O.T. GOT Spoilers Bitches
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Pretty good episode, but a bit slower than last week. This was an episode that basically confirmed a lot of things that book readers thought. Robert Strong is zombie Gregor, Howland Reed got in the sneak attack to kill Arthur Dayne, Jon's watch is over now that he's "died". RIP, Shaggydog. Suck it, Thorne. And all hail Lord Commander Dolorous Edd.
Im really curious when they will return to the ToJ during the season, and how Bran will react.
As much as i love Tyrion, that scene was awful.
When the Umbers brought out Osha my first thoughts were "17, here comes Rickon and they will bothe be flayed" and Shaggy Dog got a cheap death..
Also, Jon Snow says that there was "nothing" in death, does that confirm that he wasn't a Warg? I would think that he would spend some time in Ghost after being stabbed.
As much as i love Tyrion, that scene was awful.
When the Umbers brought out Osha my first thoughts were "17, here comes Rickon and they will bothe be flayed" and Shaggy Dog got a cheap death..
Also, Jon Snow says that there was "nothing" in death, does that confirm that he wasn't a Warg? I would think that he would spend some time in Ghost after being stabbed.
Im thinking In the flashback we're going to find out more who John Snow really is. We think he's Ned's bastard but I think he's actually a Targaryan. I think Neds sister was raped by the mad king in that castle thing in the flashback. The result is John Snow. Ned protects his sister by claiming as his own.
The show writers are showing Lyanna as a good rider and fighter, so i dont think she is "kidnapped" , more like she leaves with Rhaygar in secret marriage. They hint at this in season 5 as well (Littlefinger/Sansa scene in the crypts of Winterfell).
The going theory is that Jon Snow is the legitimate son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen (the mad king's prince son, aka the heir to the throne). Obviously, he would be a direct threat to Robert Baratheon's throne so, to protect him, Ned claimed him as his bastard son at her dying request. This is all theory however because it hasn't been written yet. It makes a TON of sense though. I have no idea how it could be proven though as far as him having a claim to the throne. Howland Reed would be the only person in the world that could confirm it and why would the world take the word of that one man.
Pretty good episode. I like that we got to see Varys' little birds. They all have their tongues cut out in the books, right? I thought I remembered something like that. Thats only the third time I've been sad watching the show. The other two were when Lady and Greywind died.
That's Rickon, the youngest Stark.
He, Osha, and Shaggydog split up from Bran & co for safety. Betrayed by the Umbers, which I suspect will be very different from the books.
He, Osha, and Shaggydog split up from Bran & co for safety. Betrayed by the Umbers, which I suspect will be very different from the books.
I like the twins theory.
There's a few reasons it's probably not true, but I like the theory that Lyanna died giving birth to twins - Jon goes with Eddard, and Meera goes with Howland reed. Meera is the same age as Jon and looks similar to him in the show. In the books, she has a similar description as Lyanna and Arya. Howland Reed also owed a debt to the Knight of the Laughing Tree, who is hinted at being Lyanna Stark.
There's a few reasons it's probably not true, but I like the theory that Lyanna died giving birth to twins - Jon goes with Eddard, and Meera goes with Howland reed. Meera is the same age as Jon and looks similar to him in the show. In the books, she has a similar description as Lyanna and Arya. Howland Reed also owed a debt to the Knight of the Laughing Tree, who is hinted at being Lyanna Stark.
I'm openly rooting for Dany to die..
6 seasons in and she's in exactly the same place she was in the very first episode. A captive of the horse people. And her character is allowed only one facial expression.. That of contemplative constipation. Making it worse, her story is now dragging down the most interesting character.. Tyrion.
Just kill her and move on.
6 seasons in and she's in exactly the same place she was in the very first episode. A captive of the horse people. And her character is allowed only one facial expression.. That of contemplative constipation. Making it worse, her story is now dragging down the most interesting character.. Tyrion.
Just kill her and move on.
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Arthur was loyal to Rhaegar not Aerys(the mad King). Hence why he was at the Tower instead of in Kings Landing preventing the Jamie Lannister stabbing the king in the back and Pycelle opening the gates to Tywin(the real beginning of all the issues with Dorne). It's better explained in the books. Rhaegar was on the verge of overthrowing his father(because of the madness) when his actions initiating Robert's Rebellion happened. Well, he ran off with Ned's sister. The actual initiation was the Mad King murdering Ned's father, brother, and companions and demanding Ned and Robert's heads from Jon Arryn(they were both still squires in the Eyrie). Arryn rebelled, Ned snuck back north to raise the north, met in Riverrun to marry Cat(who was promised to his burned brother), Arryn to marry Lysa, and they secured the Tullys in the alliance.
I have to agree with you. I think we'll be pleased with how their storyline ends up playing out but right now it's very boring. Hopefully it won't drag out all season and they will insert Euron and his ships into their plot before seasons end. We'll probably find out who is leading the sons of the harpy before too long. Gotta think it's someone in Dany's circle i.e. Daario, Varys, or a dark horse in Missandei.
He's quite possibly the only male heir capable of continuing the direct blood line of Ned Stark. He's set to inherit winterfell after Bran, and his children would inherit it from then on if Bran's injury prevents him from having kids.
Kinda always been a Chekhov's gun for that reason IMO.
I'd love for it to be Littlefinger
But I think it has to be someone closer than that. My money's on Daario.
But I think it has to be someone closer than that. My money's on Daario.
And just as the Mountain is about to defeat the Hound, the High Sparrow stabs the Mountain from behind, just as he did to Arthur Dayne when he was known as Howland Reed.
I believe a few others have hinted at it, but I want to go on record (having only watched the show and not read the books) that Lyanna was not kidnapped but left willingly because she didn't want to marry Robert, which seeing the way he turned out as king, who could blame her.
I think the big reveal won't be just that Jon is Targareyan, but that he is also legitimate in that Rhaegar and Lyanna had been married. Which would actually put him in line for the throne ahead of Dany.
I also think there is a possibility that Lyanna is alive, perhaps in Essos somewhere to be safe.
I think the big reveal won't be just that Jon is Targareyan, but that he is also legitimate in that Rhaegar and Lyanna had been married. Which would actually put him in line for the throne ahead of Dany.
I also think there is a possibility that Lyanna is alive, perhaps in Essos somewhere to be safe.
They alluded to it last night. "He will only have to defeat one."
The Hound did not die, and is in the Riverlands healing up. There will be a "Trial by Combat" for Cercei - and she will choose Frankenstiened Mountain. The High Sparrow will choose the Hound, the Mountains brother that he burned as a child.
I subscribe to the theory that the High Sparrow is Howland Reed, who was shown via flashback last night stabbing Arthur Dayne in the back. I also believe when we see Lyanna in the Tower of Joy, there will be twins. Jon Snow and Meera Reed. Ned took Jon and Howland took Meera. Meera is still with Bran in the tree and Jon is about to wreck Winterfell.
Arthur Dayne was unbeatable. The show did a good job of showing how badass he was. He had to be stabbed in the back to be defeated. Frankenstiened Mountain is also unbeatable. Just a little theory.
The Hound did not die, and is in the Riverlands healing up. There will be a "Trial by Combat" for Cercei - and she will choose Frankenstiened Mountain. The High Sparrow will choose the Hound, the Mountains brother that he burned as a child.
I subscribe to the theory that the High Sparrow is Howland Reed, who was shown via flashback last night stabbing Arthur Dayne in the back. I also believe when we see Lyanna in the Tower of Joy, there will be twins. Jon Snow and Meera Reed. Ned took Jon and Howland took Meera. Meera is still with Bran in the tree and Jon is about to wreck Winterfell.
Arthur Dayne was unbeatable. The show did a good job of showing how badass he was. He had to be stabbed in the back to be defeated. Frankenstiened Mountain is also unbeatable. Just a little theory.
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2016...g-after-welcome-to-the-tower-of-joy/?mod=e2fb
" Many fans believe otherwise, that Lyanna wanted to be with Rhaegar and gave birth to his child — and that child came to be known as Jon Snow."
"If Bran can affect the past, that means he will change the present and the future. What if he’s somehow able to prevent the war between Robert and the Targaryens?"
That would be the shittiest way for everything to end.
"Well readers/viewers, now that you've gone through 7 seasons of this show, everything is undone by time travel magic and none of it ever actually happened, well it did, but now it didn't, so bye, hope you enjoyed."
"Well readers/viewers, now that you've gone through 7 seasons of this show, everything is undone by time travel magic and none of it ever actually happened, well it did, but now it didn't, so bye, hope you enjoyed."
CLEGANEBOWL CONFIRMED GETHYPE
probably another thread altogether, but I think HS=HR is a stretch. I thought Euron = Daario held more weight.
probably another thread altogether, but I think HS=HR is a stretch. I thought Euron = Daario held more weight.
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