Five games into the season and the only game he saw the floor was when Embiid sat. Came off the bench and only saw 22 minutes that game. Why don't they trade him already? He practically has no trade value now. Would love to see him on the Celtics.
Okafor deserves better than this BS
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He’s in a bad situation as Philly has moved in a different direction and apparently wanted him as trade bait only anyway. He doesn’t fit there.
Part of it is on him too. He hasn’t necessarily been the model of ambition while he has been there. I’m hoping he doesn’t fade out. He’s too talented for that.
Part of it is on him too. He hasn’t necessarily been the model of ambition while he has been there. I’m hoping he doesn’t fade out. He’s too talented for that.
Maybe in the past but he has worked hard this past off season and reported in the best shape in his life
I hope so. He could help out a lot of teams if he upped his rebounding numbers and played some iota of defense.
It would be AWESOME to have Boston, or any other NBA team with 4 or 5 former Duke players starting and playing well!!!
He’s 21. He makes millions of dollars. He should be in the best shape of his life.
I love Jah....but this isn’t all on the Sixers. He has a reputation of being lazy and sulking in Philly....on top of that, he’s a 6’10” or 6’11” (take your pick) big man who doesn’t defend and, at best, is seen as a mediocre rebounder. As a ‘back to the basket’ player in a league where that’s not highly featured, it’s not a good thing if you can’t defend or rebound. There’s lots of 6’11” guys in the NBA who defend or rebound better than him. If he drastically improves those two areas of his game, then his physical tools force any coach to him. I wanted the Wolves to take him over KAT in the 2015 draft....I’ve never been more wrong.
Loved that big teddy bear when he was at Duke. To succeed in the pros though, he must turn into a grizzly bear.
Quickness and 'want to.' Knock somebody into the 3rd row going for a rebound and then stare at em.
Get an edge about you big man!
Quickness and 'want to.' Knock somebody into the 3rd row going for a rebound and then stare at em.
Get an edge about you big man!
Hard to not sulk when you average 17 and 7 your rookie year and was your teams best offensive weapon at the time until they decide to run a whole different scheme to feature Embiid. I'm not saying he's better than Embiid but that's a hard pill to swallow to go from the man to not needed or wanted at all. Now he only sees the floor if a big for Philly sits. Hard to improve your play or attitude that way. A different team/coach would greatly improved the attitude part. It remains to be seen if the rebounding will improve because he has to play for us to see that. He did have 10 and 9 the 22 minutes he did play the lone game he saw action.
He averaged 17 and 7 on one of the worst teams in the NBA’s history. Philly has some really good, young players today....Jah isn’t one of the two or three best.
And like I often do, I’ll defer to the coach and coaches who see him everyday...they’re going to know a lot more about the player than we do.
He is lazy in the league. Like stated, he needs to develops rebounding and a jumper.
I like Jah, but to turn his career around he needs a coach like pop or a seasoned coach to help him. The days of playing bigs traditionally are over. He needs to get some appeal about him for other teams to be interested.
I like Jah, but to turn his career around he needs a coach like pop or a seasoned coach to help him. The days of playing bigs traditionally are over. He needs to get some appeal about him for other teams to be interested.
One game stat for Jahlil.22 minutes 10 point 9 rebounds 1 block not bad for a mediocre rebounder and defender.He lost twenty pounds in the offseason to be able compete at a higher level again not bad for someone who is lazy and a sulker.Btw I watched that entire game and he showed a pretty good mid range shot so it is not entirely a back to the basket game
I watch a lot of NBA, and I mean A LOT. And unfortunately Jahlil came about 20 years too late. If he played in the 90's, he would probably be a multi-year all star, given the style of play and how teams constructed their roster.
Unfortunately for Jah, it just doesn't make sense in today's NBA to run any offense through a back to the basket big-man. Centers are asked to set screens, dunk dunk dunk, and protect the rim. None of those things does Jah excel in. Freaking Robin Lopez was raining 3's last night, that's how much the game has changed. Jah can't play "his game" and expect to do much in the NBA, he needs to focus on rebounding, defense, and setting screens, the points will come.
Unfortunately for Jah, it just doesn't make sense in today's NBA to run any offense through a back to the basket big-man. Centers are asked to set screens, dunk dunk dunk, and protect the rim. None of those things does Jah excel in. Freaking Robin Lopez was raining 3's last night, that's how much the game has changed. Jah can't play "his game" and expect to do much in the NBA, he needs to focus on rebounding, defense, and setting screens, the points will come.
Like you said. One game. Also, I never said he was lazy or a sulker....but he has the reputation of being those things. I'd imagine the people dealing with him on a day-to-day basis know more than us.
As you know, Jah was on the bench a lot late in the national championship game against Wisconsin. Part of that was playing with four fouls. Part of that was also Amile being a superior defender and giving Duke a better chance to win. He didn't defend well at Duke....it's tougher to defend in the NBA. Jah should also be able to sleepwalk every night through a game and grab seven or eight rebounds. That game you watched was more of an anomaly than status quo.
The 76ers are scared Joel will get hurt again. Its the biggest reason Philly won't get rid of him so quickly.
If Joel was to get hurt, the 76ers won't miss a beat putting Oak in the starting five, but if he is not there more problems will occur.
Sar, Ben, Fultz and Coverington is the solid core... Unfortunately, it comes down to the health of Joel and the market value of Oak, if he is traded.
If Joel was to get hurt, the 76ers won't miss a beat putting Oak in the starting five, but if he is not there more problems will occur.
Sar, Ben, Fultz and Coverington is the solid core... Unfortunately, it comes down to the health of Joel and the market value of Oak, if he is traded.
I'm not buying statements that start, "In today's NBA..." If you can dominate the low post and get at-the-rim buckets shooting 60%, then you can be valuable. You just have to not cost your team on defense and rebounding, which is the real problem for Big Jah. There aren't big hulking centers scoring a lot now because they can't run for 48 minutes. You could still dominate down low for 30 minutes and be an asset. That kind of play shortens your career though, and everyone knows it.
I agree with you up to one point, traditional Centers and Power forwards have had the longest careers in the league. The problem is their games are no longer sexy or appealing to the average fan, not the hardcore fan.
If you look at Nurkic, Jonas, Nikola, Robin, Jokic, KAT, Drummond and Rudy, their games are not always sexy and cute, but they are effective.
Yes, there are some areas Jah needs to improve, but be clear, Philly don't want to let him go if they think they have another Sam Bowie or Greg Oden named Joel Embiid.
That's a good point. I wouldn't mind seeing a little bully ball, but that doesn't get the people going.
Hard to believe that they gave Embild a 150 million dollar deal
Sixers will always suck, trade Jahlil please. Glad JJ only signed for one year too. Celtics would be a great spot for both of them next year title run.
I think that's a little much. Ben Simmons looks like he will be a many time all-star, Embiid as well if he stays healthy. There's a descent chance they will be in the title conversation within 3-5 years, just need to piece together a good set of roll players and keep their fingers crossed for a healthy Embiid.
As far as Jah goes, yeah I've been wanting him out of Philly since his draft day, but also have to understand that it's a business and Philly doesn't want to give up Jah for 25 cents on the dollar. Even though they have waited too long, and now are gonna be forced to get a low return.
Sheesh I think some of you guys are being pretty hard on a kid that struggled as a 19-20 year old in one of the worst losing settings possible in the NBA. I think him not playing has more to do with the front office than his coaches. From all accounts in the off-season he worked hard to be in the best shape of his life. He came out and said he doesn't even feel like he's on the team, and would love a fresh start elsewhere. His potential didn't disappear, and with his touch I don't see why he can't develop a long range jumper as many bigs have. I'm not jumping of his stardom ship just yet.
Agree totally watched in in the preseason and the one game he played he showed a good midrange shot and rebounded well
Until Jah can prove himself to be a good defender and rebounder he’s going to have his critics. He has the talent.
Saw on espn's the bottom line, Jah has been on the trading block since last season but the 76ers have found no takers or are asking way to much for him.
For Jah to go to another team either the sixes are gonna have to lower their asking price or he's gonna have to do some major pr campaign to raise his stock. That or Embid get hurt like usual.
If Blake Griffin can adapt and shoot then their is hope for Jah. I mean Dwight Howard's still in the league
For Jah to go to another team either the sixes are gonna have to lower their asking price or he's gonna have to do some major pr campaign to raise his stock. That or Embid get hurt like usual.
If Blake Griffin can adapt and shoot then their is hope for Jah. I mean Dwight Howard's still in the league
Howard is a prolific rebounder....almost 13/game for his career. He’s also elite defensively. His main downfall has been injuries.
As for Griffin, he’s better offensively, defensively and on the glass....he’s also a perennial All-Star.
What Jah needs to be is Jah. That means commiting himself defensively, rebounding and to the team. He’s almost 22 now. Everyone is really, really good at this level. He does those things and he’s going to get chances.
As for Griffin, he’s better offensively, defensively and on the glass....he’s also a perennial All-Star.
What Jah needs to be is Jah. That means commiting himself defensively, rebounding and to the team. He’s almost 22 now. Everyone is really, really good at this level. He does those things and he’s going to get chances.
The guy has played in 100 NBA games as an immature 19-20 year old. For fcks sake, give the guy a chance. My guess is he is a multi year all-star by the time his career is over.
I hope you're right....and two years ago, I wouldn't have touched that bet. Today I wouldn't turn it down. That said, I'm on your side here in wanting that, but I don't see it.
Blake Griffin has become to adapt to the direction of the NBA extending his range on his shot and not just power dunking( which like Derek Rose) leads to a lot of his injuries and Howard is a pre madonna who has no advanced offense ( although he's trying). I agree with all of what you said though just not fans of either and Howard plays for my team lol.
Jah will be ok. I think teams are just waiting to see if he gets waived( cheaper to pick him up) or for his rookie contract to be up and him becoming a free agent.
Philly will put the narrative out, 'nobody wants him', but the harsh reality is Philly is nervous about Embiid health.
No one is really being hard on Jah, they just pissed with Philly.
Love Okafor at Duke but I think we saw ending their title run that in this age what he struggled with is more pronounced then his ability to score in the post. He just really grew up in the wrong generation.
He will catch on somewhere and should help a teams second unit. Boston maybe...
He will catch on somewhere and should help a teams second unit. Boston maybe...