They are pretty crappy towards their MBA students as well.
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Yes, I don’t think he will be coaching for the Rutgers Football teams at Camden or Newark.
What if the kid did his entire high school senior year at Kean but only pulled a 1250 on his SAT. He'll enter where ever he goes as a sophomore.
Asking for a friend. :Sly:
Does Gleeson need to take his SATs and get 1300 to qualify to become OC here? Holy derailed topic Batman.
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Hard data beats opinion and hearsay every time; you are clearly a Rutgers grad!
Thanks for posting this.
Thanks for posting this.
Since Gleeson is a Williams grad, he should meet RU's admission standards!
I've posted about this many times, but it bears repeating. I spent 30+ years at Merck, which has the pre-eminent chemical engineering department in Pharma and RU is one of our 10 main "target" schools for Chem E's. Easy "proof" of why that is is that during my last 15 years, our senior staff typically had 3-4 RU grads (out of 6-7 total in a dept. of 110-125), including our department head for much of that time (my boss), i.e., the RU grads outperformed the folks from the Ivies/MIT/Cal/top state schools. I was in charge of recruiting for Rutgers ChemE's (and also mech E's, but we hired a lot less of them) for about 12 years and hired dozens of interns over those years, as well as about 7-8 full-time hires.
Several other science departments also recruit RU heavily at Merck (pharmacists, biologists, geneticists, etc.) and I know quite a few RU MBAs who are doing very well (VPs and up). If Wall Street is ignoring RU's talent, that seems like a miss on their part and maybe RU's part for not making a strong enough case.
This and like a million applicants to UCLA from the Asian continent helps skew their acceptance rate.
GO RU
wall street.... often who you know (and how much they have to invest) rather than what you know.....
It's painfully clear that some people on this board don't understand how AVERAGES work.
hope the rumors for Gleeson are true
also hope A Camp is coming
As for Berger - good luck to him. We have his buddy who may be our next Ray Rice on the field.
As for UCLA vs RU - both are good schools. RU as a state school and the only premier state school in the state has to provide seats for in state residents that qualify. RU as a public university also has to value diversity of the student body. RU is a very good school and top firms do recruit RU's best students.
As for kids choosing against RU it can be for many reasons. 1 main reason is NJ is a small state where many kids live within commuting distance (even if they live on campus for school). A lot of Middlesex, Monmouth, and Union cty kids are within 30 mins of campus. Going 2-6 hours out of state provides a true college experience with the opportunity to meet kids from a background that is different from NJ. A lot of Middlesex, Monmouth, and Union cty kids are within 30 mins of campus. If they choose a private college they may end up with smaller classes and more personal attention.
As mentioned RU has had issues in the past with career services. Not sure if it is improved but I remember they were no help to me in the late 90s and early 2000s when I graduated and shortly after when I had career transitions. I know friends who went to a private college in PA where they do monthly networking events and career services works with all levels of alumni in career transition.
also hope A Camp is coming
As for Berger - good luck to him. We have his buddy who may be our next Ray Rice on the field.
As for UCLA vs RU - both are good schools. RU as a state school and the only premier state school in the state has to provide seats for in state residents that qualify. RU as a public university also has to value diversity of the student body. RU is a very good school and top firms do recruit RU's best students.
As for kids choosing against RU it can be for many reasons. 1 main reason is NJ is a small state where many kids live within commuting distance (even if they live on campus for school). A lot of Middlesex, Monmouth, and Union cty kids are within 30 mins of campus. Going 2-6 hours out of state provides a true college experience with the opportunity to meet kids from a background that is different from NJ. A lot of Middlesex, Monmouth, and Union cty kids are within 30 mins of campus. If they choose a private college they may end up with smaller classes and more personal attention.
As mentioned RU has had issues in the past with career services. Not sure if it is improved but I remember they were no help to me in the late 90s and early 2000s when I graduated and shortly after when I had career transitions. I know friends who went to a private college in PA where they do monthly networking events and career services works with all levels of alumni in career transition.
I am asking for a friend....he has a son who eats a lot and really enjoys burgers with fries. I heard that your NJ engineering firm has a great cafeteria and a buffet that is all you can eat. Who should he contact in order to get an internship to get use of that cafeteria.....He is willing to move as long as a similar set-up is available. Lol
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I see you are still living in the past.
But agree with you on Wall Street being stupid to ignore RU talent, especially MBAs.
BS that No one recruits Rutgers for engineering. I work at an ENR top 10 Civil Firm and RU is definitely a targeted school. In fact, Rutgers is included in our scholarship program with the likes of Ga Tech, Toronto, Illinois and other top notch engineering schools
I knew multiple people who went directly from RU into Investment Banking and at least 2 of them are still involved in recruiting at RU. Total baloney that Wall Street does not recruit RU.
I am not sure if it's changed but at one point, RU was not on the list of schools Google could hire from. I wonder if our Computer Science dept. has gotten stronger. Hope so.
According to USNews, as of 2018, Rutgers’ graduate CS program is ranked #37 tied with the likes of UC Davis and UC Santa Barbara. However, there are other ways to judge the strength of a school’s CS program. For example, one could ask how many papers has Rutgers published in the area of computer science in comparison to other schools?
In AI, Rutgers ranks #17 in most papers published. In Systems, Rutgers ranks #36 in most papers published. In Theory, Rutgers ranks #38 in most papers published. In Interdisciplinary Areas, Rutgers ranks #25 in most papers published.
Note that there is a positive correlation between the size of a school’s faculty and the number of a school’s publications. More faculty equals more publications. The size of Rutgers’ CS faculty is relatively small to that of the elite CS schools.
If you’re interested in the number of papers published by different schools, I would recommend checking out the site I used in this answer, CSRankings, and play with the settings. Generally I look at the total number of publications in the largest time span possible, which is currently from 1970–2018 but this can be changed to fit your curiosity.
https://www.quora.com/What-is-Rutgers-computer-science-ranking
In AI, Rutgers ranks #17 in most papers published. In Systems, Rutgers ranks #36 in most papers published. In Theory, Rutgers ranks #38 in most papers published. In Interdisciplinary Areas, Rutgers ranks #25 in most papers published.
Note that there is a positive correlation between the size of a school’s faculty and the number of a school’s publications. More faculty equals more publications. The size of Rutgers’ CS faculty is relatively small to that of the elite CS schools.
If you’re interested in the number of papers published by different schools, I would recommend checking out the site I used in this answer, CSRankings, and play with the settings. Generally I look at the total number of publications in the largest time span possible, which is currently from 1970–2018 but this can be changed to fit your curiosity.
https://www.quora.com/What-is-Rutgers-computer-science-ranking
No need to wonder. It has always been strong and continues to get stronger. Better than UCLA's in my son's estimation:
Google, Apple, Facebook, Microsoft all hire RU CS grads. But that's not really where the interesting jobs are at.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tanya-b/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/viveksethm/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahleahwolfe/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/clifford-imhomoh-839883126/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/chiragchadha/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-habib-5b305767/
In short, RU has a really good reputation, but the reality is we are not on average on par with the elite public schools - Cal, UCLA, UMich, UTx and few others. That's not a knock at all, it just is what it is and we students (when I was a student 30 years ago) need to make our own breaks with the elite employers. It's not impossible, just harder coming from RU than the aforementioned universities.
True story while earning my MBA from RU - I participated in a summer internship program in Hartford (yes, large insurance company with a huge investment portfolio) between my 1st and 2nd year and struck up a conversation one evening with the lead recruiter for MBA talent. They recruited at 5 schools - Northwestern, Chicago, Wharton, Columbia and, for obvious political reasons, UConn (although there wasn't a single UConn student in the program that I can remember). The company, of course, accepted applicants from other schools (I was there from RU, there was a guy from State Penn and 2 from Duke) and when I suggested to the recruiter that they should add RU to the list (after all they could hit RU on the way up from Philly to NYC) she was quite clear - they had their schools and were not adding another. When I asked why not, her response was simply the old adage "no one ever got fired for buying IBM".
Of course much has changed in 30 years, but I imagine there are still many companies that have built in bias - whether earned or not.
True story while earning my MBA from RU - I participated in a summer internship program in Hartford (yes, large insurance company with a huge investment portfolio) between my 1st and 2nd year and struck up a conversation one evening with the lead recruiter for MBA talent. They recruited at 5 schools - Northwestern, Chicago, Wharton, Columbia and, for obvious political reasons, UConn (although there wasn't a single UConn student in the program that I can remember). The company, of course, accepted applicants from other schools (I was there from RU, there was a guy from State Penn and 2 from Duke) and when I suggested to the recruiter that they should add RU to the list (after all they could hit RU on the way up from Philly to NYC) she was quite clear - they had their schools and were not adding another. When I asked why not, her response was simply the old adage "no one ever got fired for buying IBM".
Of course much has changed in 30 years, but I imagine there are still many companies that have built in bias - whether earned or not.
I am a big proponent on Rutgers academically but this is a little hard to believe. According to the chart, the middle 50% math SAT score for incoming business, engineering and pharmacy students was 710 to 790. That means that 25% of the entering kids to these schools did better then 790, as in perfect 800 on math? The national average for 800 on math is less then 1%.
Or maybe as a RU grad, I am not smart enough to understand how to read this.
Any chance we can stop discussing topics unrelated to Gleeson on a Gleeson thread????????
Yes, RU could announce that Gleeson has been hired. In the meantime, we are killing time, and some are killing Rutgers.
If you are tired of this, head over to the "Jalen Berger top 5" thread where you can join the debate on whether we should have hired GS or not.
No, it means 25 percent got a score higher than 790. Spit balling here. 10 percent of that 25 percent could have scored 791. Another 14 percent of that 25 percent could have scored 792-799 and remaining 1 percent could have scored 800.
Nope, that is not right either. SAT scores are in increments of 10. There is no 791 through 799.
Well I learned something since its been a while. Then there is only one conclusion