North Carolina vs Duke / Game Thread

RU848789

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Love was the difference down the stretch. So glad to see Coach K and Duke not make the finals. Go Kansas. I guess.
 

gregkoko

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bitnez

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Coach K barely coached this year. His assistants carried him. But, I admit I’ve never really liked him.
 

goru7

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UNC guards Davis and Love are better than anyone else’s when they play like they have this tournament. Great guards still win in March and April. There were some high level shot making. Even after some missed foul shots and open threes , Manek came back and hit a big 3 and then Love took over. Lots of pros in this game.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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1. Why weren’t illegal screens called? Every possession Bacot screened illegally
2. Love makes the big 3 and his defender went under the screen.
3. Game is definitely morphing to NBA
 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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1. Why weren’t illegal screens called? Every possession Bacot screened illegally
2. Love makes the big 3 and his defender went under the screen.
3. Game is definitely morphing to NBA
1) College refs don't know what legal screening looks like. Few college teams are good at it anyway.
2) Love missed about 8 threes, and they couldn't stop him from getting to the rim when he decided to drive, so that was the right decision.
3) The execution is much better in the NBA.
 
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Loyal_2RU

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Huh? I'm just happy that K lost


That being said that was tremendous basketball
I didn't see passing, teamwork, assists set plays, etc. I saw a few picks, a lot of athleticism, and a lot of excellent shooting or drives.

I prefer college to NBA because it is more of a team game. I didn't see team games here.
 
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LotusAggressor_rivals

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I didn't see passing, teamwork, assists set plays, etc. I saw a few picks, a lot of athleticism, and a lot of excellent shooting or drives.

I prefer college to NBA because it is new of a team game. I didn't see team games here.
The Golden State Warriors played exactly the kind of team basketball all the purists pine for, and everybody complained that they were ruining basketball by winning too much. There's a lot more team basketball being played in the NBA. College basketball hasn't been a team game since the one and done phenomenon took over.
 

rufeelinit

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Love how the whole Duke team but one player skipped the handshake line.

good riddance, Coach K you sore loser!!
I actually thought Coach K showed a lot of class in that situation. The NC team took quite awhile to celebrate the W on the court before even thinking about the handshake line but K waited for them along with just one of his players (Moore). Would it have been nice for the others to wait as well? Yes, but I am not putting that squarely on K. UNC could have been more aware of the situation as well.
 
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richthedentist

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1. Why weren’t illegal screens called? Every possession Bacot screened illegally
2. Love makes the big 3 and his defender went under the screen.
3. Game is definitely morphing to NBA
Agreed 100% about the illegal screens by Bacot he got called for one early and every screen he set up top he was never set but Duke also they were both setting the screen and sticking out their shoulder or hips so blatant
The other thing with the refs is they just don’t call travel anymore I guess they never look at the guys feet!!
 
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NY AGENTMAN

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This was Carolina‘s championship!!! They have bragging rights over Duke for a long time to come.
 

Randal7

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Huh? I'm just happy that K lost


That being said that was tremendous basketball
Incredible game.
Agreed 100% about the illegal screens by Bacot he got called for one early and every screen he set up top he was never set but Duke also they were both setting the screen and sticking out their shoulder or hips so blatant
The other thing with the refs is they just don’t call travel anymore I guess they never look at the guys feet!!
agree. A lot of travels in the 2nd half but I’m happy they let the guys play. You either call it tight or you don’t call it at all. The refs stayed largely out of the game which is what made it great
 

Randal7

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1. Why weren’t illegal screens called? Every possession Bacot screened illegally
2. Love makes the big 3 and his defender went under the screen.
3. Game is definitely morphing to NBA
Agree on 3 very strongly. Game looked like an nba one
 

Randal7

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That's why I didn't like it or think it looked like team basketball.

Maybe the guys were connected. I didn't see it. I saw Some guys taking plays off after misses...
I thought both teams played pretty good team ball; they were swinging it a lot to open guys on the wing. The one gripe I’ve got is when they’ve get an offensive rebound they’d kick it back out for a 3 every time
 

Rutgers25

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The game moved a long time ago to favor one on one play. When you can carry, hesitation dribble, set illegal ball screens, etc. there is no reason to run a motion offense. In the NBA especially, you can’t breathe on the ball handler without picking up a foul. Just give your ball handler/shot maker a ball screen and let him go to work. If he draws a defender, then kick the ball out. Maybe swing it again and shoot the open 3.

NBA is so uninteresting because nothing in the first 3 quarters matters. A 10pt lead is nothing. Can evaporate in a second. Games are played in the 110s and 120s. Scoring 130 in a regulation game is nothing unusual. So if I’m sitting watching a game in the first or 2nd quarter, the momentum from a 10-0 run or something is a yawner.

Time to tilt the game back and get average scoring back to high 90s.
 

bitnez

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Funny how we have fans complaining we don’t run an “offense” and yet we just saw a final four game with offense that looked a lot like what we do.
 

Randal7

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Funny how we have fans complaining we don’t run an “offense” and yet we just saw a final four game with offense that looked a lot like what we do.
Neither team went 5+ minutes without a basket and that happens in 1/3 of our games. So that’s a false equivalency.
 

rob kight

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Agreed 100% about the illegal screens by Bacot he got called for one early and every screen he set up top he was never set but Duke also they were both setting the screen and sticking out their shoulder or hips so blatant
The other thing with the refs is they just don’t call travel anymore I guess they never look at the guys feet!!
They do get called when Ru is playing.
 
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