Notre Dame V. Miami?

KingWard

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I hate ND. That mindset is unconditional and bordering on psychotic. I can't see them losing this one tonight with the CFP hopes resting squarely upon winning. I hope I am proven mistaken.
 
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Deathstar

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We had a second home in MIA so MIA is my second team. Lots of our friends attended the U. Hate ND, they are over-rated and mostly suck playing a weak no conference schedule. They are basically an ACC team.
 

I4CtheFuture

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We had a second home in MIA so MIA is my second team. Lots of our friends attended the U. Hate ND, they are over-rated and mostly suck playing a weak no conference schedule. They are basically an ACC team.
It appears that Miami is highly, highly overrated. I was afraid they were frauds.
 

18IsTheMan

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It appears that Miami is highly, highly overrated. I was afraid they were frauds.
They needed ref help against FSU and UNC. They really haven't looked super impressive outside of Clemson and Stanford. Unfortunately, they only play one good team (to whom they are currently losing) so they'll finish 11-1.
 

Lurker123

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Miami played without that one wr, and he is very good. If I were Miami, I'd be wanting a playoff rematch.
 
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Harvard Gamecock

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We had a second home in MIA so MIA is my second team. Lots of our friends attended the U. Hate ND, they are over-rated and mostly suck playing a weak no conference schedule. They are basically an ACC team.
Same here.
Two of my close friends are UM grads, along with their wives as well. One of the wives works in one of the Administration offices.
Thanks to her, she shares some confidential information that goes on behind the scenes. She is not in the Athletic Department, but as she states" It's just like any other business environment, You hear things from all the departments".
 

18IsTheMan

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Full control of the ball. Check
2 Feet in bounds. Check
Step out of bounds, play is dead. Wait, What ? What do you mean no.

Oh, were at ND. I get it now.
Looked to me like the ball was wobbly before his foot hit out of bounds.

In my opinion, if you possess the ball in the endzone, the play is dead and it's a TD. Once you have the ball firmly in your hands with your feet down, it's a TD. No different than when a player leaps to push the ball across the goal line and then someone knocks it out after the ball breaks the plane...doesn't matter. Ball was possessed across the goal line, so it's TD.

Nevertheless, this is how they call it.

We were screwed out of a TD, I think against VaTech a couple years. Receiver came down with the ball, both feet in bounds. I don't recall all that happened, but I think the ball ended up popping out after he fell out of bounds I think (memory is fuzzy). To me, it was a crystal clear TD. Even some of our fans agreed with the call though.

As it is, UM should have lost to FSU if not for ref help and they also got two weird and extremely favorable back-to-back calls on on-sides kicks by UNC to seal that game.

Based on common sense, I think this is a TD. Based on how they typically call these kinds of plays, it's not a catch.
 
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Piscis

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Looked to me like the ball was wobbly before his foot hit out of bounds.

In my opinion, if you possess the ball in the endzone, the play is dead and it's a TD. Once you have the ball firmly in your hands with your feet down, it's a TD. No different than when a player leaps to push the ball across the goal line and then someone knocks it out after the ball breaks the plane...doesn't matter. Ball was possessed across the goal line, so it's TD.

Nevertheless, this is how they call it.

We were screwed out of a TD, I think against VaTech a couple years. Receiver came down with the ball, both feet in bounds. I don't recall all that happened, but I think the ball ended up popping out after he fell out of bounds I think (memory is fuzzy). To me, it was a crystal clear TD. Even some of our fans agreed with the call though.

As it is, UM should have lost to FSU if not for ref help and they also got two weird and extremely favorable back-to-back calls on on-sides kicks by UNC to seal that game.

Based on common sense, I think this is a TD. Based on how they typically call these kinds of plays, it's not a catch.
I think the rule on a pass is, you have to control the ball to the ground and/or have control of the ball after the catch if you go out of bounds. I've seen lots of passes like that called incomplete because the receiver didn't control the ball as he went out of bounds.
 
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18IsTheMan

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I think the rule on a pass is, you have to control the ball to the ground and/or have control of the ball after the catch if you go out of bounds. I've seen lots of passes like that called incomplete because the receiver didn't control the ball as he went out of bounds.
Yeah. It's stupid, but I think this is pretty consistent with how it's called.
 

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Full control of the ball. Check
2 Feet in bounds. Check
Step out of bounds, play is dead. Wait, What ? What do you mean no.

Oh, were at ND. I get it now.
Hello haters. ND has no officials being independent. All the Miami whining is funny since the officials are from their conference! ND gets hosed many times by not being in a conference and that’s part of the price they pay. Look at the end of the BYU-ND game—no objective fan would say that was fair. Look at the end of the tA&M-ND game last year—same story. I was at the game Saturday night and it was great to shut up all the trash talking Miami fans beside us.
 

Piscis

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Hello haters. ND has no officials being independent. All the Miami whining is funny since the officials are from their conference! ND gets hosed many times by not being in a conference and that’s part of the price they pay. Look at the end of the BYU-ND game—no objective fan would say that was fair. Look at the end of the tA&M-ND game last year—same story. I was at the game Saturday night and it was great to shut up all the trash talking Miami fans beside us.
Miami fans look like someone opened the doors to a bunch of prisons and let the inmates out to go on a field trip to a football game.
 
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Harvard Gamecock

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Hello haters. ND has no officials being independent. All the Miami whining is funny since the officials are from their conference! ND gets hosed many times by not being in a conference and that’s part of the price they pay. Look at the end of the BYU-ND game—no objective fan would say that was fair. Look at the end of the tA&M-ND game last year—same story. I was at the game Saturday night and it was great to shut up all the trash talking Miami fans beside us.
 

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Hello haters. ND has no officials being independent. All the Miami whining is funny since the officials are from their conference! ND gets hosed many times by not being in a conference and that’s part of the price they pay. Look at the end of the BYU-ND game—no objective fan would say that was fair. Look at the end of the tA&M-ND game last year—same story. I was at the game Saturday night and it was great to shut up all the trash talking Miami fans beside us.
100% TD.

ND is a fraud. Plays nobody.
 
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18IsTheMan

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(I know that.....shhhhh.....)

100% TD.

ND is a fraud. Plays nobody.
Have you looked at Miami's schedule? lol

At this point, ND and Miami have each played 2 teams currently ranked. They are both 1-1 in those games. ND's schedule is probably a smidge harder, as they played two top 10 teams. Miami hasn't played any.
 

I4CtheFuture

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Have you looked at Miami's schedule? lol

At this point, ND and Miami have each played 2 teams currently ranked. They are both 1-1 in those games. ND's schedule is probably a smidge harder, as they played two top 10 teams. Miami hasn't played any.
No, I haven't looked at Miami's schedule because I'm a South Carolina / SEC homer and I know Miami is in the ACC and therefor they are automatically given ZERO credit by me.

ACC = worlds tallest midget. I'll stand on what I said. ND plays nobody. Ever. Until they're forced.
 

Deathstar

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Miami fans look like someone opened the doors to a bunch of prisons and let the inmates out to go on a field trip to a football game.
Well they do play in Miami Gardens. The biggest mistake The U made was leaving the Orange Bowl and having their games 15 miles north of their school in the hood. They will never get another stadium in town, the real estate is too expensive now anyway.
 

Harvard Gamecock

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Well they do play in Miami Gardens. The biggest mistake The U made was leaving the Orange Bowl and having their games 15 miles north of their school in the hood. They will never get another stadium in town, the real estate is too expensive now anyway.
It wasn't a voluntary move. The City of Miami council took a vote to tear down the OB, claiming renovations would be to costly.
Getting a stadium built in Coral Gables due to land value is monetarily prohibitive. The closest tract of land near campus is Tropical Park roughly 4 miles from campus, but county owned.
 
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Piscis

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It wasn't a voluntary move. The City of Miami council took a vote to tear down the OB, claiming renovations would be to costly.
Getting a stadium built in Coral Gables due to land value is monetarily prohibitive. The closest tract of land to campus is Tropical Park roughly 4 miles from campus, but county owned.

To be completely fair, WB isn't exactly campus adjacent.
 
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It wasn't a voluntary move. The City of Miami council took a vote to tear down the OB, claiming renovations would be to costly.
Getting a stadium built in Coral Gables due to land value is monetarily prohibitive. The closest tract of land near campus is Tropical Park roughly 4 miles from campus, but county owned.
They should build it at the Seaquarium site, lol…
 

Piscis

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I think having your stadium closer to campus, in walking distance is Definetly a plus for the whole game day experience. But then parking becomes a problem.
I think Clemson has about the best of all worlds as far as their stadium location. The stadium is right next to campus and within easy walking distance of "downtown", but because they are in a small town with lots of open land around campus, parking is plentiful too.

Now, the traffic situation getting in and out of that place is hellish. I have a Clemson friend who lived in Charlotte, about a 2 1/2 hour drive to Clemson. He left home at 7:30 am to go to a noon kickoff game and missed the first quarter because he was stuck in traffic. I went to a night game with him that ended at 11:00 and we were staying in Greenville. We got back to the hotel at 2 am.
 
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