Nobody asking the right questions about the fight

[Ranchdawg]

In all my years of watching college football I have never seen a team gang up like Tulsa did and approach our team and coaches. Not in regular season games or bowl games. Why did Tulsa force a confrontation after the game? Usually, the players mingle and the coaches head to the locker room. The head coaches were over where the trophy was being presented. Why was the Tulsa staff arguing with the State staff at midfield? I believe the entire incident was sparked by sour grapes with the Tulsa staff. I understand this was the third fight their staff had sparked this year and some of their fans were wanting a staff member fired for being the instigator.

 

[Cooterpoot]

Better question is why didn't the officials get control early in the game after all the dirty crap and jawing. Should never been allowed to shake hands and should've been separated. I blame the officiating.

 

[thatsbaseball]

I'll tell you why. They were sorry assed B1G officials who didn't give a crap about either school and were there just to collect a pay check. Who knows with the virus and all they may not have wanted to be there at all. Either way they didn't give a **** and were clearly derelict in their duties.

 

[MStateU]

The right question would be has anybody laid Yakety Sax over the video yet and why hasn’t it been posted?

 

[gwadSIG]

Better question is why didn't the officials get control early in the game after all the dirty crap and jawing. Should never been allowed to shake hands and should've been separated. I blame the officiating.

Cause one of them was participating in it to a degree. Did you see when the woman flagged Arnett? She got all emotional and was all in her power lol

 

[Ralph Cramden]

I think its pathetic that Leach is being lambasted over it. We should not have came out in skins and started that pregame ****. They played dirty all game. Their coach was very aggressive. Erroll was stirring it up. But I think they deserve most of the blame. Kneeling our guys every other play. Refs should have seen that and threw a flag. They were asking for it in my opinion and 17 Kirk Herbstreit

 

[johnson86-1]

I think its pathetic that Leach is being lambasted over it. We should not have came out in skins and started that pregame ****. They played dirty all game. Their coach was very aggressive. Erroll was stirring it up. But I think they deserve most of the blame. Kneeling our guys every other play. Refs should have seen that and threw a flag. They were asking for it in my opinion and 17 Kirk Herbstreit

Did we start the pregame ****? Hasn’t heard that. Kind of odd we start **** the first time all year against 17in Tulsa. I doubt more than 5 guys on our team knew who the 17 they were before we got them as a bowl opponent.

 

[tenureplan]

Wrong. BIG HATES SEC. There was a bias the whole game. We had more penalty yards while playing clean against the most penaltalized team in college football. We just didn't give them many opportunities to throw the flag, but they definitely kept in their pocket against us. Take the series where we should have had a free play and then Williams got mauled over the middle. That was points. Game was closer than it should have been

 

[Russ Wheeler]

After a night to sleep on it, I like the edge. I'm glad Leach defended the players. We're MSU, we need that, and no talking heads are every going to give us the benefit of the doubt anyway. 17 'em all.

We did enough woke stuff this summer to get the good feels. Time to start pissing people off again.

 

[thatsbaseball]

I'll have to agree. I just know I've never seen a more poorly handled game from the aspect of officials not handling the "extracurricular" ******** AFTER EVERY DAMN PLAY. It was ridiculous to let it go on and took away from the game itself. IMO

 

[ArcherSPS]

We didn’t start the pregame stuff they came from their side and circled our guys that were warming up.

 

[thatsbaseball]

LOL I'm starting to get a feel for this "Pirate" stuff. Aaaargh

 

[bully12]

Better question is why didn't the officials get control early in the game after all the dirty crap and jawing. Should never been allowed to shake hands and should've been separated. I blame the officiating.

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[jakldawg]

Tulsa did the same mouthy bravado BS routine against Cincy in the AAC championship.
Plus, their roster is nothing but Texans and Okies, and we all know that Texans do NOTHING but yap incessantly all about how great they are at everything, and Okies are just Texans without the irony.
Also: since these are B1G refs they actually participated in what... 4? 5? games this "season"?

 

[thatsbaseball]

This from a Cincy fan on a Cincy board

Watched the entire game. Tulsa was constantly talking trash, late hits, taking cheap shots. Think Tulsa tried to use same tactics vs UC. They carried that over to the bowl game. Tulsa now has a resemblance of a dirty team putting a target on there backs for sure.

 

[TNT.sixpack]

I think its pathetic that Leach is being lambasted over it. We should not have came out in skins and started that pregame ****. They played dirty all game. Their coach was very aggressive. Erroll was stirring it up. But I think they deserve most of the blame. Kneeling our guys every other play. Refs should have seen that and threw a flag. They were asking for it in my opinion and 17 Kirk Herbstreit

This is correct. I'm not sure the number or position, but Tulsa had a safety/linebacker -white kid who had tattoo of roman numerals on his forearm - same kid who tossed the arm warmer. I watched him also make a tackle of Austin Williams and CLEARLY knee him in the back as he was getting up, directly in front of a ref. No flag either time. Ridiculous. The tv announcers also made several references to the fact they surprised the refs were "letting them play" with a lot of ******** contact late in the game. Other than Heath's actions at the very end, I'm quite pleased that our guys decided to answer the call at the end of the game. HailState

 

[maroonmadman]

Watched the entire game. Tulsa was constantly talking trash, late hits, taking cheap shots. Think Tulsa tried to use same tactics vs UC. They carried that over to the bowl game. Tulsa now has a resemblance of a dirty team putting a target on there backs for sure.

I went tp the Tulsa board just to see their side. A lot of their posters are saying that this attitude has been going on all season at Tulsa. That is on Tulsa's coaching staff.

If I had been a Ref at that game, after the pre-game warm ups, in which there was some verbage and smack talk, I would have addressed each team and basically read them the riot act. The fact that the Refs didn't is on them.

If I were coach Leach I would have had a talk with my team and informed them to NOT give in to the trash talk lest we get a penalty that cost us the game. Don't know if Leach did or not but I will say he probably should have.

You can spread around a lot of blame for this incident and not be wrong.

No matter how you feel it is still a bad look for us. Expect some repercussions.

 

[thatsbaseball]

"Expect some repercussions." I was born and raised a Mississippian and expect some repercussions regardless of what we think, say or do. It comes with the territory and a few more ain't gonna hurt.