Offensive production this year compared to sec since 2009

msstate7

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If we score 35 the next 2 games, we'll finish the year at 17.1 per game in conf. Here's the list of the teams that's been that low that since 2009:

2017 tenn (Jones fired)
2016 South Carolina (Muschamp first year)
2015 mizzou (Pinkel last year)
2015 vandy (mason)
2014 vandy (Mason first year)
2013 ark (Bielema first year)
2013 Kentucky (stoops first year)
2012 Kentucky (Phillips fired)
2012 auburn (Chizik fired)
2011 Kentucky (Phillips)
2011 OM (Nutt fired)
2011 tenn (Dooley)
2010 vandy (Caldwell fired)
2009 vandy (Johnson fired)

So it's happened 14 times...
7 times the coach was fired/resigned

4 times it was the coach's first year. None of the coaches went on to be what I consider successful.

Only Dooley, mason, and Phillips did it in a year where the coach wasn't new or fired
 
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blacklistedbully

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I wonder how many of those teams through the first 6 SEC games had played 6 of the 7 top scoring defenses and none of the bottom 6?

I wonder how many of them had to play against nearly their entire previous coaching staff, including the DC?

I wonder how many of them had one outlier game with 4 INT's when no other game had more than 1, despite playing 6 of the top 7?

I wonder what the next intentionally without context statistic you post is going to be?
 

msstate7

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I wonder how many of those teams through the first 6 SEC games had played 6 of the 7 top scoring defenses and none of the bottom 6?

I wonder how many of them had to play against nearly their entire previous coaching staff, including the DC?

I wonder how many of them had one outlier game with 4 INT's when no other game had more than 1, despite playing 6 of the top 7?

I wonder what the next intentionally without context statistic you post is going to be?

I'm crediting us with 70 points that we haven't scored yet. We've only scored 67 through 6 games, so i don't see how I'm being unfair
 

kired

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Aug 22, 2008
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7 TDs in 6 conference games should be major cause for concern, even if you had played Alabama in all 6 games. No other SEC team this year has fewer than 15 TDs in conference games. If you add our 6 FGs, we've only scored 13 times in 6 games.

Let that sink in... no other SEC team this year has fewer than 15 TDs, and we only have 13 scoring drives total with TD and FG combined. 4 of our 7 TDs came against A&M, so 3 TDs in the other 6 games. And one of those was aided by the muffed punt against Auburn where we got the ball around the 40.

The mighty LSU offense has arguably played as tough a schedule as we have (replace Kentucky with Georgia) and they are averaging over 23 ppg. Our offense in SEC games is about as bad as I can ever remember. Imagine how bad this season would have been if we'd had our typical ~22 ppg defense.
 

engie

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Any coach that goes 6-24 in the SEC sucks and has no chance for success!!!!
 

patdog

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I wonder how many teams have been the best defensive game of the year for 4 of their first 6 SEC opponents? Maybe that's just a coincidence and all 4 defenses were playing out of their minds that day. Or maybe, our offense has some serious problems right now. Hell, it's not a given we're going to score 70 points in the next 2 games. Anything from 40 to 100 wouldn't surprise me.
 

blacklistedbully

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Vs AU & aTm, both with defenses much, much better than UPig and OM, we exceeded their average ppg surrendered by 4 points. Granted, the ultimate difference will likely not be more than an extra point or two, but I'd be mildly interested in learning how many points scored per game we are off from the average should we end up averaging closer to 19 ppg.

By my quick math, it looks like we have averaged scoring about 8 points less per game than the average surrendered by the defenses we've played. If we score big in the last two, that will come down a little. Is it really unreasonable to expect our offense to perform below average by about a TD given the complete change in staff and offensive scheme + Fitz not able to complete 65% of his passes + the numerous drops by WR's (also impacting Fitz %) + Fitz most likely missing reads or being just a little too slow to pull the trigger because he's got more on his plate this year with the scheme + our staff being unaccustomed to life in the SEC? Also consider that 1 called back TD vs Bama drops our ppg average so far by nearly a point. How many points have we left on the field simply because our 4-star WR's just plain dropped perfect passes? Each TD or FG missed in a 6-game sample can have a big impact. Is it safe to say we've easily left 24 points out there due to plain old drops? If so, that reduces our ppg by 4.

I'm not arguing that it hasn't been bad. It clearly has. But I am saying context is important when using stats to predict potential or to fairly evaluate the staff.
 

blacklistedbully

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And now that we finally got to play one of the bad defenses we've doubled the TD's in just one game. Who you play matters. It also takes time for a new system to take hold, and that's assuming you've got players with the skills and sufficient practice/experience running it.
 

blacklistedbully

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I'm crediting us with 70 points that we haven't scored yet. We've only scored 67 through 6 games, so i don't see how I'm being unfair
Like I said...we hadn't had a chance to play some of the bad defenses others had already played. Now we've played one, and added 52 points in 1 game to go with the 67 in 6.

We should be able to put up a ton of points vs OM as well. In one game, we improved our ppg from 11 to 17. If we put up more than 40 vs OM, we'll have averaged north of 20 ppg in-conference.
 
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