Noooooobody, beats a Cannon deal, except

coach66

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3 year investigation may be gaining a

Little traction. Ole Miss seems to be going overboard to make sure no one working
for the University had knowledge. Good luck with that.
 

thatsbaseball

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I don`t know why this analogy came to mind but Al Capone had many people killed and generally broke every law in the land and went to jail for tax evasion of all things. OM has broken (very skillfully I will say) half the recruiting rules in the NCAA infraction book and get busted for a player being loaned a car too long. Funny how when the long arm of the law comes after you hard enough....they will normally find something.
 
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Lawdawg.sixpack

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"Freeze, when contacted by ESPN.com, said he was not in a position to comment but maintained his stance from two years ago that he and his coaches had done everything the right way in their recruiting efforts."

Well of course HE AND HIS COACHES didn't do it....
 

coach66

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Yea, all the University responses seem

Scripted. Lawyers running the show.
 

coach66

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The rumor I heard which may be false is

This came out during Tunsils interview with NCCA. They asked
him about the car he was driving and he said it was a loaner. Apparently
he had been driving it for an extended period like (weeks). They asked
him what was wrong with his car, answer, "cracked windshield".
 

Shmuley

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I'm thoroughly enjoying your inability to contain your excitement. Proceed.
 

ShrubDog

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Extended test drives in Oxford seems to be normal. Driving a yellow car for this long is not normal.
 

Strike.sixpack

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Popcorn...

Night shift clocking in soon...

Yeah they are upset that it's over a "few days" extra rental. Their rumor is Tunsil actually told this on himself when questioned about the car and the repairs he was having done. A cracked windshield according to some. Rumors rumors rumors. From 2 months to 8 months. All I can think of is 4 tires that the parent came back and paid for got us in more trouble, if the story is true.
 

dawgatUSM

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Not only that but Will Redmond lost a year and a half of a promising career for buying a USED CAR at a discount! I just have no sympathy for these people.
 

jb1020

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Who "loaned" him the gold Rolex he was sporting against UTM?

You know some jeweler wants to get some pub out of this
 

Snog

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Isn't there a new NCAA rule that if violations occur, it falls on the head coach whether or not he was personally involved?

First I've heard of that. IF that is the case, half the DI coaches in football and basketball would have a show cause penalty against them.
 

ronpolk

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My prediction is he will be given a somewhere in the neighborhood of 6 games maybe more and unless OM is in the playoff picture, I don't think he plays.

At this point he has to start thinking about his future and it's worth risking an injury and hurting his draft stock for a couple meaningless games. If OM is undefeated when he's reinstated, I think that is the only way he plays.
 

Chesusdog

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Still waiting for Bjork to start challenging NCAA investigators to a no holds barred cage match.
 

Crazy Cotton

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that top 5 class got them a little too much attention. People need to be careful what they wish for.
 
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Had no idea Michael Jo Cannon was a former Ole Miss football coach

that also explains a lot....he knows how it works.....

I can assure you when I by a new SUV in 2016, I won't forget how involved he is with UM corporate sponsorships, former coach, and loaning cars....I could understand if he was a small town oxford dealer....but he's all over....doubt ill ever buy a car from Cannon
 

thatsbaseball

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It would still be interesting to know who his mother is employed by in Oxford and what her compensation is.
 

missouridawg

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A top 5 pick LT missing the most important game of the season

I still don't think anything happens. Nothing beyond a good scolding or some corner time anyway.

is something.

But, hopefully the NCAA has a backbone and continues on with providing some institutional punishment as well.
 

Strike.sixpack

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After reading that, it's ********. PC plausible deniability for the NCAA and its coaches against stone throwers.

Disagree. It now eliminates a coaches plausible deniability and turning a blind eye of things happening. If a head coach let's it be known that he wants the "friends of the program" to cool down, it will happen. The "I didn't know" defense doesn't hold, your guilty until you are proven innocent. Why do you think head coaches haven't been popped for pay for play in years? I didn't know defense is now gone. And it's not like they are going to pop a coach on one simple deal. But for example say you have had 12 or so players with rental cars from one place for long stretches, the you don't know what's happening defense won't hold. A reasonable person knows something is wrong and it IS the head coaches job to educate about impermissible benefits, agents, etc. and keep kids eligible. Just like those recruiting parties, that they have become so well known that, and I hope this never happens, if a high school aged kid is ever seriously busted, injuried, or forbid worse, that would be a major issue and for the head coach. You had better know what is going on and who they are with. But I think the rule is only dealing with the "I don't know" defense of people considered working under the head coach. Not just coaches but any assistant with the program or atheletic department that works for or closely with that program. I may be a little off on that though.
 
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RebelBruiser

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that top 5 class got them a little too much attention. People need to be careful what they wish for.
Got another one on the way this year more than likely too, so the NCAA better get used to it, or just go ahead and set up shop in Oxford hoping to find something.

Just my opinion, but I think he ends up somewhere between 4 and 6 games on the suspension, and none of it comes back on the school or coaches. That's been the precedent set by cases like AJ Green's, Todd Gurley's, etc.

At Alabama, they had players getting free suits and selling autographs, and all they had to do was disassociate a booster. The idea that this will somehow come back on Freeze or the program is wishful thinking in my opinion.

I say that with the caveat that you never know with the NCAA, but I don't see this going any further than whatever Tunsil's suspension ends up being. They've spent 3 years trying to find something on this guy, and at the end of all that, the only thing they come up with is a loaner car that Tunsil was using for a few months recently, and the only reason they got that was because Tunsil didn't know it was an issue, and he told them.

Keep in mind, this isn't the same NCAA of the 80s and 90s either. Their power is significantly less, so going back any further than the last 5-8 years to look for comparisons isn't relevant.
 
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patdog

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Just a week ago, you were convinced the NCAA was going to be bullied into issuing a quick ruling to get him back on the field by the Bama game because they were terrified of a lawsuit. It'll be interesting to see how well that top-5 class holds together until signing day with the NCAA being so active in Oxford this fall.
 
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