Oats says no

OmahaCats

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Kentucky isn’t going to get a top hire. They’ll get a good coach. Not a great coach. Coaches who already gave a good thing going, don’t need the pressure of this fan base to run them out after a few years if they don’t make a final 4. It just doesn’t make sense to leave a good situation for that
 

LineSkiCat14

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While I believe Jay Wright's statement.. I don't believe Nate Oats at all.

But its going to be interesting to see if UK really is this coveted destination for coaching in 2024. It is NOT a good sign if some of these guys don't even have to think about leaving to come to UK. If Oats made up his mind in 5 seconds to stay at Alabama over UK (something Billy D essentially did 20 years ago), then maybe we need to take a long hard look in the mirror.
 

BluesDaddy

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Kentucky isn’t going to get a top hire. They’ll get a good coach. Not a great coach. Coaches who already gave a good thing going, don’t need the pressure of this fan base to run them out after a few years if they don’t make a final 4. It just doesn’t make sense to leave a good situation for that
That's it exactly! It's one of the reasons Barnhart didn’t want to fire him now.

UK fans have cranked the pressure here up to an 11, and big names just aren't interested in dealing with it when they already have a good thing in place elsewhere.

I fear we are in for a rude awakening over the coming days.
 

Jont0805

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Kentucky isn’t going to get a top hire. They’ll get a good coach. Not a great coach. Coaches who already gave a good thing going, don’t need the pressure of this fan base to run them out after a few years if they don’t make a final 4. It just doesn’t make sense to leave a good situation for that

Any coach that would be considered would have more than one tourney win in the last 4 years also.

This isn’t 2015. It wasn’t just the fans who knew it was time, most national media said the same thing and Cal himself left.

Any top coach sees those first 5 years as attainable and a legacy they can have and maintain. Cal easily could have done the same thing but he stopped.
 

Seth_C

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Kentucky isn’t going to get a top hire. They’ll get a good coach. Not a great coach. Coaches who already gave a good thing going, don’t need the pressure of this fan base to run them out after a few years if they don’t make a final 4. It just doesn’t make sense to leave a good situation for that
Hi, Brad. Found ya!
 
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While I believe Jay Wright's statement.. I don't believe Nate Oats at all.

But its going to be interesting to see if UK really is this coveted destination for coaching in 2024. It is NOT a good sign if some of these guys don't even have to think about leaving to come to UK. If Oats made up his mind in 5 seconds to stay at Alabama over UK (something Billy D essentially did 20 years ago), then maybe we need to take a long hard look in the mirror.
Coveted destination? According to Matt Jones facilities stink, NIL is one of the worst in the SEC, on top of that you have insane expectations, and every coach since Rupp was hated by the fanbase.
 

ukcatz12

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Calipari knew exactly what he was doing with the timing of all this. He is a master narcissist and knows what’s available out there. He left this program in about as bad of a spot as possible, which is what every person connected to him from his past said he would do. Not good but we will dig out of it in a couple years.
Cal didn't know ****. He couldn't exactly leave for the Arkansas job until the Arkansas job opened up, could he? If there was no other jobs he would have been miserable here next year and stayed. It's not like he could have left for Arkansas three weeks ago.
 

CHAMPCAT11

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Kentucky isn’t going to get a top hire. They’ll get a good coach. Not a great coach. Coaches who already gave a good thing going, don’t need the pressure of this fan base to run them out after a few years if they don’t make a final 4. It just doesn’t make sense to leave a good situation for that
This ^. The pressure from the BBN is real and a lot of coaches don’t want it. Plenty of money elsewhere.
 

WeWant9

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The timing to get Oats is not good. He’s fresh off a FF and they’re is some excitement around that program. Hard to pull someone away from that, days removed from their first ever FF.
 
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LadyCaytIL

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Coveted destination? According to Matt Jones facilities stink, NIL is one of the worst in the SEC, on top of that you have insane expectations, and every coach since Rupp was hated by the fanbase.
you are either manipulating what Matt says or didnt listen. Matt has said for a year now the NIL was bad because Cal has pushed away the boosters for a few years now. The Card shop in Tn is offering Reed 1 million to come back ........ Craft spends 5 million dollars on a christmas ham. If the next coach does their job and makes friends with the boosters, the NIL will be over floweth
 

*Fox2Monk*

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you are either manipulating what Matt says or didnt listen. Matt has said for a year now the NIL was bad because Cal has pushed away the boosters for a few years now. The Card shop in Tn is offering Reed 1 million to come back ........ Craft spends 5 million dollars on a christmas ham. If the next coach does their job and makes friends with the boosters, the NIL will be over floweth
Not to mention get a public fund and a great coach and fans across the state will donate. I’d give $100 easy. Multiply that by 500k fans on average.
 

LineSkiCat14

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Coveted destination? According to Matt Jones facilities stink, NIL is one of the worst in the SEC, on top of that you have insane expectations, and every coach since Rupp was hated by the fanbase.

That's kind of what I'm getting at. I hope we can stick this coaching hire, but I'm a little concerned UK isn't quite the spot some want to think it is.
 

preacherfan

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Coveted destination? According to Matt Jones facilities stink, NIL is one of the worst in the SEC, on top of that you have insane expectations, and every coach since Rupp was hated by the fanbase.

You needed Matt Jones to know that? Half of this board could have told you all those things!
 

Son_Of_Saul

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While I believe Jay Wright's statement.. I don't believe Nate Oats at all.

But its going to be interesting to see if UK really is this coveted destination for coaching in 2024. It is NOT a good sign if some of these guys don't even have to think about leaving to come to UK. If Oats made up his mind in 5 seconds to stay at Alabama over UK (something Billy D essentially did 20 years ago), then maybe we need to take a long hard look in the mirror.
So if two or three guys turn us down, that means UK is suddenly less than we thought? Were we lesser in 2007 when Billy D, Jay Wright and numerous others turned us down?

Were we lesser in 1989 when Lute Olsen turned us down?

I think you might need to rethink your point. We've been rejected before, and it had nothing to do with how "coveted" we were.
 

catagious

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Kentucky isn’t going to get a top hire. They’ll get a good coach. Not a great coach. Coaches who already gave a good thing going, don’t need the pressure of this fan base to run them out after a few years if they don’t make a final 4. It just doesn’t make sense to leave a good situation for that
Final 4??? Getting out of the first weekend would be nice.
 
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He’d listen if called. Of course he would. How many coaches have issued statements exactly like this one only take the job they were rumored to be taking only days later?
I don’t think you are reading this through the correct lens. This nothing like what you normally hear. Most of the comments you are referencing are a bit more dodgy and vague. This is about as explicit as a coach can be. He just said “thanks but no thanks” and ain’t leaving Bama.