Official gameday thread Duke vs FSU

[The Only Blue]

Survived and advanced.

 

[sheyduke]

Luck and I do think my questions were warranted .
Free throws and defense did disappear a lot . Cayden has to know this is his time . Who ever we play next will exploit Duke just like the same .

 

[Mac9192]

The kid who had an awful shooting night, is the one who scored our last basket, which was just enough. Shows how crazy this game is.

Duke didn’t beat a normal 18-14 team. Survive and advance. Hopefully a great boost for this new look Duke team.

 

[pisgah101]

No clue how FSU has lost so many- PG play was rough- lil Booz was shell shocked fast. Hopefully more reps tomorrow help we will see. good gutty win though. And yes we can still win it all.

 

[christophero]

Duke. But the margin for error is sooooooo thin.

You win the Nostradamas award.

 

[Bleediteveryday83]

 

[Bleediteveryday83]

You win the Nostradamas award.

 

[JimboSlice00]

Jim Boeheim and others will draw a ton of negatives from this game and a few are warranted, especially the free throw shooting.

But this team needed a game like this as they’ve been blowing the doors off everyone. As like the first time, fsu was hitting ridiculous shots ALL game and that will not continue happening.

Duke won a game against a red hot team and allowed them to get a game in without Foster to adjust. Getting Pat back for protecting the rim will be massive.

 

[The Only Blue]

Now we root for Clemson to win in quadruple ot.

 

[JustAfanatic]

We made our run when we hedged McCray far from the basket to get it out of his hands and when he beat it we dug down on him as he got low.

Right now FSU is a NCAAT caliber team, I wouldn’t take too much into this narrow win.

One game at a time, I still believe.

 

[Mac9192]

Duke didn’t beat a fluke team. Florida St is playing good enough to be in the tournament, they just got off to an awful start.

We’re asking a lot out of Cayden and Khamenia.

 

[sheyduke]

Florida st played Duke close when we were fully healthy . Cayden played like a bench player scared to get pulled until late second half . The depth n the front court and at pg is very obvious. Have to stick to defense as well.

 

[christophero]

Harris only gets 6 minutes. Duke down to 5 players. Harris gets up.
Scheyer: "my teams on the court."

 

[denverexpat]

I find it strange we dont have anyone else to step up or that the staff cannot develop our team enough to absorb 2 injuries...do we not scrimmage 5 v 5 in practice? so still have 8 capable players on the roster? Some may be young but this is Duke...we have high level players on the roster. A win is a win but this performance was very shaky.

 

[christophero]

Pat and Foster are very important players. And not freshman. Them being out, we are still talented but insanely young.

 

[The Only Blue]

Pat and Foster are very important players. And not freshman. Them being out, we are still talented but insanely young.

They're both important but think Pat is more important. Reason being is that Maliq gets into foul trouble way too much just because of the way he plays and he can't play as aggressive as he's used to since there's no backup. With Cam being such a great passer, it's good for him to have lob threat or someone to dump the ball to in the post for an easy basket. We saw it tonight when Maliq went out with his fourth foul. Whenever Cam got the ball the defense collapsed onto him and he had no one to dump it to. That's when FSU got their run and went up 8. Maliq checked back in after and that's when we went on our run.

 

[Bleediteveryday83]

I find it strange we dont have anyone else to step up or that the staff cannot develop our team enough to absorb 2 injuries...do we not scrimmage 5 v 5 in practice? so still have 8 capable players on the roster? Some may be young but this is Duke...we have high level players on the roster. A win is a win but this performance was very shaky.

Wilkins redshirt, Cameron & Jack are practice players who get minutes in mop-up time, Ochi had season-ending surgery. So, we were running with the 9 that we have. And then two freak injuries happened. Pat's was a lingering issue from over the summer. Caleb's was a freak thing that has happened to this kid twice now. It sucks. But we run with who we have. We can't burn Wilkins redshirt. And we shouldn't because he clearly wasn't ready, and you could tell that when he got a little bit of burn early on. He looked lost out there. The only way Cameron or Jack is out there is if we have, lord forbid, another injury or are up big late, and Ochi was our emergency big that is out for the year.

You can't go out and have 12 guys on your roster who are 4 and 5 stars, then expect all of them to play or have guys who are just on the bench in case of emergency, break glass. It doesn't work that way. I get what you're saying, but the reality is that we had a great shot at winning it all before we lost Caleb & Pat. Those expectations have been altered. I hope we can do it with the guys we have, especially if we can get a healthy Pat next week. But I acknowledge this is an uphill battle.

 

[Duke Bluu]

Sometimes you need time to adapt to new circumstances. Beating a good FSU team gives us more time and another opportunity to adapt to Foster and Pat being out. Don’t be surprised if Cayden and others start finding their footing. Duke could end up redeveloping from a wounded team to a dangerous one for the NCAA tournament. Pressure busts pipes or creates diamonds.

 

[denverexpat]

Wilkins redshirt, Cameron & Jack are practice players who get minutes in mop-up time, Ochi had season-ending surgery. So, we were running with the 9 that we have. And then two freak injuries happened. Pat's was a lingering issue from over the summer. Caleb's was a freak thing that has happened to this kid twice now. It sucks. But we run with who we have. We can't burn Wilkins redshirt. And we shouldn't because he clearly wasn't ready, and you could tell that when he got a little bit of burn early on. He looked lost out there. The only way Cameron or Jack is out there is if we have, lord forbid, another injury or are up big late, and Ochi was our emergency big that is out for the year.

You can't go out and have 12 guys on your roster who are 4 and 5 stars, then expect all of them to play or have guys who are just on the bench in case of emergency, break glass. It doesn't work that way. I get what you're saying, but the reality is that we had a great shot at winning it all before we lost Caleb & Pat. Those expectations have been altered. I hope we can do it with the guys we have, especially if we can get a healthy Pat next week. But I acknowledge this is an uphill battle.

Fair

 

[youngman42]

We should be up by 10 (at least) based on our on the court play. They are throwing up guarded 3s from everywhere and they’re going in. We have missed a ton of wide open solid three shots. And we’ve missed way too many free throws. Just gotta keep playing the way we are and hope they stop being so fortunate with their threes, make our free throws, and hit our open threes.

Jim Boeheim and others will draw a ton of negatives from this game and a few are warranted, especially the free throw shooting.

But this team needed a game like this as they’ve been blowing the doors off everyone. As like the first time, fsu was hitting ridiculous shots ALL game and that will not continue happening.

Duke won a game against a red hot team and allowed them to get a game in without Foster to adjust. Getting Pat back for protecting the rim will be massive.

Pat returning healthy would be huge. Not just for protecting the rim and rebounding but also for passing and playing a high low post game. I sure hope he can start practicing soon and be at full strength. Would love to see him get 15-20 minutes game one and be a full go from then on out.

 

[AlanInNJ1]

I thought FSU was really tough last night. They are long, athletic, and swarming, Leonard Hamilton would be proud! Their length bothered us on the perimeter all the way out at the logo! They played well enough to win. But the didn't. I felt Duke was out of sorts last night. The short bench right now really is an issue. Cayden just needs to settle in. I know he shot poorly, but he didn't turn the ball over excessively (2) and he did make what ended up being the game winner on a hustle play to get that offensive rebound and put back. Fouls we being called tight, Brown with 4 was a challenge. Still, win and advance.

I like the way we match up with Clemson, and I think we win tonight and lock up the overall #1 barring a complete collapse in the ACC final.

 

[youngman42]

Duke didn’t beat a fluke team. Florida St is playing good enough to be in the tournament, they just got off to an awful start.

We’re asking a lot out of Cayden and Khamenia.

I agree with the first paragraph. And FSU is hot. Those guys were throwing up

But not the second. Those guys are both top 20 recruits. If they were ranked 80-100 and developmental recruits it would be asking a lot to get those minutes. But What we are asking of them is what we should expect of them. Khamenia was consistently ranked around 15. And we should expect they should step up. Just as Sarr has. Khamenia had some nice plays but has to be better. Same with Cayden. Much better. At this point they have competed all season and every practice with and against the top team in the country for a year. They did not just step off the bus.

 

[youngman42]

Harris only gets 6 minutes. Duke down to 5 players. Harris gets up.
Scheyer: "my teams on the court."

Would like to see more minutes and more poise from Harris. He had more minutes vs UVA and UNC. We need him to step up.

 

[Mac9192]

I agree with the first paragraph. And FSU is hot. Those guys were throwing up

But not the second. Those guys are both top 20 recruits. If they were ranked 80-100 and developmental recruits it would be asking a lot to get those minutes. But What we are asking of them is what we should expect of them. Khamenia was consistently ranked around 15. And we should expect they should step up. Just as Sarr has. Khamenia had some nice plays but has to be better. Same with Cayden. Much better. At this point they have competed all season and every practice with and against the top team in the country for a year. They did not just step off the bus.

We all know how recruiting/rankings sometimes are. Some kids live up to them immediately, and some don't. Evans was a top level recruit out of high school. His defense was weak last season, and he was basically only a shooter. Not this season. He's a complete player.
I'm not saying Cayden isn't a good player, but it's also quite possible he got some attention by being Cam's brother. I'm pulling for him, as we all are. Duke's success the next few weeks depend on it.