Saw this earlier this morning. I look forward to following this.
Just passing along here on a Sunday morning.
Just passing along here on a Sunday morning.
*** Noah's Ark
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More proof of what I already know. Hope you and the family are doing well!
I remember watching a show about this formation when I was a kid 35 years ago.
You would think that modern carbon dating, they would be able to clarify
You would think that modern carbon dating, they would be able to clarify
Thanks @Cris_Ard
This song will be stuck in my head all day.
Guess I’ll have to indulge in a Guinness or Harp while watching the Tigers today.
Its long been believed that it was Ararat, so the real question to me is why it took so long to just dig and find out what we can.
I’m a Christian but Noah’s ark is a myth. According to the story, about 4000 years ago, God told Noah there was going to be a flood. Noah built an arc and put a breeding pair of every animal on it. Noah and his family survived and no one else in the world survived the flood. Without getting into the improbabilities of who came to North America and captured wolverines or South America and captured jaguars, how did native Americans survive this world wide flood. There may have been a local flood, but not the one described in the Bible.
They will also ignore truth if it threatens their world view. Not saying this is definitely the ark but my statement stands.
God's confusion of languages at the Tower of Babel and the ensuing dispersal of the people groups caused people to spread World wide.
No, it’s certainly not a myth. Actually, all of the very same geological and archeological evidence that evolutionists claim helps prove their fairy tale supports a sudden, catastrophic, worldwide flood. The Bible is God’s Word, and no other single source comes close to providing the answers to all of life’s big questions like the Bible does.
Yeah, ok. Tell me what you think that you know about geology and I’ll hang up & listen.
We’ll agree to disagree and leave it respectful.
I don’t agree but yes that’s a question I will ask when I meet Him.
And were there more shooters in Dallas that day.
I am teaching my son to embrace science and faith. Both are incredibly important and have a place in our society.
Both have some pretty fascinating lessons to teach if we are just willing to listen.
Both have some pretty fascinating lessons to teach if we are just willing to listen.
I’m not getting into scientific debates on a message board. I’ll simply say that believing in the Biblical flood takes faith but there is also plenty of evidence. The problem is that evolutionists don’t admit that their position also takes just as much if not more faith. To claim the flood is a fairy tale and then act as if evolution is scientific fact is comically hypocritical.
You know that Thomas Jefferson cut out all the parts of the Bible he couldn't understand or rejected.
How many cut up pages in your Bible?
I clicked this thread title knowing this would happen. Gotta love the Internet.Y’all mofo’s will argue about anything.
We agree more than you may think. Neither side has the “complete picture”.
I don’t doubt the greatness of the Bible as a religious document. Where I have issues, especially with the Old Testament, is that I find no discussion of the Stenographer who accurately & correctly recorded all of these events so that I can verify the accuracy of some of the statements. You know, like the entire planet flooding, and everything coming back in about 4,000 years.
I can’t get three reasonably educated professionals to recall what they had for lunch two weeks ago on a Friday, but I’m supposed to believe, with strict interpretation, that the Old Testament is the exact word of God? I’m sorry, that’s a bridge too far. I just don’t have that much faith in man’s ability to accurately recall events.
II’m glad Turkey finally allowed them to excavate the site
Don't know about an actually ark, definitely not 2 of each animal, but it's pretty much confirmed that there was a massive global flood. Archeological evidence backs it up. Historic records from multiple civilizations
Yep some believe there is no God, the earth is flat, and countries pilots, astronauts, and their government has kept it the biggest secret of all time
It’s OK to have these questions, and even though we don’t have the answer to every single thing throughout history, we have all the answers we need.
Here’s my thought about this topic… I know of some things that get misapplied or taken out of context within New Testament references surrounding the word “world”. I strongly suspect the same has occurred here, and I would advise that the flood did not have to cover the entire world. In the New Testament, the word “world” could be translated into 2+ ways, but time has simplified it into one word. There was the oikoumene used to refer to the inhabited earth or the Roman Empire. Think local. Then there’s the word kosmos that refers to the world, or universe.
The Old Testament and ancient Hebrew writings do it as well, with interchangeable meanings for the word “earth”, a word that could be either localized or across the whole Earth. BibleHub is a great research tool for meanings and origins and translations, and here’s an example of the bolded word for earth/ land being used even for the local populated area:
Genesis 7:10
HEB: הָי֖וּ עַל־ הָאָֽרֶץ׃
NAS: of the flood came upon the earth.
KJV: of the flood were upon the earth.
INT: came upon the earth
Genesis 7:12
HEB: הַגֶּ֖שֶׁם עַל־ הָאָ֑רֶץ אַרְבָּעִ֣ים י֔וֹם
NAS: fell upon the earth for forty
KJV: And the rain was upon the earth forty
INT: the rain upon the earth forty days
Genesis 34:30
HEB: לְהַבְאִישֵׁ֙נִי֙ בְּיֹשֵׁ֣ב הָאָ֔רֶץ בַּֽכְּנַעֲנִ֖י וּבַפְּרִזִּ֑י
NAS: among the inhabitants of the land,among the Canaanites
KJV: among the inhabitants of the land,among the Canaanites
So…… don’t let thousands of years of changing languages, translations, and interpretations - especially one part of the story - lead you to doubt in the big picture story!
That's my mistake. I saw something interesting here on a Sunday morning I felt plenty of others would find interesting. Was not intended to be chum in the water. Not at all.
Will move this to the off-topics board.
My apologies to all.
1000%. One reigns supreme and the other wants to.
Do we rate and achieve in merit based judgment or try to pick winners and losers like DEI?
I have utmost respect for the foundational teachings and use them everyday. I find most devout Republicans and Democrats that claim to be Christian violate the 9th commandment EVERYDAY bearing false witness.
Folks….. focus on humanity and its conservation to (co)exist. Utilize the humanity value of great teachings.
"If you destroyed every holy book, and waited a thousand years, they wouldn't all come back and be exactly the same. If you destroyed every bit of science we have, and waited a thousand years, it would come back exactly the same."
Interestingly there are over 200 flood accounts from cultures on several continents. Asians, Native Americans, etc.
Funny, we never talked winners and losers in DEI. But we did in History class and in Sunday School.
Winners and Losers are selected via DEI to enter the gates.
Honest History lets the reader determine who is the winner and loser.
Sunday School encourages the students to identify the winners and losers by how the story is told.
Can you really have a concept of the whole global when the known world to you is basically about 500 square miles.
A local flood would cover the known world with it actually covering the world. Scientifically, how would a global flood even happen?
I'm not gonna do it justice so here's a couple videos. Basically there's geographic evidence across the continents that support the idea of massive flooding. Which is also backed up by historical/religious texts in almost every major civilization. Whether you're religious or not, it's really interesting stuff
The water has always been here, but during an ice age, its not in its liquid form. When ice melts, it has to go somewhere. If it melts really fast, that's a ton of water at once. That extra water evaporates and you get a ton of rain for a long period of time until all that water settles in lakes and makes it's way to the ocean.
Some scientists/historians think an asteroid impact could've set the whole thing off