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That's why I don't understand the Jalan Robinson offer. He's from Lawrence, Kansas and lowly KU didn't even offer him. In his film he's mostly going against kids half his size. He could end up being a diamond in the rough, but I would think we could find a better prospect next year.

Another site shows him having offers from KU, Mississippi State and Nebraska.
 

Harry Caray

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Another site shows him having offers from KU, Mississippi State and Nebraska.

KU only offered him a preferred walk-on spot. The Miss St offer just happened yesterday too. It's strange that KU wouldn't offer him a scholarship considering how bad they are and he is literally right in their backyard. I am sure they have watched him play many times.
 

mpbrown27

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This is a valid point, but I think there is some truth to the idea that value can be added to Olinemen once they are in the program. If the staff thinks a kid is truly under-rated and has legit potential, they might pull the trigger. FWIW, Jalin Barnett was a 5.8 4* and Christian Gaylord was a 5.7 3*.

Yeah, but here's the thing. We're throwing out offers with a week or so before signing day. So did the staff truly identify a diamond in the rough type prospect or are they scrambling to meet a quota?
 

inWV

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Yeah, but here's the thing. We're throwing out offers with a week or so before signing day. So did the staff truly identify a diamond in the rough type prospect or are they scrambling to meet a quota?
I think the Plan B became Plan A and they are lining up other Plan Bs.
 

regoratsginrom

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KU only offered him a preferred walk-on spot. The Miss St offer just happened yesterday too. It's strange that KU wouldn't offer him a scholarship considering how bad they are and he is literally right in their backyard. I am sure they have watched him play many times.

It's a numbers thing. Only have 2 or 3 scholarships left to give and they are looking at some different options.
 
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BartonHusker

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KU only offered him a preferred walk-on spot. The Miss St offer just happened yesterday too. It's strange that KU wouldn't offer him a scholarship considering how bad they are and he is literally right in their backyard. I am sure they have watched him play many times.

KU didn't have a scholarship to give him without it affecting a kid they just got a commitment from in Mike Brown. KU awarded a scholarship to Mike and his brother Joe. They are offering Joe to keep a hold of Mike or otherwise they are going to lose him to West Virginia. Robinson was offered a PWO long before either Brown was recruited to KU. In hindsight, KU might have lost out on a really good hometown kid because they were taking a gamble on a guy in Mike Brown that may deliver them more short term benefit. Beaty is playing with fire with all these juco guys. It's win or else for him next season.
 

Harry Caray

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KU didn't have a scholarship to give him without it affecting a kid they just got a commitment from in Mike Brown. KU awarded a scholarship to Mike and his brother Joe. They are offering Joe to keep a hold of Mike or otherwise they are going to lose him to West Virginia. Robinson was offered a PWO long before either Brown was recruited to KU. In hindsight, KU might have lost out on a really good hometown kid because they were taking a gamble on a guy in Mike Brown that may deliver them more short term benefit. Beaty is playing with fire with all these juco guys. It's win or else for him next season.

Makes sense I guess. OWH says Robinson is taking an unofficial visit here tomorrow so at least we aren't wasting an official visit. It's hard to know how good he really is, because on his film he looks twice as big as most of the guys he's blocking. He's gotten by on his size for now. He does play basketball so he must have decent footwork. I just wonder how a kid this size in a college town could go un-offered by any D-I programs until a week before signing day.
 

Hoosker Du

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While the product on the field sucked, Gates especially, Cavanaugh got pretty good reviews from those in the coach/playing community.

Care to share the names of those that hold Cavanaugh in high regard? I'll be waiting..
 

huskerfan1414

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The coaching community also holds Riley in high regard.
People need to learn that coaches do not throw each other under the bus.

When was the last time you heard ANY coach say negative things about another coach (not rivalry related)? NEVER. Especially if that coach is actually bad and they will enjoy playing against them. It's a good old boys club of its own, by necessity almost.

I couldn't stand the idiocy of people saying "BUT BUT BUT Riley is held in high esteem by so and so!!" WHO CARES.
 
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vs540husker

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Makes sense I guess. OWH says Robinson is taking an unofficial visit here tomorrow so at least we aren't wasting an official visit. It's hard to know how good he really is, because on his film he looks twice as big as most of the guys he's blocking. He's gotten by on his size for now. He does play basketball so he must have decent footwork. I just wonder how a kid this size in a college town could go un-offered by any D-I programs until a week before signing day.

Robinson said, "These offers really came from nowhere," Robinson said. "I think I really hurt myself not going to any camps over the summer. The last couple weeks I've just been getting more attention every day and it's building up."

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/blogs/...cle_6851395e-057e-11e8-9165-5fee4e12bb3d.html
http://www.omaha.com/huskers/blogs/...cle_6851395e-057e-11e8-9165-5fee4e12bb3d.html
 
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inWV

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The kid has apparently wrestled and is a starter on his HS BB team, with an offer to play DII BB. 6-5, 296 with better than average footwork and a wrestler's understanding of leverage. Nice plan B!
 
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Yolobomb

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Care to share the names of those that hold Cavanaugh in high regard? I'll be waiting..

Ex-Nebraska offensive lineman Aaron Taylor, formally announced Monday as a member of the College Football Hall of Fame’s class of 2018, has some interesting thoughts on his alma mater’s O-line struggles during the Mike Riley era.

Taylor, during an appearance Tuesday morning on “Early Break” on 93.7 FM (clickright here), said he believes Nebraska’s line had enough talent to prosper in 2017.

“I love the talent pool they have,” Taylor said.

He looks forward to how the group will look once it begins working with new Nebraska strength coach Zach Duval. As for the line’s poor play this past season – the Huskers ranked 87th nationally in total offense (385.0 ypg) and an embarrassing 120th in rushing (107.5) – Taylor said the foremost issue was the team’s lack of offensive identity.

“I’m going to tell you (Mike) Cavanaugh was a good coach,” Taylor said. “I think he was a little hamstrung with (Danny) Langsdorf’s offense, just because there wasn’t an identity.”

http://journalstar.com/sports/huske...cle_0f5b38ea-f57f-11e7-9fdd-e7488bb6e386.html
 
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Yolobomb

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This is a valid point, but I think there is some truth to the idea that value can be added to Olinemen once they are in the program. If the staff thinks a kid is truly under-rated and has legit potential, they might pull the trigger. FWIW, Jalin Barnett was a 5.8 4* and Christian Gaylord was a 5.7 3*.

They are going to be so good once they get a couple years in our system.
 

dinglefritz

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This is a valid point, but I think there is some truth to the idea that value can be added to Olinemen once they are in the program. If the staff thinks a kid is truly under-rated and has legit potential, they might pull the trigger. FWIW, Jalin Barnett was a 5.8 4* and Christian Gaylord was a 5.7 3*.
On the radio this a.m. Mike'l Severe asked Nick Gates who he thought would surprise us this year on the O'line and his first response was Gaylord. He said he didn't think he got a fair shot for some reason. Also thought Decker would be very good if healthy this fall.
 
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Hoosker Du

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Ex-Nebraska offensive lineman Aaron Taylor, formally announced Monday as a member of the College Football Hall of Fame’s class of 2018, has some interesting thoughts on his alma mater’s O-line struggles during the Mike Riley era.

Taylor, during an appearance Tuesday morning on “Early Break” on 93.7 FM (clickright here), said he believes Nebraska’s line had enough talent to prosper in 2017.

“I love the talent pool they have,” Taylor said.

He looks forward to how the group will look once it begins working with new Nebraska strength coach Zach Duval. As for the line’s poor play this past season – the Huskers ranked 87th nationally in total offense (385.0 ypg) and an embarrassing 120th in rushing (107.5) – Taylor said the foremost issue was the team’s lack of offensive identity.

“I’m going to tell you (Mike) Cavanaugh was a good coach,” Taylor said. “I think he was a little hamstrung with (Danny) Langsdorf’s offense, just because there wasn’t an identity.”

http://journalstar.com/sports/huske...cle_0f5b38ea-f57f-11e7-9fdd-e7488bb6e386.html

And others have said that Cavanaugh didn't teach drive-blocking techniques that would move defenders off the LOS, but instead taught patty-cake zone blocking techniques that would move players out of the way, but wouldn't attempt to push them off the LOS.

Either way, he sucked as bad as any OLine coach I've ever seen, and the results illustrate that. I wonder if Aaron Taylor became friends with him, and looked past his poor coaching.

There are multiple teams that "don't have an identity," which means they are balanced, that end up with exceptional offensive numbers.
 

dinglefritz

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And others have said that Cavanaugh didn't teach drive-blocking techniques that would move defenders off the LOS, but instead taught patty-cake zone blocking techniques that would move players out of the way, but wouldn't attempt to push them off the LOS.

Either way, he sucked as bad as any OLine coach I've ever seen, and the results illustrate that. I wonder if Aaron Taylor became friends with him, and looked past his poor coaching.
Or maybe it is what it is on the face. Taylor objectively looks at the situation and says exactly the truth. I know Cav is a whipping boy, but he did some really good things with a patchwork line in 2016 and he did recruit some really good young talent. I've listened to more than one former pipeline member who thought that what the offense required out O line to do was not logical. That isn't the O line coach.
 

Hoosker Du

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Or maybe it is what it is on the face. Taylor objectively looks at the situation and says exactly the truth. I know Cav is a whipping boy, but he did some really good things with a patchwork line in 2016 and he did recruit some really good young talent.

And he should be the whipping boy. His OLines were awful. I think Aaron Taylor got chummy with MC and his opinion isn't very objective. If we would have had Tanner Lee as our QB in 2016, we would have lost at least 6 games in 2016 too, because Tanner wasn't very mobile. Tommy Armstrong constantly bailed out his OLine, by being very elusive in the pocket, but he was constantly running for his life in 2015 too.
 

Yolobomb

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And others have said that Cavanaugh didn't teach drive-blocking techniques that would move defenders off the LOS, but instead taught patty-cake zone blocking techniques that would move players out of the way, but wouldn't attempt to push them off the LOS.

Either way, he sucked as bad as any OLine coach I've ever seen, and the results illustrate that. I wonder if Aaron Taylor became friends with him, and looked past his poor coaching.

There are multiple teams that "don't have an identity," which means they are balanced, that end up with exceptional offensive numbers.

So you watched practice then?
 

Hoosker Du

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So you watched practice then?

Would a person really need to see practice with us finishing 119th in Rushing Offense, 87th in Total Offense in '17; 73rd in Rushing Offense, 90th in Total Offense in '16, and 52nd in Rushing, 34th in Total Offense in '15??

The answer is a resounding "No," a person would not have to see practice to know that something was terribly wrong with our offense in general. I think it's very fair to blame our OLine for their part in those abysmal stats. We all watched them look like Keystone Cops game after game after game. The proof was watching them, right in front of our eyes.
 
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Ex-Nebraska offensive lineman Aaron Taylor, formally announced Monday as a member of the College Football Hall of Fame’s class of 2018, has some interesting thoughts on his alma mater’s O-line struggles during the Mike Riley era.

Taylor, during an appearance Tuesday morning on “Early Break” on 93.7 FM (clickright here), said he believes Nebraska’s line had enough talent to prosper in 2017.

“I love the talent pool they have,” Taylor said.

He looks forward to how the group will look once it begins working with new Nebraska strength coach Zach Duval. As for the line’s poor play this past season – the Huskers ranked 87th nationally in total offense (385.0 ypg) and an embarrassing 120th in rushing (107.5) – Taylor said the foremost issue was the team’s lack of offensive identity.

“I’m going to tell you (Mike) Cavanaugh was a good coach,” Taylor said. “I think he was a little hamstrung with (Danny) Langsdorf’s offense, just because there wasn’t an identity.”

http://journalstar.com/sports/huske...cle_0f5b38ea-f57f-11e7-9fdd-e7488bb6e386.html

Well, if is is true that he was hamstrung because of Langsdorf, then that is on Riley, he had the duty to coordinate the whole show.
 

FeelingFrosty

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I hope we don't reach on OL targets unless the plan is to continue processing noncontributors. I think we have some talent on the O line. We have the numbers. No need to reach on a project when we could just recruit a much better player next year.
 

Yolobomb

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Well, if is is true that he was hamstrung because of Langsdorf, then that is on Riley, he had the duty to coordinate the whole show.