Northwestern protocols

[CollegeSenior]

What are the protocols if a player dies in a car accident the day before a game?

What are the protocols if a campus has a tragedy the day of a scheduled game?

What are the protocols if there’s a meningitis outbreak?

We don’t have strict rules and playbooks for every possible situation. Decision makers have to make judgement calls.

 

[ru66]

Just hope RU doesn't catch it

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Being that these are their own protocols, and not conference protocols, they should be losses not cancellations. Period.

Absolutely should be forfeits

 

[NickRU714]

Big Ten rules require 7 players available.

Northwestern has fewer than 7 players available.

Why are the rules based on “scholarship” players and not entire roster?

Any minimum requirements should be based on full roster.
If they have 7 players (regardless of scholarship) then the minimum should be met.

 

[DJ Spanky]

What are the protocols if a player dies in a car accident the day before a game?

What are the protocols if a campus has a tragedy the day of a scheduled game?

What are the protocols if there’s a meningitis outbreak?

We don’t have strict rules and playbooks for every possible situation. Decision makers have to make judgement calls.

I suspect the required # of scholarship players always comes into play, but, as you said, there are judgement calls made. Look at UVA and they're decision to cancel the last 2 football games of the 2022 season.

Why are the rules based on “scholarship” players and not entire roster?

Because many times the non-scholarship players on a roster are there strictly to be practice players.

 

[bac2therac]

Danny Hurley wearing a mask...lol

 

[NickRU714]

I suspect the required # of scholarship players always comes into play, but, as you said, there are judgement calls made. Look at UVA and they're decision to cancel the last 2 football games of the 2022 season.



Because many times the non-scholarship players on a roster are there strictly to be practice players.

What’s to stop a team from having 8 scholarship players and just “postponing” games whenever they want?
We could have done that earlier when Paul and Caleb were out.

Only play games when at full strength.
Unless the league is mandating a minimum # of scholarship players then the rules should be based on full roster.

It’s not the other teams fault NW only has 7 “scholarship” players.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Danny Hurley wearing a mask...lol

Disguising himself after all of the recent losses?

 

[scarletnewyorker2006]

Because most people high up in academic have an incredibly broad vocabulary (which they believe makes them highly intelligent) and an incredibly shallow ability to critically think. It's an echo chamber of stupidity. Don't think Rutgers is far from them or any other school.

Amen

 

[CollegeSenior]

Danny Hurley wearing a mask...lol

Japan is set to classify covid as flu for legal reasons going forward

Amazing how quickly covid clears up

Danny Hurley wearing a mask...lol

Third attempt to derail the thread? I admire your perseverance.

 

[Fat Koko]

The B1G honchos should announce now their Covid policy for the conference tournament.

For example, if Northwestern invokes Covid because it chooses it doesn’t want to play one day, how will the B1G adjust the tournament schedule?

If Cook County’s community level is judged by the CDC to be high, will the B1G follow CDC guidance to mandate masks inside the United Center, or will CDC protocols be ignored at the same time Northwestern’s protocols are adhered to strictly?

 

[zappaa]

Danny Hurley wearing a mask...lol

Maybe the dude has a respiratory issue we don’t know about Bac
It’s his choice.
He’s opting to wear one in an arena filled with maskless people….it’s his choice

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

The B1G honchos should announce now their Covid policy for the conference tournament.

For example, if Northwestern invokes Covid because it chooses it doesn’t want to play one day, how will the B1G adjust the tournament schedule?

If Cook County’s community level is judged by the CDC to be high, will the B1G follow CDC guidance to mandate masks inside the United Center, or will CDC protocols be ignored at the same time Northwestern’s protocols are adhered to strictly?

Have them forfeit and go home to watch the games on tv

 

[bac2therac]

Maybe the dude has a respiratory issue we don’t know about Bac
It’s his choice.
He’s opting to wear one in an arena filled with maskless people….it’s his choice

except many times it was below his nose...says everything

my guess is he is being forced to wear one because he just had covid so doing it as precaution..yet he isnt even wearing it right and its not a N95 so that is why I am doing a lol

 

[bac2therac]

Third attempt to derail the thread? I admire your perseverance.

its called discussing facts surrounding the issue, its not politics, its reality. Hurley had covid, but is he cleared..if so, why is he wearing a mask....and then why is it below his nose and why is he pulling it down so the players can hear him speak.

 

[CollegeSenior]

its called discussing facts surrounding the issue, its not politics, its reality. Hurley had covid, but is he cleared..if so, why is he wearing a mask....and then why is it below his nose and why is he pulling it down so the players can hear him speak.

Has zero, nothing, zip, nada to do with NW’s or B1G‘s protocols.

 

[zappaa]

except many times it was below his nose...says everything

my guess is he is being forced to wear one because he just had covid so doing it as precaution..yet he isnt even wearing it right and its not a N95 so that is why I am doing a lol

I agree.
Proper masks and wearing them correctly is NOT emphasized and barely acknowledged…why do you suppose that is?

 

[bac2therac]

I agree.
Proper masks and wearing them correctly is NOT emphasized and barely acknowledged…why do you suppose that is?

because the whole thing is done for show by the schools and politicians..to show they are doing something rather than actually caring about health and saving lives. Its easier to pretend.

 

[bac2therac]

Has zero, nothing, zip, nada to do with NW’s or B1G‘s protocols.

yeah it does because next I will ask if the Northwestern players and possibly coaching staff will be wearing masks on Monday

but the bigger point is the Northwestern protocols are being done for show...thats why I brought up Japan and how they plan to address things going forward

we can address and discuss things like adults here or can we can grab your panties the way you just did because everything is political for someone like you.

 

[zappaa]

Has zero, nothing, zip, nada to do with NW’s or B1G‘s protocols.

Do you find wearing masks that don’t work and worn incorrectly an issue that should be addressed?

 

[CollegeSenior]

Do you find wearing masks that don’t work and worn incorrectly an issue that should be addressed?

In general, yes. But not on TKR because of, of, well you know why.

 

[CollegeSenior]

yeah it does because next I will ask if the Northwestern players and possibly coaching staff will be wearing masks on Monday

but the bigger point is the Northwestern protocols are being done for show...thats why I brought up Japan and how they plan to address things going forward

we can address and discuss things like adults here or can we can grab your panties the way you just did because everything is political for someone like you.

Spanky - a moderator - specifically asked that the discussion be kept to NW’s protocols. Adults can do that

 

[koleszar]

These rules applied to the 2021-2022 season, not the current season, based on a statement the conference published.

Please point me to the Big Ten statement confirming the rules, “are still in effect,” through the current season.

https://bigten.org/news/2021/12/28/...en-conference-covid-19-forfeiture-policy.aspx

What concerns me is Northwestern didn’t bother to take advantage of its 13 scholarships, and now is having success pretending an outdated and expired rule still applies to Northwestern.

The Big Ten should demand Northwestern complete the game with its 6 scholarship players and the walk-ons, or forfeit.

I read this is Northwestern protocols also read the B1G ceased their protocols for this year and would leave it up to the individual schools. @AZBlues is wrong this being a B1G decision it's a Northwestern decision. However, what I also read is if you report Covid as a cause, the league will postpone the game and try to reschedule instead of automatic forfeiture. The league no longer requires you to test, so again it's a Northwestern decision.

 

[AZBlues]

I read this is Northwestern protocols also read the B1G ceased their protocols for this year and would leave it up to the individual schools. @AZBlues is wrong this being a B1G decision it's a Northwestern decision. However, what I also read is if you report Covid as a cause, the league will postpone the game and try to reschedule instead of automatic forfeiture. The league no longer requires you to test, so again it's a Northwestern decision.

I apologize if I was wrong. At least 3 articles that I read about the Northwestern situation stated that the B1G policy from 12/2021 was still in effect.

Edit: And I never stated that it was a B1G decision to cancel the games. I'm not sure why you posted that. I only mentioned the 7 player requirement which is accurate, and posted a link to the most recent conference covid forfeiture policy, which several current articles stated was still in effect (despite it being intended to cover the 21-22 season when it was implemented a year ago). And I later posted a quote from the Wisconsin State Journal newspaper that stated that a conference spokesperson confirmed that the policy was still in place...

 

[RU-ROCS]

If you give someone a scholarship, that should count as a scholarship player, wtf?

You do realize RU put 5’-9” walkon Aiden Terry on scholarship last year as a reward for being an exemplary practice player. Are you really advocating that he should count as a scholarship player if this involved RU and not NWU?

 

[knight82]

Danny Hurley wearing a mask...lol

every ref's dream. They probably want to tighten it

 

[fluoxetine]

You do realize RU put 5’-9” walkon Aiden Terry on scholarship last year as a reward for being an exemplary practice player. Are you really advocating that he should count as a scholarship player if this involved RU and not NWU?

Yes. He is a player. He is on scholarship.

 

[AZBlues]

I read this is Northwestern protocols also read the B1G ceased their protocols for this year and would leave it up to the individual schools. @AZBlues is wrong this being a B1G decision it's a Northwestern decision. However, what I also read is if you report Covid as a cause, the league will postpone the game and try to reschedule instead of automatic forfeiture. The league no longer requires you to test, so again it's a Northwestern decision.

kolezar, I believe you, but could you please provide your source so I can read it?

Also, below is the policy from the Dec 2021 policy update that I posted was still in effect. Are you saying that none of these are currently valid?

“No contests” won’t count as wins or losses for any team. Forfeitures will count as wins and losses.
The number of available competitors each team has will factor into the Big Ten’s review of canceled or postponed events.

For men’s and women’s basketball, at least seven scholarship athletes and one coach will need to be available for games to be played. If teams do not meet those requirements, they can still play if competition is deemed safe by appropriate personnel.

Men’s and women’s basketball games can also still be canceled, even if teams meet the Big Ten’s requirements for competition.

If a coach or medical staff member believes it would be unsafe for their team to participate, games can be canceled or postponed. In such a case, the contest would not automatically be considered a forfeiture.

If an institution meets the Big Ten’s requirements to play a game but cancels a contest anyway, the school would have to provide circumstantial evidence to prove they did not participate for safety reasons.

If the school can prove it canceled a game for safety reasons, canceled contests won’t impact win-loss records. If a school can’t prove it canceled a game for safety reasons, the contest will be ruled a forfeiture, and the canceling institution will have a loss tacked onto its record.
Teams slated to face forfeiting teams will also have wins added to their season totals.
Games that are initially postponed, and later can’t be rescheduled, will be considered “no contests.”

 

[NickRU714]

You do realize RU put 5’-9” walkon Aiden Terry on scholarship last year as a reward for being an exemplary practice player. Are you really advocating that he should count as a scholarship player if this involved RU and not NWU?

Why shouldn't he?
If they are using this weird "scholarship player" designation then yes all scholarship players should apply.

If you make it reasonable like my earlier suggestion - use all players on the roster (scholarship or not) then it's not an issue.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

Iowa and Wisconsin shouldn’t be penalized, however. By potentially having to play extra games, crowded into the end of the season schedule, they ARE being “penalized.” Both of these should be losses for Northwestern. That’s all I’m saying.

This.

 

[AZBlues]

I wonder if all of you who feel that Northwestern should automatically forfeit (because they only have 6 players available due to Covid) also feel that it would be appropriate for Rutgers to forfeit several games and be assessed losses if a bunch of our players became infected with Covid and we couldn't play several games.... Hopefully we'll never get a chance to find out the answer...

 

[fluoxetine]

I wonder if all of you who feel that Northwestern should automatically forfeit (because they only have 6 players available due to Covid) also feel that it would be appropriate for Rutgers to forfeit several games and be assessed losses if a bunch of our players became infected with Covid and we couldn't play several games.... Hopefully we'll never get a chance to find out the answer...

It depends. If the Big Ten is forcing them to test all of those people and saying they can’t play if they test positive then I’m fine with postponing the games. If this is just Northwestern’s own policy, then **** ‘em. Same goes if it’s us.

 

[RU-ROCS]

Why shouldn't he?
If they are using this weird "scholarship player" designation then yes all scholarship players should apply.

If you make it reasonable like my earlier suggestion - use all players on the roster (scholarship or not) then it's not an issue.

I guess I just don’t like that the rule creates a disincentive for teams to do the right thing and reward walkons with one year scholarships when they are available.

 

[bac2therac]

I wonder if all of you who feel that Northwestern should automatically forfeit (because they only have 6 players available due to Covid) also feel that it would be appropriate for Rutgers to forfeit several games and be assessed losses if a bunch of our players became infected with Covid and we couldn't play several games.... Hopefully we'll never get a chance to find out the answer...

Yes

And if they arent sick they should play just like they would if they had flu

 

[Mikemarc]

Are they unavailable because they’re sick (fevers, aches) or because they simply tested positive for Covid

I’d assume they didn’t feel good so got tested.

Don’t think any programs just randomly test anymore.

 

[needmorecowbell]

Curious whose rules say you can’t play without 7 scholarship players available, or any number for that matter?

Uconn women had the same issue. Everyone is dealing with the same rules. If you have less than 7 players available (due to covid) the game is canceled / postponed.

 

[needmorecowbell]

Yes

And if they arent sick they should play just like they would if they had flu

The ncaa isn’t making teams forfeit for covid. Everyone in the big ten has the same rules. If covid hit the Rutgers, Iowa or Northwestern they would cancel the game.

Edit: the only conference still forfeiting games for covid is the SEC I think… they apparently left it in place to insure teams are vaccinating players.

 

[fluoxetine]

I’d assume they didn’t feel good so got tested.

Don’t think any programs just randomly test anymore.

I wouldn't assume this. I assume someone didn't feel good which is why they got tested. But I would guess once they tested positive they tested others (who were not sick) as well. But this is 100% speculation.

They definitely aren't testing randomly anymore or this would've happened a lot more.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

I wouldn't assume this. I assume someone didn't feel good which is why they got tested. But I would guess once they tested positive they tested others (who were not sick) as well. But this is 100% speculation.

They definitely aren't testing randomly anymore or this would've happened a lot more.

Yes - good way of putting it.

At this point, testing is a given in 2 situations a) you are required to take a test for a medical procedure (PCRs are still required within 24 hours of certain hospital based exams like colonoscopies) b) you are sick enough to require hospitalization (where they test for everything). I guess we’ll see who plays tomorrow, but if they had guys in the hospital with severe illness the game wouldn’t have been rescheduled for tomorrow already. Hard not to wonder if NW would’ve done this while Kris Murray and Conner McCaffrey we’re out and Iowa was fresh off a Q4 loss.

 

[RUtrumpet92_rivals498139]

At this point, testing is a given in 2 situations a) you are required to take a test for a medical procedure (PCRs are still required within 24 hours of certain hospital based exams like colonoscopies)

When I went for my colonoscopy a few months ago, no test was required. I was asked if I tested positive for covid within X days of my procedure. I'm sure the rules vary by facility and maybe by state.

We don't know if Northwestern tested everyone on the team regardless of symptoms or not. At least, I don't recall reading that. The end result will be an advantage for Maryland over Wisconsin on Wednesday, getting extra rest and prep time for their game; less rest for Iowa before they play Northwestern; and more rest for Michigan before they play Northwestern. Iowa will still have three full days off before their next game after the make-up so that's pretty minor IMO.

The league should have a league-wide policy still in place and not leave this to individual schools