Now I will say it

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

Fire Mullen.

On the field he's less than mediocre (7-21 against current SEC West Head Coaches).

In recruiting he makes up for his lack of salesmanship with non-existent effort (see: Lashley & Brown)

He's simply cashing our checks and waiting for the next big job (which no one will give him because we pay him 3 times what he's worth).

For God's sake we've got recruits openly talking about how our staff is lazy and bad at recruiting!

Fire him yesterday.

 

[ronpolk]

At least one of you Mullen haters finally sacked up and called for his firing.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

At least one of you Mullen haters finally sacked up and called for his firing.

Yes! 17 this pity party.

 

[civildawg88]

No way you can fire him over a signing class but once Ole Miss destroys us again

in November and we win 6 games I really hope people will pull the plug before they let it get too bad. I have a prediction about next year as well. We are going to win 6 games and people are not going to want to fire him so they can keep this 2017 recruiting class together. That should not help keep a coach.

 

[rugbdawg]

Well, in his defense, the writing is on the wall. I'll say this:

When we see Dak in some preseason NFL games before the season starts next year, we are gonna realize why Dan tried to leave. Dak's a lot better than people give him credit for.

It's a wait and see thing. But, if I had to bet, I'd say Mullen will be out of Starkville by December 2018. He could be forced out by the end of 2017.

 

[tatedog]

David Cutcliffe says "hi."

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

Get back to me

In two years when he's gone. Until then he's just a waste of money that could be better spent on Howland and the basketball program.

 

[ChinaDogSunflower]

I could see this happening

 

[BossDawg78]

When we see Dak in some preseason NFL games before the season starts next year, we are gonna realize why Dan tried to leave. Dak's a lot better than people give him credit for.

It's a wait and see thing. But, if I had to bet, I'd say Mullen will be out of Starkville by December 2018. He could be forced out by the end of 2017.

It's Dan's own damn fault for not getting a sweeter deal. If he refuses to change his ways and recruit better he will be State's coach forever and never be a hot commodity....just a hot rumor.

 

[Hanmudog]

Dear Lord.

Name the MSU coaches that have ever won 19 games in two years.

Dipshits.

 

[ronpolk]

Clearly you don't understand that we have not beaten a team worth a **** ever**

 

[ChinaDogSunflower]

Dan't Mullen has only beaten one team that has finished with a winning SEC record. Think about that. Really, sit back and take a deep breath and let it sink in for just a second.

Just because we go to a bowl game every year isn't a reason to celebrate, there are 40 (so many that they are calling up teams that don't even finish with a winning record nowadays, for real Missouri was 5-7 and declined a blow invite).

 

[Dawgtini]

Dan't Mullen has only beaten one team that has finished with a winning SEC record. Think about that. Really, sit back and take a deep breath and let it sink in for just a second.

Just because we go to a bowl game every year isn't a reason to celebrate, there are 40 (so many that they are calling up teams that don't even finish with a winning record nowadays, for real).

Well, if we hadn't screwed up and just went ahead and lost to them, they could have had a winning record.

 

[KurtRambis4]

The thing I don't get

is when people say "all he does is beat crappy teams!1," well that may be the case, but if it's so easy why has no coach before him ever done this?

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

He does only beat crappy teams. His best wins are 9-4, 8-5, 8-5, 8-5 and then a slew of 7-6 teams.

Our past coaches' ineptitude doesn't mean Mullen is a world beater. We signed Simmons? Yay! We should have cleaned up this year and instead our coach was shopping for a job. I'm glad to have the guys we got, but we aren't going anywhere unless we start recruiting on a new level. Mullen isn't taking us to that level.

 

[paindonthurt_]

B/c they aren't smart enough to realize it.

I'm pissed about recruiting but for 17 sakes, he got us where we are now. If we average 9 wins for the next 2 or 3 and he doesn't win a new years day 6 in that time, then maybe we can Stansbury him. Until then, people are gonna be stupid. They can't help it.

 

[99jc]

Because we have the Dumbest M'fKERS for fans in the SEC you stupid bastards have

is when people say "all he does is beat crappy teams!1," well that may be the case, but if it's so easy why has no coach before him ever done this?

no clue what we have here. you get your nutts worn to a frazzle because rev beaver teeth recruits better. God almighty we were #1 in the country and you stupid redneck ignorant bastards sound like a bunch of winey *** bitches. All of you so called MSU Fans go *** yourselves. damn it when we go back to 5-6 wins a year then ***** otherwise shut the HELL UP dumb ********! I wish I could send all you dickheads back to the Charlie Shira Era then you would understand.

 

[ronpolk]

is when people say "all he does is beat crappy teams!1," well that may be the case, but if it's so easy why has no coach before him ever done this?

I raised that question yesterday in another thread and the rebuttal was we never were all in or bad leadership (LT I'm assuming) or bad coach. So, basically in our entire history, we've only had one coach that could get us above .500 for any extended amount of time but that is certainly not a credit to Mullen but rather everyone else just sucked. Apparently Mullen walked in to a sleeping giant.

Blows my mind that for 100 plus years of football we had this powerhouse program but just nobody cared. I'm sure Mullen is glad he lucked up and got here when we were all in**.

 

[ChinaDogSunflower]

Because there wasn't the revenue, facility and talent disparity that exists today. Way too much money is coming in to be satisfied beating UK and 4 cupcakes to go to a bowl

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

is when people say "all he does is beat crappy teams!1," well that may be the case, but if it's so easy why has no coach before him ever done this?

Cuz all we have to do is fire him and the magic man is out there that will take us to the top overnight.

#apatheticfanssettle
#rickrayagrees
#20winsaintshit
#nogibwinsevah
**

 

[Dawg1976]

is when people say "all he does is beat crappy teams!1," well that may be the case, but if it's so easy why has no coach before him ever done this?

True. Firing Mullen will not happen anytime soon, even if we have a losing record next year.

 

[johnson86-1]

Because there wasn't the revenue, facility and talent disparity that exists today. Way too much money is coming in to be satisfied beating UK and 4 cupcakes to go to a bowl

I've said it before, but it bears repeating, there are options other than being satisfied and being stupid. You don't blow a program up just because their are problems.

I'm a little pissed at the way Mullen and crew handled recruiting this year, especially on the OL (not only do they lose Lashley, but they end up with 3 OL signed? Un17ing acceptable; if you're gonig to sign nothing but project OL, you need at least 4. Nothing in this staff's past record suggests their skills at evaluating OL justify only taking three projects). But trying to push him out would be a colossal 17up. It seems clear that Mullen's recruiting is going to stop him from reaching the next level. But that just means we enjoy the 7-9 win seasons for a while and hope that consistently winning helps build a better foundation for the next guy.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Awesome.

He does only beat crappy teams. His best wins are 9-4, 8-5, 8-5, 8-5 and then a slew of 7-6 teams.

No **** Einstein, hence the "that may be the case"

Our past coaches' ineptitude doesn't mean Mullen is a world beater. We signed Simmons? Yay! We should have cleaned up this year and instead our coach was shopping for a job. I'm glad to have the guys we got, but we aren't going anywhere unless we start recruiting on a new level. Mullen isn't taking us to that level.

So what do you propose, blow the mother 17er up? I find it funny that you have Jackie in your profile pic, then ***** about Mullen not beating good teams. Jackie's two best years we were 1-2 against the three best teams we played with the wins both being home games.

Do you want to go back to, losing to the worst LSU teams in their history? Losing to Kentucky? Losing to unranked Arkansas teams at home? Losing to unranked Ole Miss teams at home? Losing to unranked Memphis State at home? Losing to Unranked Air Force? Losing to unranked South Carolina at home? Losing to unranked NE Louisiana? Losing to unranked LA Tech at home? 2001-2003? All so we can beat 1 ranked team a year, while going 8-4 or 9-3?

What in the 17 do you want for our leadership to do, Einstein, since you have it all figured out.

 

[dawgstudent]

We also tied Arkansas State one time. 15-15. I was there.

 

[Shmuley]

Mullen will make somebody a helluva OC. That's where he needs to be. He's made enough money off of us to last 6 lifetimes. Why not let somebody else deal with the HC ****? Limit recruiting responsibility to 6-8 kids per class. Bring home $800 large. I think that's his long term future.

 

[HD6]

God, your dad asked me if I wanted to go with y'all. Thank God I said no.

 

[DerHntr]

I was at state for the first 4 years of Croom. That being said, I don't care for Mullen's style and I think his recruiting needs a complete overhaul, but firing him is ridiculous.

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

What in the 17 do you want for our leadership to do, Einstein, since you have it all figured out.

If you'd like to revisit those final Jackie years, I think you'll love 2018 or 2019.

God forbid MSU cut bait on a coach before he manages to drive the whole bus right into the ditch.

Obviously we can't fire him because he's "the best coach we've ever had." But we can not renew his contract. And before you say that will hurt recruiting, will it hurt it worse than his job-shopping? If what I've read is true, then he didn't even visit Lashley who lives less than 20 minutes from the stadium and plays the position we need more than any other. If he's "above recruiting" then he's in the wrong job.

I'm thankful for what Mullen has done to steer us out of the Croom death-spin. I'm not ready to deify him for it like others, but I am thankful. But if he doesn't want to be here (and I think that's clearly the case) then why in the world should we wait until he's eroded everything he's built to find the next coach?

 

[patdog]

God forbid MSU cut bait on a coach before he manages to drive the whole bus right into the ditch.

We could at least wait until he's not coming off of one of the 5 best seasons we've had in the last 40 years.

 

[KurtRambis4]

So you're suggestion

is to fire a coach coming off b2b seasons where we won 19 games?

That's 17ing brilliant.

I bet we'd have mother 17ers blowing the doors down to fight for our job, knowing all they had to do was improve on that.*****

 

[T-TownDawgg]

I wish someone from Whitfield would fire up the paddy wagon and load all you sandy vaginas up and lock you all away so you can sit swaying silently in your padded room clutching your backstreet boy posters drooling; pining for the good old days, where earth and sea revolve around dumbass teenagers who get some cash and strange tossed in their face. For once will reluctantly refuse to use the amount of "seventeens" i am digesting right now. We are MSU we will never be the school to sign crops of 4-5 start recruits. Ever occur to anyone that the players ending up in our camp WANT to be one of us? Program is doing ok. Could always be better. All you peach fuzz nutted bastards must be too young to remember the Felker and croom regimes. Wanna jump ship when your twitter feed makes you spit out your pacifier and **** your diaper-go be bama fans. Pussies. Sure don't remember everyone streaming confetti when Dak signed with us. As to what ole piss is doing, don't care. FYI they have a little different mentality. About everything.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

No **** Einstein, hence the "that may be the case"



So what do you propose, blow the mother 17er up? I find it funny that you have Jackie in your profile pic, then ***** about Mullen not beating good teams. Jackie's two best years we were 1-2 against the three best teams we played with the wins both being home games.

Do you want to go back to, losing to the worst LSU teams in their history? Losing to Kentucky? Losing to unranked Arkansas teams at home? Losing to unranked Ole Miss teams at home? Losing to unranked Memphis State at home? Losing to Unranked Air Force? Losing to unranked South Carolina at home? Losing to unranked NE Louisiana? Losing to unranked LA Tech at home? 2001-2003? All so we can beat 1 ranked team a year, while going 8-4 or 9-3?

What in the 17 do you want for our leadership to do, Einstein, since you have it all figured out.

Ohhhh!!! Roasted you!

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

I bet we'd have mother 17ers blowing the doors down to fight for our job, knowing all they had to do was improve on that.*****

We pay him top 20 money. It's not 1999 anymore. Miami, one of the most notable programs in recent history, couldn't pay enough to justify Mullen leaving. Think about that for a second. Miami can't match us for salary or facilities.

But yeah man, we're poor ol' MSU and Mullen is the best we can hope for. That's Templeton thinking right there.

I bet there are more than few good coaches who might like a shot at doubling their salary at MSU and playing in the best conference in the country. All they'd have to do is go 7-21 vs. the West to match Mullen.

is to fire a coach coming off b2b seasons where we won 19 games?

First, Einstein, I said we couldn't fire him. Learn to read better.

Second, 10 of those 19 wins you keep ranting about are Kentucky and Cupcakes (great band name if Mullen & Hev want to start one).

 

[TheStateUofMS]

We pay him top 20 money. It's not 1999 anymore. Miami, one of the most notable programs in recent history, couldn't pay enough to justify Mullen leaving. Think about that for a second. Miami can't match us for salary or facilities.

But yeah man, we're poor ol' MSU and Mullen is the best we can hope for. That's Templeton thinking right there.

I bet there are more than few good coaches who might like a shot at doubling their salary at MSU and playing in the best conference in the country. All they'd have to do is go 7-21 vs. the West to match Mullen.



First, Einstein, I said we couldn't fire him. Learn to read better.

Second, 10 of those 19 wins you keep ranting about are Kentucky and Cupcakes (great band name if Mullen & Hev want to start one).

Remember...we're one Rick Ray away....

Give me a few names of folks you think are or would be available and we could probably get on a given year. Just name a few coaches you could see taking a job at State at some point regardless of their current status.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

no clue what we have here. you get your nutts worn to a frazzle because rev beaver teeth recruits better. God almighty we were #1 in the country and you stupid redneck ignorant bastards sound like a bunch of winey *** bitches. All of you so called MSU Fans go *** yourselves. damn it when we go back to 5-6 wins a year then ***** otherwise shut the HELL UP dumb ********! I wish I could send all you dickheads back to the Charlie Shira Era then you would understand.

^^^Top Shelf! Would read again!!*

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

Give me a few names of folks you think are or would be available and we could probably get on a given year. Just name a few coaches you could see taking a job at State at some point regardless of their current status.

Click here. Start at about 38 or 40. Work your way down. Pick your favorite 5 or 10.

Then click here and pick another 5 or 10 of your favorites.

 

[KurtRambis4]

You're first 17ing

First, Einstein, I said we couldn't fire him. Learn to read better.

post in this thread (that you started) says to fire him, Einstein. Are you that 17ing dumb, that you forgot what you wrote this morning?

 

[TheStateUofMS]

I've said it before, but it bears repeating, there are options other than being satisfied and being stupid. You don't blow a program up just because their are problems.

I'm a little pissed at the way Mullen and crew handled recruiting this year, especially on the OL (not only do they lose Lashley, but they end up with 3 OL signed? Un17ing acceptable; if you're gonig to sign nothing but project OL, you need at least 4. Nothing in this staff's past record suggests their skills at evaluating OL justify only taking three projects). But trying to push him out would be a colossal 17up. It seems clear that Mullen's recruiting is going to stop him from reaching the next level. But that just means we enjoy the 7-9 win seasons for a while and hope that consistently winning helps build a better foundation for the next guy.

1) Yes. Play the game and we'll be fine. Where are the cigar boys? Bring them outta retirement. We're a gang of you away from stardom.

2) Who are the projects. Other than Parker they had SEC and P5 offers. I think this is a good OL class, but unfortuneatly fell a player or two short. Lashley and Kush flipping sucked. But Reese is a monster. Have you not seen these guys' videos? I think Parker looks good. All the guys are maulers with yuuuge size. I think we'll be fine here. You're right on not signing enough players though. It's not too late to sign someone. Maybe we can go find a guy.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

 

[kired]

I'm a little pissed at the way Mullen and crew handled recruiting this year, especially on the OL (not only do they lose Lashley, but they end up with 3 OL signed? Un17ing acceptable; if you're gonig to sign nothing but project OL, you need at least 4. Nothing in this staff's past record suggests their skills at evaluating OL justify only taking three projects).

I've gotta disagree with this. No reason to add 2 more projects in a limited class. None will play next year anyway. Need to start over and land a top notch OL next year.