Not a comfortable discussion but a needed one...

iceheart08

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First off, I stated 'rationale/excuse' purposely as the word excuse has a level of negative connotation. In short, he was rationalizing what he said. So how would you characterize his public statement? An apology, contrition, justification, or?

he apologized. he didnt rationalize anything by stating that he was black.

you are making that insinuation. Out of thin air I would say.
 

iceheart08

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Wow. You assume he is a white Christian Male? Do you go around assuming people's genders too?

 

lodgercu

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he apologized. he didnt rationalize anything by stating that he was black.

you are making that insinuation. Out of thin air I would say.
You are just adding to the othersides arguement. So if it was an apology, and using Johnny Manzel as an example, you wouldn't see any issue with him say, "well I grew up a rich white kid, so..."
 
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who is using race as an "excuse"? honestly. who?

you have to read an awful lot into a social media post from someone you've never met in your entire life to get to criticizing the kid for "using race as an excuse".

bringing up race, and the fact that a person's race can be a factor in the way they experience the world isnt "using race as an excuse".
 

Orangeoveralls

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This isn't about politics. That's a nice try at deflection and I would expect no less from you in this matter. Saying we don't understand or pointing out our hypocrisy is not the issue. My point is that using race as a key description in his explanation is a very poor choice. He had people helping him with this tweet. So they are playing on race as part of this justification. I find that insulting. Saying a 20 year old can't conduct himself accordingly because they are excited is yet another excuse.

Ha!!! The reasons that Donald trump should not be president are not about politics either.

He is disqualified based upon basic standards of decorum and human decency and at the juvenile level simply thinking before you speak.

Same things ur complaining about with this guy.

The cherry on top is ur call to everyone to call him out. How ironic!!

I am not outraged or anything. It really is funny!!!
 

IMBlessed

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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ley-atlanta-falcons-fined-draft-day-profanity

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Never meant to disrespect the NFL or whoever else felt uncomfortable watching a young black kid who came from nothing show raw pure emotion <a href="https://t.co/Ce5wfPHsDx">https://t.co/Ce5wfPHsDx</a></p>&mdash; Takkarist McKinley (@Takk) <a href="">May 1, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Why bring up his race as though somehow that kind of behavior is about race or anything else? I get so tired of seeing people use race to justify things. I mean what is he trying to say with this comment? Because he's black and from nothing, he can act how he wants? Is it that we don't understand how it's really OK to behave that way since we're not black and from nothing? Cussing that way and being out of his mind is raw emotion for him?

It just sets the bar so low on the basis of skin pigmentation and that's pure garbage to me. I am happy for him achieving his dream and I admire his ability to overcome so much to reach this point. But to me, all those things are signs of strength of character not weakness. It has nothing whatsoever to do with him being black. He's a man just like me. The color of his skin is utterly meaningless in the true scheme of things.

I realize that to society and other humans, we may see skin color but the reality is his blood is just like mine and we are brothers in humanity. I don't see a need for him or anyone else to play race as a crutch for how he behaved or anything else. Just way over the line for me. I actually find this far more distasteful than I did his behavior when he was drafted.

Thoughts?
Many are Upset with this young man, questioning his intelligence/fit for society etc & his response to Personal/Family Dream & Life Changing Opportunities...Ok!
Now Where is the Outrage with Our President & His Many, Many Outrageous Actions & Comments? Just Asking!
 
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