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goru7

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If anyone noticed in the beginning of the game, first qtr or so, they let them play, and became very physical under the rim. I believe that it was known, that for RU to win Delgado would have to get into foul trouble, so they didn't call anything. Going into the 2nd qtr the foul calls increased, with RU getting an advantage at the foul line, then converting. This hurt the Hall.
The second half was called completely in favor of the Hall, it was purely pathetic, and very unprofessional from the Refs. The calls came often, but especially when RU started to get momentum. The refs were Big East. It was so bad, that if I was coaching that team, would have called time out to address the matter. But, I can also see the consequence to such action.
One thing is having a home advantage because of the arena, and fans, but when the Refs. influence the outcome, then it becomes a problem.
Seton Hall was the better team(mostly because of the center position), but our team deserved an equal chance to perform. And, they didn't get it.
I believe that Refs should be hired by the NCAA, and not by the Conferences. It would at least slow down, if not stop all the bickering among fans. Like me.
Except they were Big 10 refs. Yeah they still sucked especially Dorsey and Gaffney. Dorsey has reffed 4-5 of our games and has done us no favors in any of them.
 

G- RUnit

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Some of the worst officiating I have seen. For a fair portion of the game we had double the fouls in the second half. Played a big role in the game.
 

KnightsofChrome

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Except they were Big 10 refs. Yeah they still sucked especially Dorsey and Gaffney. Dorsey has reffed 4-5 of our games and has done us no favors in any of them.
Oh, I didn't realize that. Then the calls were really awful! Very inconsistent beginning to end. But, I still think the NCAA should hire all refs.
 

Rutgers25

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There were a lot of strange calls that I couldn't quite confirm were bad because they telecast would never show the replay..
 
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You can't just look at number of fouls. You have to look at when in the half they're called. That's what determines how the game is played.
Exactly plus as other OP's have noted Shoe got away with a lot of noncalls. Delgado was able to bang and bull Gettys and our other bigs all night on both ends of the court.
 

richthedentist

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Exactly both halves I believe SHU had 1 foul to our 7 to start each halve. I just started rewatching the game and the first foul on Gettys was ridiculous Delgado total BS acting when fighting for position will get through rest of game later
 

biazza38

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Exactly both halves I believe SHU had 1 foul to our 7 to start each halve. I just started rewatching the game and the first foul on Gettys was ridiculous Delgado total BS acting when fighting for position will get through rest of game later
Delgado flopped on the Williams foul under the SHU basket
Angel got the rebound and I believe Sa and Williams got their. They sorta reached in, but I don't think Williams touched him. Either way, Delgado falling hard didn't match the contact/lack their of. Lebron is the king at this. The NBA guys are starting the get called out for it's they should. If you're 6'9" 270, you don't fall to ground when you're barely touched
 

rudad02

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Not exactly sure what the play was. Think Getty was setting a pick, was perfectly still & the SU guy in getting around him hurled himself to the floor. Any novice ref could have seen the act & that there was no foul. Of course one was called on Getty, who couldn't believe it.
 

AreYouNUTS

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Awful officiating, regardless of outcome, plain and simple. Either let them play, or don't, these guys couldn't decide and it affected play in both halves.
 

TDIrish27

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Shot 36 % from the floor

Outrebounded by 12

19 TO's

Outscored by 20 in the 2nd Half

That's why RU lost.

You'll be able to count on your thumbs the number of times you get 28 FT's on the road in a Big Ten game.

On to the next one and let's hope RU plays 2 Halves of good basketball.
 

Sideline20

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Shot 36 % from the floor

Outrebounded by 12

19 TO's

Outscored by 20 in the 2nd Half

That's why RU lost.

You'll be able to count on your thumbs the number of times you get 28 FT's on the road in a Big Ten game.

On to the next one and let's hope RU plays 2 Halves of good basketball.

That is exactly why Rutgers lost the game however, if a foul is called on one end, it should be called on the other. That was not the case Friday night. All we are looking for is some consistency here. There were 2 called fouls on Gettys that were atrocious. You call the same things on Delgado and things could be different. Just looking for fairness here. Have to give credit to Coach P on the way he handles the refs. He discusses the situation with them calmly. Nothing over the top.
 

SJScarlet

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I rewatched portions of the game at home and as I suspected there were simply some horrendous calls that went against RU. Carrington went up for a slam off a turnover and Sa intimidated him but did not touch him. Foul called, free points for SHU.
 
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I rewatched portions of the game at home and as I suspected there were simply some horrendous calls that went against RU. Carrington went up for a slam off a turnover and Sa intimidated him but did not touch him. Foul called, free points for SHU.
Even the FS1 Big East homer announcers had to acknowledge that [poop] call, saying Carrington got the "benefit of the doubt" because he was "so aggressive in going to the hole", and that there would be no call if he just went for a layup. Ridiculous.
 

80RU

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Shot 36 % from the floor

Outrebounded by 12

19 TO's

Outscored by 20 in the 2nd Half

That's why RU lost.

You'll be able to count on your thumbs the number of times you get 28 FT's on the road in a Big Ten game.

On to the next one and let's hope RU plays 2 Halves of good basketball.
What you ignore is that a game that is called in a lopsided fashion affects how you might be outrebounded and how many turnovers you might have. When a side is whistled for significantly less contact, like RU was in this game, you begin to play more tentative than the other side. Down the stretch this was particularly evident -- for example, it was not just the two FTs that Nigel Johnson did not get on his drive, or the loss of possession on the Diallo charge, which resulted from a palpably bad no call and a palpably bad call respectively, it is how this affects how you play. Conversely, if an offensive rebounder like Delgado does not get called for a couple of over the backs, he is emboldened to go all out without fear. If a shot blocker like Sa is called for a foul with no contact, he is less likely to go after a shot that he might otherwise get. I seldom complain about officiating, but this was terrible and it had a creping effect on how RU played. The announcer thought RU got worn down. They did not; they got tentative.
 
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Seton75

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SHOE is a better team, but I'm still waiting for a game in which the reffing clearly goes in our favor in a win. Been a LONG time since we've gotten the benefit and I can think of plenty where we get hosed beyond belief.
How about that last second foul on us a bunch of years ago...lol. I think you won because of it.

Thought refs were not great, but it went both ways. And I thought your early plan was to play physical in the post, which you did, and that had alot to do with the first half score.
 

PatrickRU92

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How about that last second foul on us a bunch of years ago...lol. I think you won because of it.

Thought refs were not great, but it went both ways. And I thought your early plan was to play physical in the post, which you did, and that had alot to do with the first half score.
This is true but that might as well have been 1960. That's over a decade ago now.