and half up front. I would not care what they did, if they cam to practice, landed up in jail, Whatever. I find that too much pressure on these young men messes with their mojo and overall team moxie.

If they wanted to contract with me for ten years and would pay half up front, I would accept that also.

I have successfully coached t-ball and youth soccer for four years and was a scoutmaster eight years. I can handle steaming caldrons of male hormones. I took coaching baseball one summer under Ron Polk and was the designated cheat the correct multiple choice answer from my test paper non athlete in a summer football player and cheerleader A&P course.

I have advanced degrees in subject matter that will scare the hell out of most football players, so I can bamboozle them if needed and impress them with brilliance as long as someone else calls the plays.

My credentials are impeccable and I know how to spell Landshart.

As far as I am concerned, they could have me tomorrow, if I get half of the contract money up front.

You might be one of the most qualified to apply

 

[MeridianDog]

I am as old as dirt, too, so I have that white hair look going for me.

Winner.

 

[GloryDawg]

Hire C34 that would show us.

 

[engie]

They have a perfect storm working against them. The same as when they made the Freeze hire, only now including massive NCAA trouble, with the possibility of open transfers.

Realistically: Lost the state in 2017, very well might not get a single player in MS that State wanted in 2018, and are fighting an uphill battle in a loaded 2019. Their talent situation is pretty bad, and it will be totally brutal if they lose Shea. Have nothing else at QB at all. Still can't run the ball. No underclassman talent on D. It's a 3-4 year rebuild right now and likely to get longer. So, their situation would require patience in the next coach regardless -- and they are famous for having a quick trigger. It's just a brutal situation.

If they want a successful head coach, they very well might have to go to FCS to get one. Throwing $5mil sounds good and I wouldn't be surprised if they do that -- but it just digs their hole a lot deeper if they go full Mcgriff and double-pay an unqualified party just to show that they can. Anyone they can successfully buy for $5mil is going to also be a name they could have gotten for $2.5-3mil.

What is a realistic best case scenario for someone to come in expecting to rebuild the image and get fired after 3-4 years? Jay Hopson? Bill Clark? Frank Wilson? They should be fired up about any of the 3 if they managed to pull that off. Good coaches. They need to realize right now that they aren't going out and nabbing the hottest names in coaching. They'd have to throw $8 mil around to get interviews with most of the names rolling off their tongues.

 

[EngDawg]

I'm available for $500,000 a year. I have over ten years experience playing EA Sports NCAA Football titles on PS2 and PS3, accumulating an estimated win percentage in excess of .750 and many years as an Independent Ametuer Analyst

 

[paindonthurt_]

You weren’t hitting reset enough.

 

[Spiderman.sixpack]

They have a perfect storm working against them. The same as when they made the Freeze hire, only now including massive NCAA trouble, with the possibility of open transfers.

Realistically: Lost the state in 2017, very well might not get a single player in MS that State wanted in 2018, and are fighting an uphill battle in a loaded 2019. Their talent situation is pretty bad, and it will be totally brutal if they lose Shea. Have nothing else at QB at all. Still can't run the ball. No underclassman talent on D. It's a 3-4 year rebuild right now and likely to get longer. So, their situation would require patience in the next coach regardless -- and they are famous for having a quick trigger. It's just a brutal situation.

If they want a successful head coach, they very well might have to go to FCS to get one. Throwing $5mil sounds good and I wouldn't be surprised if they do that -- but it just digs their hole a lot deeper if they go full Mcgriff and double-pay an unqualified party just to show that they can. Anyone they can successfully buy for $5mil is going to also be a name they could have gotten for $2.5-3mil.

What is a realistic best case scenario for someone to come in expecting to rebuild the image and get fired after 3-4 years? Jay Hopson? Bill Clark? Frank Wilson? They should be fired up about any of the 3 if they managed to pull that off. Good coaches. They need to realize right now that they aren't going out and nabbing the hottest names in coaching. They'd have to throw $8 mil around to get interviews with most of the names rolling off their tongues.

Hud, Wilson, Brown, Hopson, and Holtz are probably the ceiling, and realistic choices. Or a similar placed coach.

Then there are the OC's and DC's that might want a shot. Then burnout former and recently fired HC's looking for a nice nest egg to retire on.

The only name they have a shot atmight be Kiffin, and without a doubt the perfect fit for OM........ an offensive coach, who also happens to be the biggest prick and greatly overrated coach in football. An identical twin to OM.

But I don't know if even he has an ego big enough to take that job

 

[blacklistedbully]

Terry Bowden. Going from Akron to UNM, even with UNM devastated by NCAA sanctions would be a step up, as long as they set reasonable expectations (I know, a big if). Buyout is only $400k, and he's only making $406k per year.

His current contract expires in 4 years, at which point he will be 65. So it's not as if he's a guy who would be concerned about damaging future prospects. They could probably get him for $1 mill, and do as well with him the next 4 years as they would with anyone that would cost twice as much or more.

Dude has won at every place he has coached, except Akron, but even there in 2015 he led them to the most wins they'd had in 30 years, after inheriting a team that went 2-22 under the previous HC.

After coaching at Akron going on 5 years, even the dumpster fire OM is about to become will feel like a major upgrade for Terry.

 

[HumpDawgy]

Hear is the list I was given by my inside source:

1. Best available SWAC coach #1
2. Best available High School coach #1
3. Best available Girl's volleyball coach #1