NU Facilities?

starhusker

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Could Bill Moos announce updates on NU facilities when the season ends? This was in the Omaha.com site when Gray committment .

“Gray said by text Thursday he was on a team bus and couldn’t give an interview. On Tuesday, he told 247Sports his official visit sold him on what Nebraska had to offer.

"The atmosphere was crazy," Gray said. "The 90,000 fans were great. They were full of energy and very nice. The highlights for me were the nice facilities and my meeting with Coach Fisher and Coach (Scott) Frost.”

Nebraska is kicking the tires on new football facilities; an announcement on progress could come before the season is done.”
 

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A Big west championship would loosen a lot of donors purse strings. A 6-7 win season and they may still be drawn a bit tight.

Some donors still have alligator arms after all the help given for buyouts with the program in recent years. The CU game didn’t help.
 
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HUSKERFAN66

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A Big west championship would loosen a lot of donors purse strings. A 6-7 win season and they may still be drawn a bit tight.

Some donors still have alligator arms after all the help given for buyouts with the program in recent years. The CU game didn’t help.
Disagree. I think it pissed off the donors. Regardless, this is in the bag prior.
 

HUSKERFAN66

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A Big west championship would loosen a lot of donors purse strings. A 6-7 win season and they may still be drawn a bit tight.

Some donors still have alligator arms after all the help given for buyouts with the program in recent years. The CU game didn’t help.
And truthfully, I don't know any sane Husker fan that doesn't have a very long leash on Coach Frost. Now we may ***** and moan.....but he's our guy. Not sure he's yours. Hell I don't even know if you're a Husker fan.lol syke
 

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And truthfully, I don't know any sane Husker fan that doesn't have a very long leash on Coach Frost. Now we may ***** and moan.....but he's our guy. Not sure he's yours. Hell I don't even know if you're a Husker fan.lol syke

He can be your guy and still have some reluctance when it comes to writing million dollar checks.
 

Redscarlet

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A Big west championship would loosen a lot of donors purse strings. A 6-7 win season and they may still be drawn a bit tight.

Some donors still have alligator arms after all the help given for buyouts with the program in recent years. The CU game didn’t help.

Did you forget the payout Nebraska is now getting from the B1G...

More involved in this than just the donors..
 

DudznSudz

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Yeah we have plenty of money, from athletic deals and all that money we get from the Big Ten, to donors and such. Money is not the issue.
 

Ewooc

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He can be your guy and still have some reluctance when it comes to writing million dollar checks.
It really doesn't matter if he was the coach or not. Neb is in need of new/.larger facilities either way to keep up with not only the rest of the country but the BIG10.
 

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a large part of these facilities are paid through existing endowments and fund raising -
the conference payouts will help - but every institution in the conference gets that

the difference is the money raised to supplement the conference payouts - other conference schools have much deeper wells in which to dip

University Endowments: in billions

Michigan....... 11.9
NW ...............11.1
OSU ........... 5.2
PSU ...............4.3
Minnesota ..... 3.7
Wisconsin ......3.0
MSU ..............2.9
ILL .................2.6
Purdue ..........2.5
Indiana ..........2.4
Nebraska .......1.7
Iowa ..............1.5
Rutgers .........1.3
Maryland .......1.3

Grinnel College - Iowa - 2 billion

LSU and Clemson both have under a billion -- they fund their facilities with massive donor funding on top of conference payouts

we will have top facilities based on being new -- the question is will we be able to raise enough and be willing to spend enough so that in 5 - 10 years they are still among the best or are we going to just build facilities that are the equal of others and will soon be passed up

interested in others who have more direct knowledge as to how these facilities are funded
 
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I could be wrong, but I don't believe that the UNL Foundation endowment has ever been used for athletic department purposes, at least not in the past few decades. The East Stadium expansion was funded through a combination of athletic department reserves, donor contributions, a bond issue of about $15 million and advance sales of sky boxes and club seats.
 

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I could be wrong, but I don't believe that the UNL Foundation endowment has ever been used for athletic department purposes, at least not in the past few decades. The East Stadium expansion was funded through a combination of athletic department reserves, donor contributions, a bond issue of about $15 million and advance sales of sky boxes and club seats.

thanks - I thought that some endowment gifts can be specifically earmarked for athletics

also I wonder if endowment size may be an indicator of both the ability and willingness of alums to donate to the university
 

cecilB

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It’s in the works, quiet rallying around a campaign is beginning.

Also, for the endowment post- that means nothing for this project. Endowed funds are restricted by use. The U can’t use them for whatever they want- not how it works
 

Lincoln100

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A Big west championship would loosen a lot of donors purse strings. A 6-7 win season and they may still be drawn a bit tight.

Some donors still have alligator arms after all the help given for buyouts with the program in recent years. The CU game didn’t help.

Yawn
 
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Yes we have lots of money. But we need to remember that NU football basically funds all of the other athletic programs. We have big money but also big expenses
 
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Yes we have lots of money. But we need to remember that NU football basically funds all of the other athletic programs. We have big money but also big expenses
Exactly why you need to keep the cash cow that is football operating at the highest level possible to keep paying the bills. They should want for nothing. Moos and Frost will get it built and it will be spectacular.
 

Blackshirt316

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Yes we have lots of money. But we need to remember that NU football basically funds all of the other athletic programs. We have big money but also big expenses

The Athletic Department puts around $15M a year in the reserve fund and donates $5M a year back to the university with the scholarship fund on top of covering all the other sports.

Expenses are NOT an issue here.
 
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Yes we have lots of money. But we need to remember that NU football basically funds all of the other athletic programs. We have big money but also big expenses
And yet another reason to invest more into our football program. It will no doubt be very costly but will pay for itself and other NU athletics in the long run.
 

DudznSudz

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I can speak to these issues a little bit:

As far as endowments go, the posters mentioning that most of those funds are earmarked or reserved is true. Just as a neat history lesson: Many universities in the Big Ten have huge endowments, and many of those funds come from really cool historical events.

For example, Michigan has a METRIC TON of money for a combination of reasons:
1.) Detroit used to generate a ****-load of wealth for America, in particular the auto industry. The state university system benefited tremendously from that and from wealthy donors and alumni. Cal-Berkeley has had a very similar development path over the years, and the two universities are often thought of as being equal to each other.
2.) Michigan is enormous and has a huge alumni base. Many of these alums, over the last 120-odd years, have done quite well. Remember, at a time when many of the elite Ivy League's and other private universities on the East Coast had quotas or outright banned Jews, women, and other groups of students, Michigan did not. And, it was cheaper. Other than the cost, Northwestern and a bunch of other Big Ten schools (particularly the ones in the Eastern half of our conference) were able to attract a lot of smart people living in the massive East Coast cities or in Chicago to attend their universities for far less money, and they provided essentially the same level of education as any Ivy League school. This was definitely a part of the late 19th-early 20th Century Progressive movement, which definitely took root in the Midwest. Bob LaFollette, of Wisconsin, is heavily associated with the University of Wisconsin and progressive politics in particular that allowed education to be accessible to the masses instead of just an elite thing.
3.) A lot of these universities hold patents on things that generate or used to generate a ton of money. Wisconsin invented Vitamin D milk. Michigan has invented a ton of ****. While the university holds a patent, they rake in the money for the invention.

Now, as far as Athletics goes, I know that Nebraska's is all self-funded, and while it is not impossible to use university dollars for what is technically a university program, they tend to not do that because A.) they don't need the money and B.) Many of the funds they could use are restricted or come with a loooot of red tape. We became an excellent program through, in part, very canny negotiations that got us great television contracts and earned us a lot of money at a time when many teams hand't figured that out yet. Not only that, but we have a healthy donor base, and we're now a part of the wealthiest conference in college football (see above).

This is why I say, we will be fine. All they have to do is make the decision to start building.
 
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Exactly why you need to keep the cash cow that is football operating at the highest level possible to keep paying the bills. They should want for nothing. Moos and Frost will get it built and it will be spectacular.
I agree. Not saying we should not invest in this. I am on record as someone who supports us having the best facilities in the B1G.
 

John_J_Rambo

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I can speak to these issues a little bit:

As far as endowments go, the posters mentioning that most of those funds are earmarked or reserved is true. Just as a neat history lesson: Many universities in the Big Ten have huge endowments, and many of those funds come from really cool historical events.

For example, Michigan has a METRIC TON of money for a combination of reasons:
1.) Detroit used to generate a ****-load of wealth for America, in particular the auto industry. The state university system benefited tremendously from that and from wealthy donors and alumni. Cal-Berkeley has had a very similar development path over the years, and the two universities are often thought of as being equal to each other.
2.) Michigan is enormous and has a huge alumni base. Many of these alums, over the last 120-odd years, have done quite well. Remember, at a time when many of the elite Ivy League's and other private universities on the East Coast had quotas or outright banned Jews, women, and other groups of students, Michigan did not. And, it was cheaper. Other than the cost, Northwestern and a bunch of other Big Ten schools (particularly the ones in the Eastern half of our conference) were able to attract a lot of smart people living in the massive East Coast cities or in Chicago to attend their universities for far less money, and they provided essentially the same level of education as any Ivy League school. This was definitely a part of the late 19th-early 20th Century Progressive movement, which definitely took root in the Midwest. Bob LaFollette, of Wisconsin, is heavily associated with the University of Wisconsin and progressive politics in particular that allowed education to be accessible to the masses instead of just an elite thing.
3.) A lot of these universities hold patents on things that generate or used to generate a ton of money. Wisconsin invented Vitamin D milk. Michigan has invented a ton of ****. While the university holds a patent, they rake in the money for the invention.

Now, as far as Athletics goes, I know that Nebraska's is all self-funded, and while it is not impossible to use university dollars for what is technically a university program, they tend to not do that because A.) they don't need the money and B.) Many of the funds they could use are restricted or come with a loooot of red tape. We became an excellent program through, in part, very canny negotiations that got us great television contracts and earned us a lot of money at a time when many teams hand't figured that out yet. Not only that, but we have a healthy donor base, and we're now a part of the wealthiest conference in college football (see above).

This is why I say, we will be fine. All they have to do is make the decision to start building.

the McRib was invented at the University of Nebraska

never, ever forget.
 

AFA64

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a large part of these facilities are paid through existing endowments and fund raising -
the conference payouts will help - but every institution in the conference gets that

the difference is the money raised to supplement the conference payouts - other conference schools have much deeper wells in which to dip

University Endowments: in billions

Michigan....... 11.9
NW ...............11.1
OSU ........... 5.2
PSU ...............4.3
Minnesota ..... 3.7
Wisconsin ......3.0
MSU ..............2.9
ILL .................2.6
Purdue ..........2.5
Indiana ..........2.4
Nebraska .......1.7
Iowa ..............1.5
Rutgers .........1.3
Maryland .......1.3

Grinnel College - Iowa - 2 billion

LSU and Clemson both have under a billion -- they fund their facilities with massive donor funding on top of conference payouts

we will have top facilities based on being new -- the question is will we be able to raise enough and be willing to spend enough so that in 5 - 10 years they are still among the best or are we going to just build facilities that are the equal of others and will soon be passed up

interested in others who have more direct knowledge as to how these facilities are funded
The Texas school endowments make this look like chicken feed. But I hope ours keeps growing.
 

Ewooc

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we will have top facilities based on being new -- the question is will we be able to raise enough and be willing to spend enough so that in 5 - 10 years they are still among the best or are we going to just build facilities that are the equal of others and will soon be passed up
My guess is if/ when this gets done. We will be the best or top at min,top 5 facilities in the country. Yes, teams will continually redo theirs, we in turn will again to the same, but that is how the game and world works. Nobody in any good business just stands still and lets the others pass you bye, you do that you die.
 

Redscarlet

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My guess is if/ when this gets done. We will be the best or top at min,top 5 facilities in the country. Yes, teams will continually redo theirs, we in turn will again to the same, but that is how the game and world works. Nobody in any good business just stands still and lets the others pass you bye, you do that you die.

Top 5 might be a little much but Top 10 would be just fine..;)
 

HUSKERFAN66

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the McRib was invented at the University of Nebraska

never, ever forget.
Yep. I don't think we really cashed in on that one very well. Wasn't there also a cereal made from Milo too?? I think it was kind of a Japanese thing if memory serves me correctly
 
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As has already been stated by many, MONEY IS NOT THE ISSUE and hasn't been for quite a while. The issue simply is picking the best time politically to kick off the project. Period. Not more complicated than that.
 

jolley

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I can speak to these issues a little bit:

As far as endowments go, the posters mentioning that most of those funds are earmarked or reserved is true. Just as a neat history lesson: Many universities in the Big Ten have huge endowments, and many of those funds come from really cool historical events.

For example, Michigan has a METRIC TON of money for a combination of reasons:
1.) Detroit used to generate a ****-load of wealth for America, in particular the auto industry. The state university system benefited tremendously from that and from wealthy donors and alumni. Cal-Berkeley has had a very similar development path over the years, and the two universities are often thought of as being equal to each other.
2.) Michigan is enormous and has a huge alumni base. Many of these alums, over the last 120-odd years, have done quite well. Remember, at a time when many of the elite Ivy League's and other private universities on the East Coast had quotas or outright banned Jews, women, and other groups of students, Michigan did not. And, it was cheaper. Other than the cost, Northwestern and a bunch of other Big Ten schools (particularly the ones in the Eastern half of our conference) were able to attract a lot of smart people living in the massive East Coast cities or in Chicago to attend their universities for far less money, and they provided essentially the same level of education as any Ivy League school. This was definitely a part of the late 19th-early 20th Century Progressive movement, which definitely took root in the Midwest. Bob LaFollette, of Wisconsin, is heavily associated with the University of Wisconsin and progressive politics in particular that allowed education to be accessible to the masses instead of just an elite thing.
3.) A lot of these universities hold patents on things that generate or used to generate a ton of money. Wisconsin invented Vitamin D milk. Michigan has invented a ton of ****. While the university holds a patent, they rake in the money for the invention.

Now, as far as Athletics goes, I know that Nebraska's is all self-funded, and while it is not impossible to use university dollars for what is technically a university program, they tend to not do that because A.) they don't need the money and B.) Many of the funds they could use are restricted or come with a loooot of red tape. We became an excellent program through, in part, very canny negotiations that got us great television contracts and earned us a lot of money at a time when many teams hand't figured that out yet. Not only that, but we have a healthy donor base, and we're now a part of the wealthiest conference in college football (see above).

This is why I say, we will be fine. All they have to do is make the decision to start building.
yes, NU invented gatorade, and it was stolen by fu (florida)
 

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As has already been stated by many, MONEY IS NOT THE ISSUE and hasn't been for quite a while. The issue simply is picking the best time politically to kick off the project. Period. Not more complicated than that.

What are the political hurdles?

Is there pushback about not investing more in academics in hopes of closing the gap with the rest of the big ten schools
 
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Redscarlet

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until we get a new stadium we are just covering it up with a better looking band-aid.

What does a new stadium have to do with football facilities...It’s all the essentials that you have like better and bigger locker rooms, bigger and better Hydrotherapy pool, larger weight room, nicer players lounge with a bowling alleys, a Barbershop,etc etc.

There will never be a NEW stadium built.
 

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And truthfully, I don't know any sane Husker fan that doesn't have a very long leash on Coach Frost. Now we may ***** and moan.....but he's our guy. Not sure he's yours. Hell I don't even know if you're a Husker fan.lol syke
He's the man at least for seven years
 
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As always, I will remind people it is about the cost of maintenance and operation not the actual cost of building of the facilities. The initial costs can be asked for and received, Those annual costs are what are expensive.