OL next year, sorry if already been discussed

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For those that follow this closely, what is your projected starting 5 for next year, including those that we have already signed in December?

We need more quickness at the tackle spots. Cross should help out there. Eiland, Phillips, and Reese did not perform like I was hoping on the edge. They're all back. Any chance we have someone else coming in with a little more athleticism that can help out at the tackle spot? Can any of these three slide inside to a guard spot?

Thanks
 

Trojanbulldog19

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That’s why I don’t think it matters much who qb will be. Same tackles next year. Still the good ole look out block
 

Leeshouldveflanked

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Story will be back won’t he? He played a good many snaps second half of season... Kwatravious Johnson could be in the mix as well at 6’7” 350.
 

Lawdawg.sixpack

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When Eiland played as a FR for Rankin, there was no noticeable drop off, which was really impressive. But his play this year concerns me - in more ways than 1.
 

patdog

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Cross has had a great week at McDonalds AA practices. He could make a strong push to start.
 

NCDawg.sixpack

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Pretty obvious that Eiland is not quick enough to keep DE's from getting by him and getting to the QB. Don't think he needs to be playing LT with a right handed QB.
 

57stratdawg

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I hope Dolla-Bill adjust well to the new offense. His pass-pro was the weakest part of his projection at the next level, and suddenly that’s an incredibly important aspect of playing OT at MSU.
 

engie

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It never ceases to amaze me the percentage of MSU fans that don't know what they are actually seeing happen up front.

This OL was an elite run blocking unit that was average at pass blocking. Largely because no one had to respect the pass against us and were fine leaving guys on islands and bringing more pressure. The only thing we did poorly was giving up sacks on standard downs, which can be partially attributed to the previous.

Reese to guard, Phillips to tackle, Williams to C, Story to Guard... Eiland/Dolla at Tackle... That's a lot of continuity again. Champion will get some time at guard, and Cross will get his 4 games most likely.

"Got dominated up front by Iowa"? Sure, we gave up 3 sacks. But even average QB play seeing and hitting wide open receivers and then having guys catching the balls that hit them in the hands -- and the 150 yards passing becomes 350 yards passing in a hurry. We dominated ourselves. It wasn't a function of what they were doing.

I do agree that Eiland didn't see the progess expected this year and looked lost at times. So did Rankin at first in his "new" offense. He was incredibly infuriating for most of 2016. Doesn't necessarily mean much going forward. We start hitting a couple of passes, guys are going to have to stay home to cover, and the OL will magically look far better in pass pro.
 
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thatsbaseball

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Because this board needs an enema in the worst kind of way.....and I'm not talking about the OP
 
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Trojanbulldog19

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When Eiland played as a FR for Rankin, there was no noticeable drop off, which was really impressive. But his play this year concerns me - in more ways than 1.
That’s what I was getting at they played well subbing last year. Regressed this year. Not confident in his coaching
 
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